Salukifan

Phew! That title had me worried!!

Constantly. That or the dog is exhibiting what people consider extreme submission so it must have been beaten. My mum is like that, her excuse for her pom x going mental is that he was taken to the shelter so he has a supposed fear it's going to happen again. Uh huh. Oh yeah, like totally. *snort*

I want to frame that. That's totally hit the nail on the head. Be my guest. As a trainer, I'm sure you've seen the term "rescue" trotted out to provide excuses for both dog and handler... I know I did.

Edna is a classic!

So do I. I often call Maddie Madge, that's my lovely old 94 year old neighbours name :) Stan and Madge, can't get much more old fashioned than that :laugh: When my next greyhound comes along he will be Reg :) I've always liked Arthur for a dog. :) Mind you, I have a Howard.

Couldn't agree more. No excuses, no pity - just deal with the dog you have. I would also suggest you ban future use of the term "she's a rescue" in explaining her behaviour to anyone. She isn't a rescue any more! I have seen way too many adoptive owners use that phrase as an excuse for all kinds of things and it doesn't help the dog move forward at all. Imagining a sad past may make you feel better about the dog's behaviour but it really isn't helpful. Rescue is where she came from, not who she is.

The other name she reminds me of is Daphne. I could never use that name on a dog as it was my grandmother's name but I do love it :)

Might be worth a call to the Poodle Club of NSW rescue/rehoming folk. Sounds like an experienced poodle home would be the go for these girls.

Hilda. Don't ask me why but she looks like a Hilda.

Children are capable of ignorance and cruelty. Its up to adults to shape them in better directions. However in my opinion, threats of violence to children are not the best way to deal with potential abuse of dogs. Not good role modelling for a start.

What do they do with pups they don't want to show then? Drown them to keep them out of the hands of the majority pet owning public? What that usually means is that they won't breed JUST for the pet market. The dogs not wanted or identified as show prospects are sold as pets.

Just posted this in the FB discussion of the same topic: I can’t help but think some of the reluctance to advertise pups on pet oriented sites comes from the misapprehension that ANKC breeders aren’t in the business of supplying “pets”. “Pet” is an insult in some breeders’ views and it’s a view that needs to be altered and fast. WHERE is the harm in breeding pups of sound body and mind and carefully placing them in homes of people who want nothing more than a good companion? I think some of us need to get over ourselves and reach out to families looking for pups. Yes, you’ll have to sort out the tyrekickers and fantasists but you’ll also be making some families (and pups) very bloody happy. The future of the purebred fancy requires building and maintaining a demand for what we are capable of producing – healthy happy dogs for great family homes. Some of those homes will go onto become involved in the fancy and many of them will commence a life long love of the breeds we sell to them. Time we started to work towards it. If that is not your goal then well and good but you shouldn't be denigrating the people who are guaranteeing a future for their breeds.

Seriously? I'd have thought the foster carer would be matching pups to the most suitable homes.

Memberships are no longer falling. Indeed, 2012 memberships were an increase over the previous year. It's not all doom and gloom. ANKC membership stats can be downloaded here. Whilst far behind what they were in the 70's, they are not in free fall. Similarly there were some increases in Group litter registrations in 2012

Why this is happening will be a combination of genetics, socialisation experiences (or lack of them), current environment and a trigger. Two of these are complete unknowns and the other two we're all left to guess. Time for expert assessment which is one thing we all seem to agree on. :)

I actually think that the moral of the story is "be careful before you conclude that a person's socio-economic circumstances automatically make them a bad (or good) dog owner"

Yes.

Are you kidding? Do you seriously think that breeders who advertise on Dogz all have quality breeding stock and do the right thing? Better take a better look. Amen to that. There are ANKC registered breeders who I could NEVER recommend.

There are a lot of people posting who seem keen to make excuses for your dog... scared, has been threatened or abused... Everything you've described could be just as easily explained by territorial aggression - especially as she is aggressing now towards someone she knows. But we haven't seen the dog - it's guesswork at best and it's not helpful to you or her. She is displaying aggressive behaviour towards people. Wondering why she's doing it won't make her bite any less hard. Good on you for asking for help. The next thing you need to ask for is a recommendation to a decent behavioural trainer in your area who can come in and observe the dog and suggest some techniques to manage this behaviour. As for "fixing" it? My guess is even with decent desensitisaiton work, she's never going to like strangers - but that is for an expert to assess. It goes without saying that she should be kept away from strangers in your home. If she is not crate trained, now is the time to start. She can be safely and securely contained whenever there are strangers in the home. No exceptions- you've already been very lucky not to have had her reported. ETA: She can be taken out in a decent muzzle. My guess is that it will help both you and her relax a bit.

Have stayed at Morning Glory River Resort overnight. It was great and right on the Murray. Would have liked to stay longer. It is on NSW side of the river.

I think it stems from a misapprehension that responsible breeders shouldn't be advertising alongside their less ethical number because they are somehow "better" than that. Poor standards aren't like cooties - they aren't catching. Of course, one reason some breeders don't advertise a great deal is they don't have to. An ad here can be all it takes to sell a litter.

Thought that was the case. Is it ... a) no different to grains b) better than grains c) worse than grains That's not correct. A lot of the corn in kibble these days is GMO and confirmed with a number of kibble co's when I did the last lot of research for our Dane feed guide. I'm pretty confident that Royal Canin remains GM free but if you know different Sas, I'd appreciate an update. :)

Thought that was the case. Is it ... a) no different to grains b) better than grains c) worse than grains It's better than grains for dogs that are allergic to grains. Given that domestic dogs have been eating grains since man started growing them, I don't have an issue with feeding grains to most dogs. Otherwise, I don't see it as any different. "Grain free" is marketing well for the same reason that "gluten free" markets well to a lot of health conscious people, most of whom aren't gluten intolerant. I see is as mostly a fad.

Its a filler. It's there to take the place of grain as a filler because "grain free" is the new catch cry for marketing dog food.

There is nothing personal in my statements but if you choose to infer that there is, there is little I can do about it. I HAVE read your entire post and those that followed. What part of "I won't sell to people who work full time because it never works" have I failed to comprehend?? I'm delighted that there are at least six other breeders who think differently. God knows what a potential purebred puppy buyer is going to make of "80% of breeders won't sell to working homes". Way to drive them into the arms of BYBs and petshops Jed.