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Natsu chan

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  1. I don't see that it would cause a problem. There's alot of obedience titled dogs with tracking titles too. The dog will learn that the harness means tracking, and the check chain or collar means obedience. I played with my girl with tracking work as neither of us are sound enough to track towards titles and I found it helped with training seek back and scent work. We're still working on it of course as she's only gained her CCD recently, but she understands the difference perfectly well.
  2. Great work you two! Ziggy will be out there giving us all a run for a our money soon by the sound of things, it's great he's retrieving now. A good happy retrieve is a real watershed and opens the way to all sorts of fun stuff. Kavik that's fantastic! Which one of your crew pulled that off? Capanash I was the small person standing with the lady with the brown poodle. You might not have noticed Koori as she was laying on my feet. Frey is just gorgeous even dripping wet.
  3. Hmm you know I might even have spoken to you Capanash. Freya's not a pretty white standard by any chance is she? It was amazing how many dogs managed to get qualifying scores really wasn't nice for them at all. Your girl was very good to stay in all that. Not made up my mind about Knox yet, I'm cat sitting that weekend too which Koori won't like one bit. Not like a 17 year old two toothed cat is any great competition or anything. So a nice stress free trial is looking tempting.
  4. Thanks you two. It's nice to have finally titled her after so long out of the ring. This was at Southern LP. LOL Rubystar she got an 82. She's due for a visits to the chiro and it shows. Oh and did I mention Noah turned up in his ark during the stays, along with some celestial rumbling? She spent half the drop stay wiping the rain off her whiskers in the most unimpressed fashion the poor love. Now I have to work out what to do about Knox in a fortnight as we're entered for that too.
  5. I've finally got a brag too all be it a little one. Koori got her CCD title today. Not the best score in the world but the weather was nasty so I'm satisfied.
  6. Well done Rubystar! Oh and Ness and Ptolomy too. Don't worry too much 85 is a comfortable pass, nothing to think poorly of. The heel work will improve. New places and nervous handlers always impact on the dogs heel work so don't worry. 3rd is fabulous well done! And truely aren't you tickled pink? I know I would be that first pass is always lovely.
  7. I have the same problem. I haven't been able to log in for about 12 months either. Not mind you that I need to but still. March 2010 perhaps, then again maybe that's a bit mean how about by Christmas. Be nice to be officially financial again won't it!
  8. It's probably a bit early for the entry forms to be available yet but they are available through each states royal agricultural society website or office. I love Adelaide show..I'd love to compete over there but it's too tricky to organise at this point. http://www.adelaideshowground.com.au/showg...ns-exhibits.jsp http://www.royalshow.com.au/index.asp
  9. Actually I think the rule for having a collar on when trialling is due to safety more than anything. If a dog gets a fright or for some reason does a bolt as I have seen happen (very wet day, handler slipped fell almost on top of the dog who panicked and bolted) then it's much harder to grab the dog if it's collarless. It doesn't happen often but it does happen and especially given the proximity to roads at some venues there is always a chance the dog could get on to the road at least if they have a collar on there's something to get hold of if this happens. There's also the issue of dogs breaking out of stays especially out of sight stays where a judge or steward may need to hang on to a dog. Never mind the problems that might occur if say a dog fight broke out during the stays and the dogs where all nude. While none of those things might happen they could, better to have something way to control a dog if need be than none. Also you don't have to use a check and I as do others often train our dogs nude.
  10. Yes my fault, I'm hopless at wording things at the best of times. I can't say I was overly happy though, and I did want to strangle a certain doggy at the time but thats the way it goes.
  11. To be fair Rubystar most of the judges are very good. That's the only time I have ever had an issue. I don't know if the judge just didn't see (it was raining hard enough to float the ark at the time and the judge and steward were at the other end of the line) or what. Obviously he saw Koori come to me but I'm not sure he realised why she'd broken until the other dog came after her. In the drops he didn't get a chance to do anything, I just went back to my dog. The judge was apologetic about it after the stays but since none of us were sitting on qualifying scores I guess he saw no point in a resit. The judge has the right to use their discretion and most I find will give the benefit of the doubt when one dog gets up and interferes with another. To be honest I don't think I handled it well. It was my first time in the ring after a 17 year break and I'd forgotten how to deal with things like that. Really though I can't complain there are dogs who will break stays and go walk about and the best of them will at some point. It's just part and parcel of the game. Ptolomy I tried you sitting down stay and all I got was a very bored collie yawning at me. Poor girl she already thinks I'm nuts, I do take novels with me down to the park when we practice long stays so she's use to it.
