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Good on you, Gayle, for doing this exercise, figuring approximate prices. You're right about the range within a breed....like Tibbies may be less or more than $500. With the voice of bias , I find this amazingly economic for one of the soundest, most charming breeds from registered sources. Every tib I've adopted has been an adult & I had to force the breeder to take any money at all. I get so many comments from strangers about what beautiful looking dogs they are....& with what gorgeous temperaments they have. But they came that way from their breeders! A vet remarked to me once, how he couldn't understand why people buy those highly expensive 'designed' small dogs, when there were top little p/b dogs like tibs available. I second that!

Give a high pitched loud squeal when his teeth make contact. He'll back away.

Agree. 'Intelligence' is adaptive behaviour. So behavour is relevant to whatever environment a person or dog has to adapt to, in order to survive & thrive.

Well, tibetan spaniels don't wear pyjamas anyway. But they're pleased cousin chow is on the list.

You can find a pic of each of the doggie 'stars' here....without having to watch the show. http://www.petrescue.com.au/article/792

The Law Society of NSW has a Solicitor Referral Service, whereby members of the public can get linked with a solicitor with a special interest in a certain issue. So your friend might be able to find a solicitor with interest in council by-laws re dog management. Phone no to contact that service: http://www.lawsociety.com.au/community/fin...lservice/008797

Seems like this dog was also a poster boy for rescue dogs. Harry was a Past Guest of the AWL Qld Shelter. From their website: AWL past guest stars on channel 9 Today show Past guest of the AWL Qld, Harry has made headlines in becoming one of the first autism awareness dogs in Australia - and was featured on Channel 9's Today show this morning.

Pics of each of the doggie 'stars' on the PetRescue site. I'm in love with Billy & Pup. No....with them all. http://www.petrescue.com.au/article/792

Thanks for the extra pics! Methinks Wilbur loves dogs! Greyhounds sure are photogenic. They look like elegant super-models.

The pics are great. Any more... hint, hint? Congrats again to PetRescue & Pedigree for getting the idea of adopting rescue dogs out into the public.

Same could be said about any dog with the size & mass to do harm. And even that's relative....a smaller dog is capable of savaging a baby's or small child's face. Every piece of decent research (which very few people seem to look at), from a variety of countries, points to human culpability from breeding decisions (or lack of) thro' to early raising, then training and management. And they've even sifted out characteristics of those humans most likely to finish up with a dog whose aggression can't be controlled. The logical thing is to follow up on that & do something about the humans. Obviously the majority on the Danish committee which had to discuss the banning of 13 breeds, thought that. Because 6 out of 9 on that committee opted for tightening the laws re human management of dogs. With which every piece of rigorous research would agree. Especially as such an approach would cover all dogs. It was the remaining 3 representatives of government departments who opted for the breed banning law. Just out of interest, a rigorous survey of dog was done in northern Italy....by the uni of Milan as a result of public concern about dog bites/attacks. The largest dog 'group' they found with aggression over the boundaries of safety....was mixed breeds (44 %)..

And I remember a rescuer saying how a couple assured her that they had secure fences. When she visited the house, it DID have secure fences on 3 sides. But there was no back fence, because it was a cliff! I mean who builds a fence across the top of a cliff? Well, most of us would....but not these people! They hadn't mentioned it because they didn't think it was odd.

Our doggie doors are made of perspex....but have clips at the top & bottom. So when we want the dogs & cat to be able to go out, the perspex flap can be clipped up. When not, the flap is clipped down.

I agree. Our vet describes herself as a holistic vet. She's as good & experienced at the medical/surgery side, as she is at supplements & diet. The tibs are so healthy, thanks to her. I've learned, too, how deceptive the labelling of many of the dog products are. It's so important....& revealing...to read the actual ingredients.

My tib girl came to me, as an adult. Her breeder cautioned me that she had a marked tendency to get yeast infections in her ears. Our good vet cleaned out her ears, while she was being desexed. Then the vet advised a diet which would stop the trouble at its source. Grains (especially wheat-based, but not rice) were to be out. Wherever they were....i dog biscuits, treats, kibble, dog sausage etc. The vet pointed out that many of these were actually mainly cereal. Beef totally out, too. Vet warned that many dog products listed as 'chicken' etc....actually said in the ingredients they were made with meat products, including beef. Vet advised the tib be fed with Advance Turkey & Rice kibble for Small Breeds. Ingredients Rice; sorghum; turkey and turkey by-products; chicken digest; vegetable oil; vegetable fi bre; chicken tallow; iodised salt; potassium chloride; di-calcium phosphate; taurine; vitamin E; zinc sulphate; antioxidants; choline chloride; vitamin C; lucerne meal; marigold meal; tomato powder; ferrous sulphate (iron); copper sulphate; vitamin A; calcium pantothenate; sodium selenite; vitamin B2; potassium iodide; vitamin B12; vitamin B1; niacin; vitamin D3; vitamin B6; folic acid. Supplemented with some chicken, chicken necks....& only treats, pork liver treats. With all cereals (except the rice in this kibble) & all beef cut out, I've been amazed at the reduction in any yeast infections in her ears. It's conivinced me that dietary guidelines wisely shaped to an individual dog can work wonders...when done with knowledge & applied faithfully.

