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Our Kelpie refuses to eat salmon fish heads & spine bones, in fact he hates anything slimy including liver. The Belgian on the other hand is a guts & will eat anything. Likewise our old GSDx who really enjoyed his salmon heads!

I think poochmad lives in Goulburn?

She may be able to hear something that is not audible to a human ear. One of my dogs is frightened to go outside when the kids swimming carnival is on...... the pool is over a kilometre away but the starter uses a pistol to start the races. My dog is storm phobic & frightened of noises such as loud bangs, gunfire & the cracking of a stock whip.

I actually think we should all give Jelly & Nek some space, put this topic to bed for a month & then revisit it :)

According to the NSW Road Users Handbook(p134) when parked: If you are more than three metres away from your vehicle you must: • Remove the key out of the ignition. • Lock all doors and windows if there is no one in the vehicle. My dog's comfort comes first. And there's no offence for leaving a vehicle unsecured (although insurance companies might not like it - again, tough luck. Dogs are more important). But there is for leaving a dog to suffer in a hot car... It has nothing to do with security of personal property, but the danger of the car being able to be moved. A friend left her dogs in her vehicle while she dropped into the library..... only gone for a few minutes. Dogs usually remain in the rear of the vehicle, but occasionally hop into the driver's seat while they wait for her return. On this occasion, when she came out of the library, the car had rolled forward about 5 metres & was in a different parking space with the bonnet up against a tree The car was a manual & we can only assume the handbrake was not on & the dogs knocked the gear stick out of gear. Fortunately this was in a country town & the car park was virtually empty. Then there are the occasions when people have left their dogs in their cars while they pay for petrol - they haven't taken the keys with them & hey presto, when they come back to their car, Fido has locked them out! Mind you, people with dogs are not the only ones who do this. A far worse practice is leaving kids in cars while the parent dashes into the shop. For some reason the Fyshwick markets in Canberra seems to be a popular place to do this - I often see children left in cars to amuse themselves - frequently they are playing with the controls

So how long does 440g of SuperBoost last? I thought for one moment it only lasted 5 days

I have some Essiac Tea capsules here which I was intending to offer you. I never got around to trying Rogan on them when he had cancer. However, I really think you should consult with a holistic vet to come up with a tailor made treatment program for your little guy. I have just been reading the label on the capsules & it warns against taking them if suffering from a number of gastro intestinal disorders including IBS, ulcerative colitis, Crohn's disease & abdominal pain of unknown origin! I agree with the other posters in that diet & supplements go a long way in supporting the cancer patient, but there are a myriad of treatment protocols out there & you will do your head in trying to research them all! If you can find a holistic practitioner to work with your vet, you will save yourself much anxiety. Good luck with Scruffy, it is an arduous journey but you will find lots of support on here :)

Oh wow, I'm so pleased the mood is upbeat regarding Roo & that Jelly can potentially have her life back

Bumping so Jelly sees this, hope you can work something out with Brooke

Jelly, you asked how to keep your anxiety under control. Well, that's a hard one, but maybe you are already starting to? Seeing Jelly happy at the student household is a start as is chatting it over with like minded souls on DOL. Is there a DOL meet near you? There are social events on this pageof DOL? You've really got to get out & have some relaxation - this way you could take Jelly! You have shown incredible fortitude & although I don't have any useful advice to help you on this journey, I am, like many others here, beside you every step of the way. As Rosetta said, make sure to look after yourself & keep persevering. You obviously deserve a change of luck in life right now & I hope it's just around the corner :)

Where there is no envenomation, the bite is termed a 'dry bite'. Snakes do not inject venom with every bite, they may not waste venom on prey too large to eat or they may mistime their strike & venom may be released before the fangs make contact with flesh. So pleased to hear that Spud has recovered, a night away from home in hospital is a worrying time, isn't it!

You know I was reading something on another list today & it made me think of Roo. The gist of the discussion was one of the forms of communication with our dogs we often neglect is that of emotion. While our thoughts drive our emotions, our feelings come from hormonal & chemical changes in our body. A sensitive dog can pick up on this & a dog is able to sense what we feel before we feel any emotion. Many dogs know we are about to get angry or cry before we manifest that particular emotion..... they can smell what we feel before we feel the emotion. Similar to the dog that can predict an epileptic seizure. Jelly, you have been through the emotional wringer, you have lost a partner & your life has been turned upside down. This applies equally to Roo as well. However as well as the physical absence of someone in her life she can smell your anxiety. Roo is now the main focus of your life but this situation is stressful in itself as there is the underlying fear of losing her; I'm not explaining this very well, but your anxiety would be feeding hers & it becomes a vicious circle. Obviously her time in the student household provides respite for both of you. She certainly looks relaxed in the photo. Maybe you were filled with less trepidation leaving her there, so that on this occasion she feels more confident & less stressed because you are? I certainly hope so & that it gives you both a breathing space for some normality to creep back into your lives.

