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Whooo hooooo Mawson!! Chad and Annabell Shannons foster girl Casey

Oh whos that?? Here comes the big fella

Missed you today Jj, here are a few shots of the afternoon. My Boys Waiting for thier buddys

Thanks for the advice, I think I will definatley have to only give it to him once a day as I am having trouble getting him to actually take it.... Full story here ......>. http://www.dolforums.com.au/index.php?showtopic=200734

The container and the vet said 2.5mg in the morning then 2.5 mg in the evening as his dose is 5 mg per day. Then we he goes to maintenance it is still meant to be half morning and night. I can't see that it would hurt having the whole dose in one go?

Does anyone that uses Joint Guard only give once a day instead of twice a day?

Well we are back to square one today, Cooper turned his nose up at the milk this morning. So after thinking it may have been a winner yesterday, not so much today, I even warmed it up!! Does anyone that uses Joint guard only give it once a day? It says on the tub and also the vet said twice a day, will it make a difference if he has the right amount once a day instead of in two lots??

just as I started to read this thread all of mine started barking how bizzare!!

I have wondered how different the human stuff is? Well good news I just tried the goats milk, literally it's quite yummy!! And Cooper thought so too It was touch and go he took a slurp and then walked away but I coaxed him back and he drank it all it was only about 1/4 of a cup full, and he was licking the bottom of the bowl for more so I think we may have found a winner. He is really weird at times he will look at something but not have a bar of it but if I put a bit of it in his mouth and he gets a taste of it, then he will eat it I did try that with the fish for dogs but no way and I ended up with a big sticky stinky fishy .

Very nice !!!! I was going to leave a comment on your pics, but I can't access your profile to add you as a friend.. I have one too, but i need some proper pandora charms for it ! Thanks Jules, I went to face book to find you through Dolers unite and it said that all I had to do was confirm and then we were friends. Im Barbie Ann on face book but I figured you would figure out who I was once you looked at my pictures!

Thanks for that! heres a link to one of my face book albums of my Birthday present if anyone wants to have a looky. http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2286...mp;l=74e9702d64

For yourself or on the pooch? It's sure got me curious I will have to try it when I open it!!

They do lots of swimming in summer but I think too cold here at the moment. I am definatley guided by the dogs and especially Cooper and thier body language as to when they have had enough, but some days i am sure they would run all day, they are very active when we are out and about. I think for the time being our regular regime is ok because there has been no outward signs of any problem apart from the inital limp which lasted about a week, then with a weeks rest and ease back into it, he has been fine ever since. Only on asking the vet did he notice the stiffness in the right hip. So I'm hoping it is nothing serious and will keep a very close eye on his. Funny you should mention that we have a very good Doggy hiro here in town and I had Cooper to him (not for a problem I took all of them to see him just for general check) when he was about 18 months old and he noticed then that his right hip was stiff and on stretching his leg out it seemed to pop and Cooper screamed and the chiro said his hip was out. and that he had popped it back in. When I asked the vet about this the vet disagreed with the chiro and said that if his hip was out he wouldn't be able to walk on it?? Is it possible that he has had a bad hip since he was a pup and the chiro fixed it but it has done some damage in the mean time?? that was over 2 years ago now and I never went back. Maybe I should? Just home from the supermarket got the goats milk, will try it tonight! He sounds very similar to Cooper also Coop has always been under weight so this has probly helped, it is only now that his weight is right where it should be. Cooper also never exhibits soreness after exercising or on waking, mornings etc. Great suggestions, a few options I hadn't thought of thanks. Thanks so much for the link I will check it out. The vet said the tub I got was $90 he thought but I never seen the bill as I put it on my account so not quite sure of the price but will definatley look into getting it cheaper if I can. I don't think putting it in with his dry will work as occasionally he leaves some and he is a slow eater and picks over every little bit. The short answer for me is that my dogs like both but tolerate goats milk better. Here's some stuff on the differences. Goat Milk vs Cow Milk · Nutrient content of goat milk is slightly less than cow milk but goat milk is more digestible because the fat molecules are one-fifth the size of those from cow milk -- making it easily tolerated by those with compromised digestive systems. · It is one-third richer than cows milk but more nourishing and easier to digest. · Goat milk has no cream separation because of smaller fat molecules. · Goat milk contains pre-formed Vitamin A in the milk fat that allows it to be readily available for use by the body. · Goats milk contains a more highly-evolved cholesterol than cows milk, making it more available for absorption to the brain and body. (Cholesterol is essential to the health of the myelin sheaths "white matter" of the nerves in the brain.) · Goat milk has an alkaline reaction. Cow milk has an acid reaction · Goat milk does not form mucous (phlegm). · Goat milk contains more chlorine, fluorine and silicon than any other domestic livestock. Chlorine and fluorine are natural germicides and fluorine assists in preventing diabetes. · Goat milk contains 2% curd, which precipitates in the stomach. Cows milk is 10% curd. · Goats milk is tolerated by a compromised /damaged liver because of the smaller fat molecules and it's naturally homogenized. · Goats milk has the ability to "sweeten" the intestinal tract and assist with constipation. · Goats milk contains a higher evolved carotene (pro-Vitamin A). Researchers have found this to have cancer preventing properties. Getting RIGHT off topic, I'm a huge fan of goats milk soap too! After reading that I would much prefer to use goats milk. Coop hasn;t had any sort of milk since he was about 12 months old and occasionally he can have tummy upset so I know the goats milk will be better. thanks for the info. Ordinarily I would totally agree with you actually I do agree with you and if it had of been one of my other 3 this is what I would do. But with Cooper it is just impossible, he has a will of steel, In trying to find the best diet for him (its taken 4 years) some times he will go 4 days with no food, believe me I have tried and he has been so skinny at times I just don't know how he has been able to function. So to see him now perfectly healthy and the right weight I don't want to take a step backwards by starving him to get him to eat it when it may be something as simple as mixing it with milk. He would love that, he does actually share a crust of peanut butter and toast of a morning with my OH before he goes to work, so if all else fails! Thanks so much for all the great replies and suggestions, very much appreciated.

