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from what i can find out, its ONE PETITIONER n thats legal. seems hes pissed someone off or they think he has. dangerous thing to do in the dog fraternity as i can vouch for., as i and my dog learned to our cost $1,100 all up to retstor string back to health from seizure by the rspca, bill for their testing then to my vet to save from the pnemonia acquired at rspca n torn trachea before finally comming home from his vets care. wouldnt wish that on anyone. ummm save maybe a few "ethical's" that think sending the dogs of war is acceptable against anyone u dont like

Ta, I better start reading all those backed up digests. i too was pretty confused by the letter. i discovered today that if anyone is sending them in, they are NOT TO FILL OUT the bit at the top, ie. Part (A) if you intend it as your vote you fill out the part under the word "OR" then fill in part (B) with how you wish to vote. if youve filled in part (A) and then part (B) its invalid. (soo if you actually want your vote to count then you have to get another copy and do it right.. have fun folks) and will not be counted. from my enquiries it was 1 person who made the complaint not one hundred. interesting eh? even more interesting, the dogs of war have been unleashed. ie the rspca sent by the usual "annonamous" party.... sweet eh, to see that the practice among elements of the membership is still using the rspca to "get" anyone they decide they dont like... such a lovely bunch of backbiters there are among our ho so sweet bunch of self proclaimed "ethicals" so busily self preening pity they are too stupid to realise the fox doesnt care which or how many it kills, all of em will be the end result of sucking up to the govt and giving more and more power to abuse, isnt it weird how so few think they are under threat? judy guard has found out the hard way, n despite all the pleadings for needing more power, as its been stated before, the power to seize and destroy by any inpsector who "forms the opinion" this needs to be done has been in force for over 20 years. they just dont use it very often because they dont want the chickens to twig how much 'power' they already have while begging for more, adding 'exhibiting' as a crime they must have been rubbing their hands together on that one. ha the dog world, sometimes i wonder whos the more savage, the canine variety or the sapien, at least the canine does its own biting, the sapiens seem to prefer to send others to do the attack work

warrens are self contained units, even along a massive fenceline there will be separations between clusters of holes so they can't get too far. The ferrets are so driven by the smell of the rabbit they stay down the hole and keep running about until the smell subsides (ie their own scent and urine covers it, they scent mark as they run about) and then when it's over they womble out of the holes and snuffle around. They do get a prey reward, when they come when called I offer them a dead rabbit to latch onto. We do a lot of the recall work at home, you call them and when they come back you give them a big scrub-a-dub and some some raw food, same goes when you feed them, condition them to the noise. Pretty much the same as training a really high driven working line dog. Except when it's over they're happy to just shut down until the next scent patch gets them going. Plus the great thing .... ferrets eye sight is pretty bad, they're short sighted creatures so they want to follow their nose down the hole more then spotting something halfway across the paddock and bounding after it As long as you have some fresh food or at least some blood stain on your shoe you can lure them hey... ive found if mine are no where in sight and i want em quick, scrunch some cellophane paper or scrunchy noisy plastic they come flying should i admit! kids ev let em out by forgeting to lock the doors? so discover cages empty n not a ferret in sight? only lost one using the crinkle call. n he was i discovered too far away to hear it...yes we did find him eventually 600 mtrs down the paddock curled up asleep.

found this link it doesnt mention a b or c but it has a box down the bottom with the explainations anyway http://www.optigen.com/opt9_test_prcd_pra.html

pra A no gene for pra present. pra B one gene for pra present. i suspect pra C.. two genes present. the dog will develop blindness? guessing im afraid. but anyway however its labled if they have two for it they will get it. a friends bitch had it although in those days there were no tests for it. her son went blind at 8. not that it seemed to slow him down much. he knew his way round the yard so well n he made it to 16, although they couldnt put something new in the yard or he would run into it. as for his mum, she eventually went blind herself at nearly 15 but as she died 4 weeks later it wasnt really a issue. im talking over 20 years ago. but an a or b pup no problems

the other question that immediately sprang to mind is your vet prescribing sufficient dosage of the vit K for the past patients? to lose em all is a worry to me having lost a friend to warfarin, (many people are on it) trouble is they have to be sooo careful) in his case he had a fall and cut himself, by the time he got back to the house to call for help it was too late.

and the saddest thing i ever heard? A judge boasting that he could "take a camel and make it a champion" what is he saying about the intregrety and/or inteligance of those who would put up his "camel" ? I know he meant it that he was such a good showman he could title anything on the end of his lead. but he seemed totaly unaware of what he was saying about his fellow judges. n since ive seen "camels" shown and win. the boast wasnt an idle one the biggest trouble of couse is said "camels" become studs or broods, not to mention the soo many on the sidelines either thinking this is what the breed standard is, n never knowing better... or those who think,,, ive had this and walk....or those who think well if this is the standard got to go with the flow or miss out. in every instance the breed and the breed standard is the loser.