Yes, my sentiments too, Tessie had a life well-lived & well-loved. Take care, TT & your partner also. Run free over the bridge, Tessie Rogan will look out for you.

Oh that looks so hopeful

I do not know how big Spud is & whether weight makes a difference, but when our GSD x was bitten by a snake vet waited for positive signs of envenomation before administering antivenene. Dog began to spot saliva & pupils did not constrict until about 2 hours post snake bite. Dog was admitted to clinic about 15 - 20 minutes after being bitten & was hooked up to fluids immediately ..... just in case. Make sure you get ABs when Spud is discharged due to any infection arising from snakebite. The emergency vet did not do this & our boy was quite lame for a couple of days before I could get into our regular vet - who dispenses ABs as a matter of course following any snake or lizard bite.

Erny, you may have hit the nail on the head..... there must surely be a clinical explanation for Roo's behaviour?

Jelly, I think you mentioned you were having a couple of weeks off? Have you been in touch with sas? Just thinking in these two weeks maybe you could start to implement sas' strategy & the Chinese herbs & get a guage on whether they might work? This thread makes me feel quite helpless, we usually do T-Touch & relaxing CDs for anxious Belgians, but I don't think they are high powered enough for your girl

Dear TT Have been thinking of you & your family today. Hope you are OK.

Lovely photos....... lovely memories...... hope they help ease the pain of loss. You are never far from my thoughts, Cazstaff!

Gorgeous girl! No reason why she shouldn't see out another 10 :)

I don't believe in starting supplements until the dog needs them. I feed raw & have done for 25 years. My dogs have been BSDs, GSDs, & Kelpies & their derivatives over this time. I practise a minimum vaccination protocol. All have attained good ages except for our GSDx who succumbed to mandibular osteosarcoma at around 10 years of age. They get heaps of exercise, are kept fit & some have trialled in obedience. To my mind longevity comes down to good genes & destiny, just like us humans :) I think cancer & snake bite are the two biggest concerns for me, but I do not believe in going through life worrying about what may happen. Live life to the full & make the most of each day :D

I'm so sorry TT I was in a bit of a rush & somewhat distracted when I read & replied to your post yesterday - I didn't realise the mass was so large. Under the circumstances I think you have made the right decision. I do not know the location of the surgery or how it is set up but would the vet be amenable to giving Tess her wings in the car? Then it's just like going for one last car ride. Thinking of you & sending you strength & courage for tomorrow.

Hugs to you Your case sounds very similar to our boy Rogan. Mandibular osteosarcoma usually shows metastasis in the lungs initially. Have you had a lung X-ray? This would help you decide if any course of action can be considered. Rogan's thread is here in Health & Nutrition forum. Cav n Rott also has extensive experience with this type of osteosarcoma. Her journey is documented in this thread here in Palliative Care. It is many pages long, so I am sure she would not mind if you wanted to PM her for advice. CnR chose to go down the chemo road, for us it was not an option. My best advice would be to seek a consultation with a holistic practitioner (with the agreement of your regular vet); diet & supplements can play a huge part in keeping your dog well & pain free in whatever time is left. Sorry, I have to rush off now, but please PM me if you would like to chat, or I will pop in again & see how you are travelling.

Possibly a good solution for the clam shell, but not what I'd recommend for a bucket necessarily. If a small dog tips in the bucket and can't get back out, the bricks could prevent it from tipping over thus releasing the dog. In the rescue dog runs there are buckets in milk crates to help stop them tipping them out (have had a few Cattle Dogs that like to dig in the buckets), but I would be apprehensive about putting one of those in with my JRT.......maybe I'm just way too paranoid though!!! :) S Reminds me of a story about a Stumpy Cattle Dog puppy only about 9 weeks of age at the time. Owner was visiting a stable complex & being an accomplished horse handler was asked to hold a fractious horse during a veterinary procedure. For safety's sake, or so he thought, he locked the little pup in an empty stable. In the space of fifteen minutes little pup had climbed up & fallen into the water bucket When owner came back to get him, he was motionless in the bucket & had turned completely blue. Fortunately owner & visiting vet managed to resuscitate him. He was a lucky pup though, fortunately did not suffer any brain damage & went on to be an awesome worker on cattle!

A 'claytons' mini Dobermann :laugh: