mita

That bloke talked about threatening to shoot your dog. We have gun laws & he's making a claim, under the threat, that he owns a gun. I'd report the incident to the police. His extremely abusive & threatening behaviour (especially mentioning guns) makes me think that this bloke might already have form in police records.

I found a pic of one, leaning against a French lady's skirts, just being her loved pet. Tough work, but some dogs juat have to do it. And still do! http://www.google.com.au/imgres?q=Papillon+history+as+a+lap+dog&hl=en&client=safari&sa=X&rls=en&biw=974&bih=603&tbm=isch&prmd=imvns&tbnid=ISo9DTac-mLR2M:&imgrefurl=http://www.dog-paw-print.com/toy-dog-breeds.html&docid=kHjxyQzCSlcmJM&imgurl=http://www.dog-paw-print.com/image-files/Toy%252520Dog%252520Breeds/toy-dog-breeds-papillon-in%252520painting.jpg&w=514&h=767&ei=NofATtSyDOjomAXXzfWvBA&zoom=1

The Australian registered breeders do a fine job in breeding dogs , in my breed of interest, who more than happily do exactly what they were bred to do for hundreds of years. Being close companion dogs to the monks in the Tibetan monasteries. Give a p/b tibetan spaniel a welcoming home with lots of mutual love....and it'll do what comes naturally. Here's one 'working' hard in its original role:

Nicely said, Sandra.

Onya, dogmad. She can't continue living like that. She's such a fine looking dog with potential...in the right hands.

Not that it helps this poor dog. But it's against the Q'ld law to have a dog tied up all the time. This case shows why

Sorry to go against your poll. But I like Charlie because he's a CKCS, a breed named after a King.

I had the same thought! He's the dearest little fellow.

I'm a Tibbie Tragic. So Mita....'Me...Interested in Tibbies Always.' But I backslide quite a bit, especially in the direction of Shelties & Cardigan Corgies. And just about any gorgeous dog that DOLers post pics of. Then there was the affectionate, sensible & biddable female Pitbull who found our house, when lost. :)

You're a newb......... you ain't seen the DOL machine in action! ;) It can be awe inspiring . I agree. DOL is a treasure house for goodwill, kindness and support. Many amazing things have been done for dogs and their owners. BM, you & your doggie just got a sample!

Dead right about not trusting a phone call. I knew someone who phoned a pound to check if a male GSD had been brought in. No, they said, only a female. Owner went & looked.....yes it was his male GSD. Here's hoping that the white staffy X sign leads to the owner.

You're dead right, oakway. The breeder can only do their best to suss out if a potential adopter will prove to be a good match with a puppy. It's then a case of the puppy-buyer having to build on all the good work already laid down by the breeder.

Couldn't agree more. The breeder who cares about the future life & welfare of their puppies/dogs, tends to be a person who cares about the welfare of their dogs, in all respects. Health, temperament etc. So a breeder who wants to know lots about how I (as a potential adopter) have cared for my pets & animals, gets a thumbs up from me. And who centres the conversation on the important things in caring for dogs. It's just lovely to find yourself on the same page as an experienced highly respected breeder when it comes down to the basics. I've found that breeders like this talk about their dogs.....using their call names....just like any dog lover tends to talk. It becomes very evident that they know their dogs well....& are close to them. And even tho' they might not use jargon words, like 'socialisation'.....they do it, in how their puppies are made to be close to people from birth and have all the experiences on their level of development. I've also found that breeders like this, have a deep interest in their particular breed & very, very happy to talk about it or point an enquirer to the good information. And when that breeder says, 'Now, if anything should ever go wrong....call me.' They're the magic words. I've got dogs from breeders like these & they've been a joy.

That is absolutely fantastic! I reckon it shows his anxiety.....is more excitement-generated anxiety. Which needs to be channeled into trained behaviours.....& getting reward for it. Both food and praise. So I'd agree with you about not rushing into meds, but seeing how his progress continues. Learning behaviours like 'Sit', bonding with you thro' walks & getting an organised routine going....should help. You're right.....he's a clever boy who can learn that his 'person' runs the show. And he'll be so much happier for it. ADDED: I'm also a 'no beds', 'no furniture' owner, especially for clever active dogs who'd take over the world themselves! But, who, have all the goods to respond to training.

I think there's high level anxiety going on & he's been thro' the disruptions that go along with being dumped. With his breed's high physical activity level....that's how he's expressing it. Along with the trying to take some charge by 'humping' people & 'demanding' the comfort of company by being noise when alone. And there's no sign of any 'training' from his original home, which would've brought some imposed order on his behaviour. Tho' I don't normally believe in meds, I'd wonder if something could just hose down his anxiety level a bit for a short while.....without making him too woozy to gain from his new training. A temporary short course of something like valium? A vet has used that with a highly anxious dog I had, from disrupting circumstances. Oddly enough, I'd do a lot of work with him on a short lead (which is more controllable), giving him as many short walks as possible, where he'd held right beside your leg. It seems to help sort the message of who's in charge. With stops for a treat when he must sit. For dogs that are reluctant to 'sit'....I hold the treat low & back over their head. So the dog has to 'sit' to see the treat. I agree with others who've suggested some busy work for him via his mouth. Great big bone or kong to chew. I'd also restrict his access to the house to one room only, at the moment. And put down plastic tarps on the floor. I'd take him out to the toilet, as you do with toilet training.....& always close the door behind as he moves around the yard. He needs to learn there's an 'inside the house' & there's an 'outside the house'. Nasty as it seems I'd transfer a bit of the poop out onto a spot on the garden.....so that's the smell he's led to. Dogs go to the toilet on top of the smell. Which is why, once they've done it in the house.....they tend to go back to that area. Best of luck, as someone else said, re-training requires patient persistence.

Well, not an old dog, but a young one. Amazingly, a black labrador. I know of people who adopted a guide dog failure (too friendly with any dog he saw). They had to teach him to swim. Maybe part of his training (that he had passed!) was not to be tempted by water. I don't know how they taught him. Perhaps just took him gently in little steps alongside their other (happy swimming) dog, a viszla. Genuine fun pic they took of him at his swimming lesson:

I've known 2 pet Dobes, both males and they were lovely laid back gents. Both raised from puppyhood & came from registered breeders. The first was the runt of a litter & a youngish married couple offered to take him. And he repaid them a hundred-fold. When they had their children, this boy was a real trustworthy nanny dog. He was a loving family member until the children reached their teenage years.....so he had a good long life. And there was huge grief when he finally went to doggie heaven. The second is owned by a builder whose wife owns a tibetan spaniel. Both raised from puppyhood & great mates. They form a great security team. If there's any noise of someone come on to the property, the alert tibbie hears it & gives a warning bark. The Dobe wanders out to take a look & is a visual deterrent. What an intruder wouldn't know is that he's a big loving wuss and as equal a housedog as his tibbie friend.

My tibbie girls have a heaped tablespoon of Vaalia Natural Probiotic Yoghurt every day. Mixed in with diced sweet potato (cooked) & either chicken, pork or salmon.

More excellent advice.

That's great, jodi. The Cavs should be got into well-screened new forever homes as soon as possible. With Cav Rescues (like Qld's) sometimes already having good people waiting.... That is, if it's not the original breeder's preference that they come back to him/her for rehoming.

If it's clear that the breeder will not be taking them back, I'd be telling the owner to get on to Cav Rescue as soon as possible. I'm assuming there's a Cav Rescue in Victoria. If it were Q'ld, my experience of Cav Rescue Qld is that they're absolutely tops. Sometimes that rescue has good people waiting to adopt.

jr, I'm a tibetan spaniel tragic. And based on the requirements you posted, I actually ruled one out. The family don't want a dog that sheds much. Even tho' a tibbie's coat is wash 'n wear, they can go thro' a couple of months when the coat 'blows' a bit. That's why I suggested a Cardigan Corgi. Fantastic all-round good breed for a family. That was so interesting what the mum said to you, how they could only afford a mixed breed & not a purebred. I thought your answer to her was spot on. It is a view that's held by lots of people. When often, the 'designed' mixed breeds in pet stores are often far more expensive than a purebred from a good registered breeder.

You are right, Erny. The 'campaign' is much more than this rally. And all the previous rallies, letter-writing and lobbying.....have been part of an on-going campaign. That's a good point, too, that's it's heart-warming to see people who don't own the targeted breeds, turning up to support others.

This one illustrates why my suggestion was Cardigan Corgi. I'd totally agree with this fella's breeder about how adaptable these dogs are for families & children. And he's been raised to be happy around children! Scrumpy is just over the waters in Tasmania. http://www.dogzonline.com.au/breeds/mature/welsh-corgi-cardigan.asp

1. I'd say the allergy thing is hard to predict. If a sheltie causes no reaction, many breeds, not just low-shedding breeds, may be ok. 2. For children, lineage may be more important than breed. There are hyper dogs in calm breeds and calm dogs in hyper breeds. Good advice. The all-round adaptible breed I'd suggest, is a Cardigan Corgi. We had one as kids & she was a superb family dog. And I thoroughly agree with the second point. Different temperaments turn up in different bloodlines. I'd also look for breeders who raise their dogs & puppies with access to children. Not necessarily the breeder's own children....but maybe grandchildren or visiting children. And who generally make a point of socializing their dogs & puppies.