:D to all the info given so far. Plus, if you can, look for happy customers who've adopted from a certain breeder & who've valued all that was done.

Wags, it's Well Done to the registered breeders that we've got our tibbies from. Because that's 'them' to a T! When people admire our dogs' looks & temperament & behaviour... and congratulate me, I tell them that's how they came from their breeder! The breeder who brought up our present 2 tibs, always asks, 'How are my girls?' Anyone who'd be threatened by a question like that...wouldn't twig that's why we've got such lovely dogs. :D

Absolutely, Wags! The genuine dog lovers will respond with warmth & empathy to this. And with gratitude that their 'likely' puppy has got such a wonderful start in life. A breeder who cares about her pup's future welfare, is a breeder who cares about her breeding decisions and the health & temperament of her dogs. Those applicants who don't respond but whose focus remains just on 'buying' the pup, right now, would need a bit more looking into.

The breeder I bought Benson from asked me exactly this question. My reply...."My last dog died two months ago, she was 14 years old and it was nowhere near long enough". I think that clinched it. The small problem with pop quizzes is that people who lurk on forums know what to answer even if it isn't the truth. If I were ever to source a dog from rescue, or some breeders, for example, I would never admit to working full time. Firstly, it's none of their business, and secondly in some cases, it's an immediate dismissal. I reckon you've made 2 excellent points. First, information on a person's past history as a pet owner, is pure gold. (And with references or documentation that supports what they tell.) People's behaviour tends to be consistent. Good pet owners continue to be good pet owners. Ditto for the opposites. Simply encouraging people to speak freely....as part of a general 'chat'...about the pets they've owned, can be illuminating. People tend to be less guarded & more spontaneous when 'chatting'....unlike how they think before answering a written questionnaire or being asked what sounds like a stock question. (I'm not saying breeders shouldn't use both of those, too. Just saying include the informal 'chat', too.) Second, people can tend to answer written or spoken questions with what they know (or believe) the questioner wants to hear. One way to double-check.....is to ask for the same information twice.....but from a different angle. Also asking for references (& checking them out) or for some kind of independent documentation, will help. How people respond to all this, is a good test in itself. The good responsible pet owner who understands how important the future of the little pup is, to a breeder, will comply. Anyone who starts to fuss or get defensive or seriously annoyed about 'being asked too many questions', cancels themselves out, IMO.

Interesting comment from the Danish Kennel Club. They say they were on the committee of 9 which had to agree if this banning of breeds should go into law. They report that only 3 members....all from various Gov agencies...voted yes. The remaining 6 (including the DKC) said no...and argued that the exististing laws which refer to all dogs should be tightened up (sound familiar?). So the minority won out. http://www.worlddogshow2010.dk/?GB/News/DK...port%20ban.aspx But, research keeps rolling in from various countries on what's the source of dangerously aggressive dogs & what to do about it. Very little, if any, of the results, point to banning breeds. Constantly, the source is found to be humans & what they do and provide for dogs. There was even one piece of research which showed the profile which came out, of people who tend to own a dog whose aggression is not under control. That these owners are not a pillar of emotional stability & social responsibility themselves, won't come as a surprise. And there's lots more , too....all about what humans do & provide (from birth & specially within the first 6 months of life). Not breeds, per se.

Oooh, the baby & the bloke on the bike. Pics that speak a thousand words. I hope these great members of the public....& Tom and Myf, too...will give permission for their pics to be further used for PetRescue purposes.

He's a tall handsome bloke from TV. Haven't a clue on what programs tho'. I'm an ABC, left-wing type. So great to see Myf holding the prettiest little dog.

Beautiful sunshiney weather for taking great pics in Brisbane. Hint, hint! Ooooh, nice pic of Tom Williams with cutie pup in Sydney.

Unless it's bucketing down, I always give the tib girls their walk. Sometimes the rain gears up & I carry them part of the way under a big umbrella....they grunt with the effort. I've learned juggling skills....2 little dogs, doggy-doo bag & umbrella. They love their 'outing' so much, it's a shame not to take them. I notice that the most faithful walkers on our walking track are the dog owners. Next most faithful are the people who take their babies & toddlers in prams (with those plastic covers, if light rain).

A little bird told me that some lovely live rescue dogs will help with the launch of yellow dogs in Brisbane. Well done, PetRescue team, sponsors & the rescue folk & their dogs.