n from what ive seen it cuts both ways. stick to your guns and breed what you believe knowing full well its a waste of your time to show as you are not following the flavour of the day, month or year. or breed and show whats wanted NOW. since it seems the majority of show breeders feel they have to follow fashion or they dont get awarded soooo... its not just the breeder to blame. if they want the coveted ribbon they feel they have to deliver what the judges are awarding. n so true about judges not worrying about that it takes to breed. some of the worst pups ive run on were under the advice of judges who said what they thought were the best pup in the litter... the same pups 9 months on? uuuuggghh but then they were "judging them on the day" goes to show "on the day" doesnt mean its going to mature into what you want as an adult. did make me wonder a little how many litters the judges i asked had actually raised from weaning to adult so knew what looked like this usually maturees into, that?

we had a litter of feral kittens/cats, too old to be called kittens really moved in. i had rat bait out and nxt thing i know all the baits gone, shed full of green cat poops and two months on all the kittens are still heale and hearty, then to add insult to injury our daughters pony opened the door somehow and finished off the bucket of the stuff, stomped it and popped the lid off. panic stations, n the vet laughed??? she too is ok a year down the track but i so know how bad u feel lucky ponies are soooo big compared to the target species

sad isnt it. the rscpa are begging for more power so they can "rescue" but didnt give a rats here. n you of course have no place to lodge an appeal or complaint the rspca are not showing their so called duty of care are they? n no where you can lodge a complaint about them not doing their job. let alone those who like ruth downey can appeal when they go over the top above and beyond in her case nuff said eh

Heights for Australian Cattle Dogs Height: Dogs 46-51 cms (approx. 18-20 ins) at withers Bitches 43-48 cms (approx. 17-19 ins) at withers asal they not meant to be a tall dog. lol they wernt meant to be the height of a corgi either . n what i saw in 1974 was couldnt believe it when they showed me their papers and were australian champions to boot apparently it was the fashion at the time she said judges were wanting them small and nuggety. n i looked and wondered now they are back to the dogs i grew up with, thank goodness remember in the 80's think it was 89? penrith show, a couple there were so wide between the ears when i put a hand on ones head. neither side of my hand was touching an ear. when i commented to my vet his reply then was they are so going for the wider and wider heads, im now getting more cattle bitches in for ceaser than chihuahua's now. so much for improving em,,, straight to the ceaser table they never had heads that wide in the 60's n i notice in 2010 they arent as wide as i saw at that penrith show, nice to see the wide drive has slowed or hopefully stopped?.

dont think she is at all happy with what ive told the puppys breeder LOL but yes come to think of it there were midget cattledogs in the 1974's saw em looked like blue corgies and they were aust champs a neighbour at bringelly had 3 of em didnt come halfway up to my knee to me a cattle dog u have to bend to pat is undersize LOL n no im not tall defianatly a shortie

the pic of the PBGV is just what it looks like. nnnnnn just learned a neighbour has a duschund????? so? could it affect with just one parent? or would the mum still have to be a carrier as well? will be really interesting as it grows to see if it does end up looking like a duschund x cattle at birth they all looked identical soo some sluthing to do

u read my mind..... although sure looks like a purebred? welllll till u hit the forelegs

You're assuming that such dogs have a social bond with their owners - some do not. Keep a dog on a chain, fail to socialise and train it and the dog simply regards you as a food source not 'pack' Dogs that haven't had boundaries put on them and that have the right potential temperament can attack when thwarted. The few facts available don't lend themselves to any analysis of this attack I'm afraid. :cool: exactly, we had a neighbour who never trained his dog in any way. just fed him and never said no not matter how outrageous his behaviour. he woud jump up demanding to be patted, n if i dont because he was hurting me and told him to sit down he would snarl and snap at me. yet if i said nothing he would be tearing my clothes with his claws as he jumped all over me. i dreaded finding him in my yard n he was forever getting out and comming over. eventually he began biting his owners as well, at first it was just play biting but by the time he was 3 it was getting so he would grab his owner by the arm to make him drop his food faster until his clothes were torn and skin broken. he still made no attempt to train the dog not too. finally he disappeared and they said they gave him awy. to my horror they said his new owner was going to use him to breed "guard" dogs? maulers more like it i would think he had serious attitude and lack of a definate no, just made him worse. often wonder if i had tried could i have gained his respect but he frightned me, he really hurt when he went for u so i just took to the house and rang the neighbour when he got into my yard i imagine if a stranger actually entered his yard no amount of spray or tazers would have made that one back off, he would have become angrier and angrier would be my guess by his behaviour when thawarted at my place. he would go from furious over the top friendly, to savage and biting in a blink of an eye

ho yay inspector rex is on

thanks, i will give her a ring and tell her. except for the legs she looks quite normal in every other way i did feel the shoulders and joints and all felt normal. it was the actual leg bones betwen elbow and joint that are weirdly bent, never seen anything like it, save a litter of mini duchunds i saw once, remember their breeder saying it was the same gene that shortens bassets n dandi dinmonts. but in a cattle dog? totally weird