Thanks for that I had tried earlier to get onto the website but i couldnt get it to work but that link worked fine! I am heading out to take the dogs for a run now so Ill head to the supermarket to get some goats milk and will give that a try, will also try it just on his dry but I can see if all just going to the bottom of the bowl and not into his tummy!

Oh and another thing I wonder is what would you guys call over exercising? The vet said don't over exercise. How do you really know how much exercise they do need. His weight is perfect and at this time of the year none of my lot probley get enough exercise due to the weather. but on an average day weather permitting they would get an hour sometimes once sometimes twice a day. The vet said this is ok. The thing is I guess it depends on what sort of exercise, mine have free running and so most of the hour for Cooper is spent running. I wonder if this would be considered too much? Baring in mind he doesn't think he has a major problem but without doing an xray he can't be sure but he is not presenting with anything other than not being able to stretch his right leg right out, so at this point he didn't think an xray was warranted. The vet did say if down the track he needed to be sedated for anything else he would xray his hips just to have a look. He also said if he had hip dysplasia it would have presented itself much earlier on and he would be lame after exercise which he has never been and he has always been an active dog when out and about. He just said he could have bad hips which may get worse as he gets older hence the joint gaurd.

Can you just buy goats milk in the supermarket?

Thanks so much for the advice, I have somewhere to start at least, I came home with the fish for dogs thinking that would be a winner but no he screwed his nose up at that, the fussy little toad. So glad i have some other things to try, I went into panic mode thinking :D I won't be able to get him to take it. The chewable ones sound good too! Thanks again.

Thanks PF, I wondered if it was just a product you have to buy from the vets, if he stays on it long term then I will definatly have to shop around for a good price. The tub I got says it should last about 160 days for his weight. Milk might be the go, I will have to try a few different things to see what is going to be the easiest to manage. I wonder how it tastes and if it is bitter? I will go see if I can find the other thread and have a read. Thanks again.

Well that's the thing, I have only just found a diet that really suits him and he is perfect weight, so I didn't want to have to add more to his daily amount, but I just know if I mix anything with his EP he wont eat it. So my only option is a small amount of something wet that I know he will eat. But trying to think of something that is not going to cost a fortune. Good idea about the tuna, that may work, might try a small tin to begin with.

Hi Guys, Cooper has been to the vets today just for yearly Vacc and check up. A few weeks ago he had a slight limp in his back leg seemingly from his hip but after a week of rest he was all good no more limp. I asked the vet today about it and he checked his hips and said that the right one he didn't seem to be able to extend it all the way back like he could the left one. He asked me if I wanted to put him on joint gaurd so I did but he has to have 1/2 scoop morning and 1/2 scoop at night. So fast forward to my dilemma, Coopers diet is Eagle Pack, and RMB so what the heck do I put the joint gaurd in?? He wont eat canned food, I did buy the fish for dog tins to try but no luck. I do know he will eat the tiny tins of cat food (dine) but at $120 a pop that is just not practical. I may have to try sardines but apart from that I can't think of anything else. What do others who have thier dogs on this use? If it was any of the other 3 It wouldn't be an issue. Can I mix it with milk? Also for the ones who have thier dogs on Joint gaurd how have you found it? Are there other brands of something similar?

Thanks!!

Thanks Jess and Tenties. Tenties dont feel bad, I didn't even ask two of my closest friends You should have just invited yourself, that would have been great the more the merrier!! When Logans opens again we will have to all go. I have had a great day, out for lunch out for tea will it ever end actually tea was a spur of the moment thing I was chatting to a friend on msn and her OH was working and mine was going to cricket so inside 30 minutes we were at the horse for tea and drinks Thanks again for all the birthday wishes!!

Huga, love that one of Lola, she so cute!! Helen, that is a beautiful shot of Bella, She is such a good girl!!

Yes Thanks so much RJ and thanks for my Birthday Wishes. Pandii hope your daughter is having a lovely day to....ah to be 19 again we had a devil of a time deciding where to go for lunch when we got to Logans and found it shut how dare they and on my birthday!! Will just have to make up for it next week!!