MissMonaro

Gosh they are growing so fast. I like Polly and Piglet. Actually they are all rather cute. :rolleyes:

Misty Polly Piglet Gorgeous babies and lovely to watch them grow. Laughed at the one trying to get out of the whelping box. I remember one morning being woken up by a lab puppy licking my toes (I sleep on a mattress next to my whelping box). Some babies are just so mischievious.

OMG arent they just the cutest.

they are gorgeous

awwwww i love those blue ones :p I'll have those ones thanks. :wink:

OMG they are sooooo cute CONGRATULATIONS

I've just bought a bag each of the Great Barko and the Uncle Albers to try. I've mixed it in with half a bag of Bonnie working dog to start. Most of the labs just hoovered it up without a second thought. Although one actually flat out refused to eat it. Well he did try it then spat it on the ground. (so there ya go....not all labradors eat everything). So he is back on the Bonnie. Another will pick through it....very very slowly....and then messes around with the last mouthful or so. So I will put her back to the Bonnie also. It was worth a shot to try it.....and I'll have to finish the bags now....but not for us.

The main thing I use is a tube of stuff that I got from the vets. Works a treat. I have used listerine as well. I have a thing of iodine here though, so might give that a try as well next time one pops up.

Yes HD can occur in dogs from well scored parents. Sometimes a gene that is carried recessively down the lines...meets another recessive gene and the problem appears. However, I would believe that there is a lesser chance of getting a pup with HD from well scored parents...not impossible though.

I've just had a bitch do an injury to herself. Well its been about 4 weeks now....and she didnt do it - I suspect in play time one of the others grabbed her leg and she has twisted whilst foot was in mouth. She actually has a fractured toe and ligament / tendon damage in hock. First vet wanted to operate.....2nd opinion was "see a specialist"......so we went and saw an orthopedic specialist and he has told us to "wait and see" at this stage. Weight is going to be an issue very shortly.....even now......cos she is 6 weeks pregnant. Her leg and foot is bandaged and helps to stabilise it. She is crated at night and in a small run during the day We have had the leg bandaged and the vet said that it was good......but not great. So still waiting. If surgery has to be done, then it wont be until after the babies as it is risky to do it now. She gets around okay and sometimes she does hop. She pulled the bandage off last week (as I am pretty sure it is irritating her by the lack of hair and rub marks on her leg). But she may never be able to go back and play with the other dogs, well esp the leg grabbers thats for sure.

Not compulsory in Qld.

could also be the start of a hot spots....labs are prone to them.

Cockerlover I would love to hear that her heart murmur gets better like Charlies has. The people were so lovely and I knew she would have a good home, and I am grateful for them taking her on and giving her at least a chance. The pregnancy was just terrible. My bitch had discharge....then a week before the pups were due, the vets picked up a troubled heart rate and wanted to go in. It was a hard call and I said wait....a week early might be disastrous. Next morning we decided to go in and get them. One pup was covered in gunk apparently...I'm assuming it was her, as she was sickly the first few days...and ended up being slightly flat chested too. (there is another topic on here on that) Long story...but yeh....it sure was a litter where we got a lot of learning experience from.

Same thing happened to me. Had a deposit on a pup - but at 6 weeks check up was found to have a grade 4 heart murmur. I sadly told the ppl that I was sorry but her prognosis was not good and I could not sell her to them. They had their heart set on her and were in love. I told them that we did not know if she had 6 days/weeks/months/years to live. We dont know without further testing and realistically should be PTS. However they still wanted her and like you said....wanted to give her the best life she could have for the small time that she may be here. So I gave her away to them. They did take her to a specialist and he said he would see them again when she was 2. So he must of thought she would live that long. They also sent me copies of the reports as well for my records.

My obedience club you have to show up to date vaccination certificates.

A few people had also told me the same thing about the froggy thing - that it is a sign of great hips. So I watched my dogs and I have 2 that do it regularly - one just came back with hip score of 3:4. and the other has always done it and still does and she has crap hips.

With the macadamia nuts AFAIK it is actually the outer husks and hard shells are what they shouldnt eat. We have a huge tree in our backyard and my oldest lab loves to sit and crack them open. Or they wait under it for the cockatoos to drop them. I did enquire with my vet over it - who also informed me that his dog also eats them. Did say though that the shells can cause problems coming out the other end.

Dont know too much about the breed......but have to say he looks absolutely gorgeous !! Its amazing how quick they grow from a little puppy and those stacked pictures are great too. :rolleyes:

Just be careful that the vet isnt just "pushing" for an operation un-necessarily. I have rehomed a few bitches that have not scored well enough in the elbows for me to use in my breeding program (shame - cos some were nice girls)...however...all have been desexed and rehomed to pet homes - (all new owners are aware of why). There are just a few things that the new owners have to be aware of....eg. no overfeeding (do NOT let them get fat), no excessive exercise...normal pet exercise is fine, but no marathon running etc. Unfortunately in the case of one of my bitches - she came from parents that were both 0's in elbows and grandparents were good etc. She never limped as a youngster. But sadly it appears that the problem stemmed from the actual breeding of dogs together back further in the lines....so eventually when the 2 came together, the gene appeared with this mating. Plus her litter mate was diagnosed with OCD, so another factor to take into consideration. However I will say that she now lives with a family with 3 children - that live on the waterfront. They adore her and it worked out well. I will say that there are sadly breeders out there that do breed with unsound elbow scores. I know of a 3:3 stud dog, and another with a 2:2 as well. I wouldnt be playing around with that, no matter how "good" the dog was. That is just opening yourself up for problems. Your breeder has done the right thing by breeding with low scoring elbows, but unfortunately, sometimes things do happen and we cant always predict what genes will come through or even how the puppy will be raised when it leaves our care. We can just do the best we can and educate the new owners as much as possible. I know of dogs with HD that have never had hip replacements etc ......one I know that was diagnosed with HD at 10 months of age uses glucosamine in the diet and she does have catrophin injections as well......but the dog just turned 10 years of age. This same dog has PRA and was going blind at around 4 years of age. So its not always a death sentence or an expensive vet trip. I would get an x-ray done when he is 12 months old and have it scored by Dr Wyburn in WA...or if she is still concerned, as Blacklab said I would be actually seeing a "specialist" in this area.

Ours get fed twice a day....and the same amount at each fed. The only time they are not fed is if we are going to a show...then the show dogs dont get the morning feed. If we go to obedience or show training, they dont get fed until we return.

Geoff Cartmill Cartmills Vet Surgery Deception Bay Road Deception Bay Ph 32047011

I've had "cold tail" here once with one of my labs. I absolutely freaked out, thinking her tail was broken. Best description I could give was it reminded me of a lambs tail.....it stuck out about 10 cm like normal and then the end just hung there, dangling straight down to the ground. I took her to the vets convinced it was broken.....but after a few days all was back to normal. Phew !!

I know of a lab that has a 41 hip score and a 0/0 elbow score.......she is now 6 years old and does not take anything.....but this has not caused her elbows to bow out. Have seen a bull terrier with one bowed front leg and was told it was due to a calcium deficiency as a pup. Anyway I hope you can get some answers....and sorry I can't offer any advice.

I wouldnt think so. The question is probably just there "in case" you are. The lab club of Qld has plenty of non breeder members. ;)

A guy I know through work bought 2 purebred rotties...litter sisters....for mega bucks. Well one of them has not long ago had a hip done...and it cost him close to $10 K for it. :D Saw the girls today...and her hair has all grown back....but she walks with a limp and doesnt seem to bare any weight on the foot. I didnt get to speak to him about her....but yeh ....thats a lot of money.