No, I understand that Steve. Living so close to these people, and owning a number of dogs myself, of course it's not great to know that there are people stealing someone else's pups almost literally under my nose. I guess I just hate seeing these people looking so concerned in the paper when (call me cynical) to me these dogs are just a money making machine for them. They are not the most well-looked after dogs in the neighbourhood put it that way. so the theives can say they were "rescuing them" can they? the reason my two stolen chipped pups were not sold by the theives for 3 months was because they had picked up kennel cough from the vets when they went for their first vaccinatios, in the case of fire, she was so ill when she was stolen the vet thought her chances of survial without her medication was nil... so major upset there, bad enough you cant take puppies for their first shots without having to run the risk of them being infected at the surgery without then then being stolen on top of that. n to spare u deciding the vet must be a shonk.... considering a large percentage of dogs that go to a vet ARE there because they are sick, vaccinating pups is risky. their vet was karen hedburg n no ive never seen a vet with two waiting rooms. one for vaccinations and a sepearte one for the sickies? have u? n when they were found and the theives arrested, what did they say to police? shes the one should be arrested, they were so sick we had to keep them for months before we could sell them,,, she should be charged with cruelty!!!!!!! like what the? they didnt know they were sick, they didnt pinch them to "save them" they would have been well in a few weeks instead of the months the poor things had to suffer before they were recovered enough to be sold on. the husband is a professional house breaker, they showed me. six pages of rap sheet! n 3 arrest warrants out for him n no they didnt take either of them to a vet, they managed to survive without any of their medication, tough little girls. sooo like steve, you saying they are puppy farmers so being robbed is ok, aint on for me either these types can be seen weekly crusing our streets, hubby spotted two suspicious looking ones went down our neighbours driveway and wrote down the number plate. rang the police and the number was fake.... even more interestig.. when attending campbelltown courthouse for the sentencing of our puppies theives, who did we see among the throng at the courthouse? the pair hubby had seen with the fake number plates.. soo they come a fair way to work each day. dont rob in their own backyard so to speak

My puppies were taken at 4 weeks and I dont chip them until 6 weeks so mine never came home. your not alone there sadly. i lost the chocolate and tan full sister to my friends Zeus along with a cream boy, they were only 4 and 5 weeks old. even knew who took them as my neighour saw her leaving my place and had the number plate writtend down. but the police wouldnt do anything. all i got was "lady, we are searching for a missing child and your going on about two puppies? " even found out her name and address but still couldnt get anything done, 4 years on she still had them but then moved so no idea where they are now, they would be 9 now, at least i know she kept them and they were seeminly well cared for, although i gather she was breeding from her and selling the pups, n no they werent microchipped.

friend has a 3 week litter. one pup is weird. the main leg bone of the forelegs are bowed outwards. like you expect in a duschund? except this pup is a cattle dog?? any ideas whats going on, its half the size of its littermates now although was same size at birth. i can fit my thumb in the curveature. the bone is certainly thick and strong. doesnt feel or look rickety, strong as and a real goer is going to take it to the vet just in case just wondering is there a dwafe gene in aust cattle dogs?

it took 3 months but my stolen microchipped pups were finally found and came home my vet told me of one that was found 3 years after he was stolen soo chips are great

the push if your bitten works well on ferrets too. as we discovered with daughters pet one. took a while but he finally learned, bite n the bit bitten, starts trying to burrow down your throat n aint nice, comfy n downright HORRIBLE cause it wont spit out n even worse feel like your going to choke on it. worked a treat. although its so hard to remind yourself DONT PULL away. was astonished by a vet once. he accidently needle stuck himself. the reaction... besides instaniously throwing the hand as far and fast as possilble , resulting in his hitting the wall so hard looked like he might have broken a few fingers... left me wondering do you flinch that badly and violently if u get nipped? know a few of mine would think this is a real fun game in the making, neddys included,,, hunt the flying fingers... crossed him off my list. so no idea if he's learned better. what worried me, the poor pup went flying too, had to catch it in mid air???

to quote a friend who is a member of the rspca.." I received a letter asking me to get all my friends to join up. as Peta is infiltrating the rspca with the intend of taking it over." that was about 9 years ago. seemed the rspca at that time was viewing it as a hostile takeover what the odds its been or being achieved now?

only last year i was asked to help "rehome " some pedigree doggies. sorry was told they were "pedigree" but that had nothing to indicate who even bred them not even a receipt when i had them scanned, no chips these were adults some 5 or 6 years old....looked like purebreds? soooo who bred em they had been bought from a friend of a friend

seems maybe too many in the cc's dont realise they cant hold people to ransom for a purebred dog anyway. its not just the oodles and doodles that are being bred out there after all. n theres a lot more people breeding than the puppy farmers either n somehow suspect they will stay under the radar being hastily constructed anyway. if they aint ever chipped. or council registered they aint on the radar are they?