  12. I've actually had this happen. At our first trial Koori had the misfortune to do her stays next to a very dominant dog who would not stay. He latched on to her in both stays. In hindsight I should have excused myself after the first stay, but I did not. In the sit the dog got up very quick and latched on to Koori humping her, she stayed for a bit and I looked at the judge not sure what to do but the judge said nothing and as she broke I called her to me and pushed the other dog who pursed her away. The other dog repeated this in the drops, only this time I started back to her straight away and gave her a singles to come and got between both dogs. The other dog then proceeded on to the next dog in the line to repeat the process! The judge didn't offer a resit, but another handler let me do a couple of on lead stays outside the ring with her. I don't think personally that Koori's stays had been affected really as she'd had dogs jump all over her before during stays. She's a very submissive dog though and she wasn't happy. These days if that happened like Ness I'd be going to my dog regardless and if the other dog didn't leave for the next stay I would qualifying score or not.
  13. Quickasyoucan have you tried just popping your hand under his tummy or on his patella to keep him standing? You don't push you just hold your hand there gently saying stand and reward. If luring isn't working you might need to do that until the penny drops as he hasn't got the faintest idea what you want by the sound of it. I personally always teach it that way as then there's no chance of them getting it wrong. Great work Rubystar, hang in there you'll get there in the end.
  14. My lazy darling just starts to doze off if there's no excitement. She actually yawns and puts her head out for a nap in the long drop stays. Depends on how busy they are I think the old girl would eye ball me if there was nothing going on and kneed with her front feet. Koori just sits there and looks around yawning occasionally. Quickasyoucan does Jake understand stand as a position? Will he stand from a sit or a drop on command? Sometimes a dog will take us looking at them as precursor to a correction and since most of us start by teaching sit and reinforcing it strongly sit becomes a default response if they thing they've done the wrong thing. Sometimes all it takes is saying stand gently to let them know what you want.
  15. I used it on my old girl for a year or so it worked very well for her. Better than the NSAIDs she was on at the time, with the added advantage that she liked the taste of the oil and would slurp it down if given the chance.
  16. Mines pretty good with the sit stays (of course now I've said that we'll have all sorts of problems with them :rolleyes: ) it's the drops she breaks if she's going to but she's fairly good really. Mine will break a stay if she's getting very hot or stressed or if the stupid human lets her get over excited while we're waiting to going in. I just go and do another one outside the ring if she breaks. Fixing problems in stays really depends on why it happened. You work out why then you come up with a plan to fix it. If it's due to being hot and tired then I will do training and exercise then practise a stay at the end of all that. I vary the time too, longer isn't always better some dogs get wise that you're going to be a while and will drop knowing they can fit in a little rest until you can get back to reposition them. I've seen the odd cheeky devil who'd drop about half way in then pop back up on the return. All with a big "see I'm sitting" grin. As for not doing stays I will generally do them regardless. She's reasonably reliable and well proofed. I've practised stays with her in the park with our friends dogs tearing around the place playing and retrieving all around her and yep Ptolomy I've had people sit or stand their dogs either sit of mine while practising while she's in a different position. I analyse my grooming while I'm doing stays. Sad but true.
  17. Breathe, it's meant to be fun remember! Seriously though tension affects your handling and makes sensitive dogs anxious. You aren't playing for sheep stations remember and while qualifying scores are nice it's more important to improve each time out and for both of you to enjoy yourselves.
  18. Fluffypaws, collies do tend to have short attention spans and they get called lazy when in fact they get bored quite quickly. You are much better off doing short bursts with your adorable boy than doing long stints. LMAO yep that whole "seriously?" bit is classic collie. They're very good at obedience but they get bored with too much repetition. I trial mine and I don't go to a club anymore in part for that reason. Clubs are really good though especially when you're starting out and for distraction work. Also most instructors are fairly understanding and he is only a baby, so I can't see why you can't have little breaks. Short, sweet and enthusiastic works with our collies. He's lovely, good luck with him and have fun.
  19. LOL oh dear wasn't very clear was I. Of course you can't do it in the ring but you can take one light bouncing step into heel often that's enough. The Judge may giggle but most don't mind. You just start out like that to get the dog thinking "oh right this is the fun bit" then you slowly tapper it off until it's the reward at the end of the heel pattern. It does require a bit of time and patience but it works. I trial my girl, and she likes trials even with me! I'm the same too with nerves and inhibitions, I find I'm much better if I just focus on it being for fun. As soon as I get serious and think right I want a qualifying score that's it, everything goes to pot. Qualifying scores, titles, ribbons none of it matters if you're having fun and the dog is then they'll come in due course provided you put the work in at home. So there's no point thinking about it. Things will go wrong, that's normal if you going in thinking of it as a chance to see what you need to improve on rather than a competitive event that might help your nerves. Remember the judges don't bite, they want you to do well too and they know all too well about the ups and downs of trialling.
  20. That's great Kavik! There's a heeling game I use to play with my boy, still do with the current girl all be it a modified version as she's a bit of a goose. Lots of turns and changes of pace and praise, make it a game to get him to keep up and when he's in the right spot make a massive fuss of him. My boy loved it, when you said heel his whole face would light up. My girl gets an excited 'excellent clever girl' when she's going well and a calmer 'good girl' when she's doing things basically right but not perfectly. If you excite him then say heel and trot off bouncing a bit and perhaps clapping your hands you'll get his attention. When he's in the right place up the ante and tell him how clever he is. Be warned though it's exhausting. Don't worry about what other people think just get out there and have some fun with your boy.
  21. This is possibly a silly question but have you tried getting all excited and going silly when he gets things right? I had a dog like yours not lazy at all, but very sensitive, he fell to pieces when I got nervous too and I'm very nervy so it was definitely interesting. He wasn't food or toy motivated either but if I was happy he was happy. He'd work really well for a lot of cuddles and excited praise, but food ha he wasn't really interested it was almost as if he accepted it out of manners not because he wanted it.
  22. I've got a solid jump. The wings are just three pieces of wood screwed together, the middle piece being about half the width of the two outer ones. The boards are just standard withs of pine and they drop down into the grove created by the narrower bit of timber in the wings. Easy to make.
  23. I don't do agility so forgive me if this is a stupid question, but are the tires always suspended like that? So that they can swing freely. It seems a bit strange to me to have something like that, that has no ground line and swings. Surely if the dogs bank it with either front of rear paws it would be like a catapult since it has no solid bar underneath for the tire to be bolted to. I realise that most of the jumps have no real gound line either but the poles fall down if they are struck and the tire just seems to flip the dog through the air. Some of those accidents are horrors.
  24. Oh LP you poor thing. I did something very like that with my first dog it wasn't an official trial but I was 13 and I really did cry. I still get a flash every time I do SFE of myself saying stand and stay and then as my lovely boy looked up at me, Phantom. I have never mucked that up ever again. We would have had a 196 if I'd kept my mouth shut. Someone said to me after that, that trialling is character building. So imagine how much more character you'll have when Leo's got his UD. Oh and Ness judges seem to respond best to chocolate..... Pixie for what it's worth I would always say sit in that situation the points don't bother me and sometimes you only have to say it the first time. I would rather lose a qualifying score (and I have done) than have the dog repeat the wrong behaviour, but that's just me.
  25. LOL @ the lot of you. You all know the dogs are just making sure we don't get too full of ourselves. Mine went through a stage of doing something different wrong at every trial. Though I too nearly cried the day she decided to exit the ring back to the OH when we took the leads off for the stays. We retired then and there not one of us was having a good day. I can't see either Ness or Leo not gaining their UD titles even if it does take a while. Of course if the handlers keep showing signs of cold feet who knows! I'm eyeing Southern in March for a final CCD pass and we all know what that means. It means Miss Koori will start getting inventive about what to "forget", either that or she'll poke the judge in the groin again. Now that was embarrassing only for me mind you Koori was totally impressed with herself.
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