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You can get a 44 gallon drum, get the end cut out and attach the chute to it. Also you get get fairly firm mesh and roll it up and cover it with material so it imitates a solid entrance then attach a chute to that. I've used both very successfully.

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So Midol I am still waiting for your answer to what you would do if someone, many times larger than you, came up to you speaking in a foreign language, asking something of you and when you don't comply you are grabbed by the collar and forced to the ground and held there until you say Uncle? Cosmolo, you mention 16 week old pups that have hardly been touched. Surely you don't grab them and throw them to the ground? Surely you start off with gentle touches, then maybe start by leaning over them, slightly enveloping them before progressing to a hug and so on and so on? My pups, bred or otherwise, have all chucked tanties when I wanted to clip their nails, at the beginning. I have held them gently until they realised I wasn't going to hurt them, put them down and started in 5 minutes again, never clipping their nails until they were settled. I have had a real tantrum thrower and yes I let her go as I wasn't going to be the cause of such distress. She learnt to trust me and became one of my best dogs ever. You don't have to force a dog to submit to you, there are other ways.

Yep I've seen it done when the owner is standing right next to the so called instructor and the dog. No time to react at all before their dog is a quivering mess on the ground. What the dog learns from that is to be suspicious of hands approaching them. Or to become the quivering mess on the ground whenever they are approached which is just as hard for another person be they vet, groomer, whatever.

But the dog, which was a pup, wasn't guided, it was grabbed by a stranger and dragged into a very submissive position, poor pup wouldn't have had any idea of what was expected of it so yes it screamed and struggled to get away from this attack. I suggest if someone many times your size suddenly grabbed you by your collar and forced you down to the ground you might seriously object too. And keep objecting until you either broke free or gave in.

Been there and done that and learnt the lesson. No need indeed for any dog,let alone a 16 week old pup, to be treated in such a way, but some people try to make up for their lack of knowledge by using brute strength instead.

A hard lesson learned, never let the instructor use your dog as a demo dog, unless you yourself are 100% happy with their training methods or something like this happens.

Fern's breeder was here today checking out the pups and she had one of he greyhounds bloat last Sunday. The bitch had the op and came home ( vet wanted to send her to a 24 hr facility but Kris didn't ) and Kris said she has bounced back remarkably well in just a week. Fingers crossed Millie does the same.

keeping everything crossed that all is going to plan

That video is hilarious ISH I wonder if the greyhounds would like something?

I vaccinated my 2 pups today at 8 weeks and their next one will be at 12 weeks and that's it until a booster 12 months after that. I only vaccinate with a C3.

Congratulations ;)

I wouldn't be putting chemicals like that on their sensitive bellies and groins. It is designed to go on their backs, that's where I would put it. I had a dog lean against a painted wall after having it applied to their back. The paint lifted! I was horrified but the vet said there was an ingrediant in spot on's that could do that. I now avoid them as much as possible.

I wouldn't give him more than a C3.

no go for me :rolleyes: too much pain in shoulder, need quite a bit of work on it

Good meat to bone ratio in those small children, Ruth Generally both meat sources are free range too. yeah but children eat a lot of junk food, don't know that I would want my dogs eating them, thank of the nasties in the liver

can't help yourself can you why don't you post what you think instead of trying to pass off other people's work as your own

rude again

How lovely, a newbie being rude. And your point is???????

I have hit a hurdle Me, not Fern. I've hurt my shoulder at work, suspected torn tendons, wouldn't really know until I see the physio this coming Friday and find out the results of the ultra sound. Luckily it is my right shoulder but I am struggling with it re biking Fern. I'm going to do what I can until I see the physio and then I'll ask her if bike riding is okay ( won't mention the dog attached ). If she says no I'll be out. It's work cover and I can't afford to stuff that up.

Umm, to actually trial a dog you need to be a member of your state's organisation. I thought you were opposed to them Midol?

another thumbs up for K9 + Katz, only cost me $7 delivery for a 13 kilo bag and was here in 2 days

If it's warm you can also hold an umbrella up for us or if it's rainy, Fern doesn't do rain.

Duh, where's the where? we are doing it at the Dali club one in Melbourne

I just "block" with the front wheel.....Benson has never been jammed, just blocked. Hmmmmm....greyhounds are bred for speed not endurance, she'd be a whole different deal to train because you're going against hundreds of years of genetic coding. How is she on long, long walks? That's why I am taking over 12 weeks to train her, got to build up those slow twitch muscles as opposed to the fast twitch ones. Fern won't be the 1st greyhound to get her ET title. There was one last year in Tas, one in Victoria about 4 years ago and I think there was one in Queensland but don't hold me to that. Yes very different to training my other 2 dogs that I have titled, takes a bit more thought and planning. ETA Fern was doing 6 k's with ease before motherhood interrupted our training