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the other question that immediately sprang to mind is your vet prescribing sufficient dosage of the vit K for the past patients? to lose em all is a worry to me having lost a friend to warfarin, (many people are on it) trouble is they have to be sooo careful) in his case he had a fall and cut himself, by the time he got back to the house to call for help it was too late.

and the saddest thing i ever heard? A judge boasting that he could "take a camel and make it a champion" what is he saying about the intregrety and/or inteligance of those who would put up his "camel" ? I know he meant it that he was such a good showman he could title anything on the end of his lead. but he seemed totaly unaware of what he was saying about his fellow judges. n since ive seen "camels" shown and win. the boast wasnt an idle one the biggest trouble of couse is said "camels" become studs or broods, not to mention the soo many on the sidelines either thinking this is what the breed standard is, n never knowing better... or those who think,,, ive had this and walk....or those who think well if this is the standard got to go with the flow or miss out. in every instance the breed and the breed standard is the loser.

n from what ive seen it cuts both ways. stick to your guns and breed what you believe knowing full well its a waste of your time to show as you are not following the flavour of the day, month or year. or breed and show whats wanted NOW. since it seems the majority of show breeders feel they have to follow fashion or they dont get awarded soooo... its not just the breeder to blame. if they want the coveted ribbon they feel they have to deliver what the judges are awarding. n so true about judges not worrying about that it takes to breed. some of the worst pups ive run on were under the advice of judges who said what they thought were the best pup in the litter... the same pups 9 months on? uuuuggghh but then they were "judging them on the day" goes to show "on the day" doesnt mean its going to mature into what you want as an adult. did make me wonder a little how many litters the judges i asked had actually raised from weaning to adult so knew what looked like this usually maturees into, that?

we had a litter of feral kittens/cats, too old to be called kittens really moved in. i had rat bait out and nxt thing i know all the baits gone, shed full of green cat poops and two months on all the kittens are still heale and hearty, then to add insult to injury our daughters pony opened the door somehow and finished off the bucket of the stuff, stomped it and popped the lid off. panic stations, n the vet laughed??? she too is ok a year down the track but i so know how bad u feel lucky ponies are soooo big compared to the target species

sad isnt it. the rscpa are begging for more power so they can "rescue" but didnt give a rats here. n you of course have no place to lodge an appeal or complaint the rspca are not showing their so called duty of care are they? n no where you can lodge a complaint about them not doing their job. let alone those who like ruth downey can appeal when they go over the top above and beyond in her case nuff said eh

Heights for Australian Cattle Dogs Height: Dogs 46-51 cms (approx. 18-20 ins) at withers Bitches 43-48 cms (approx. 17-19 ins) at withers asal they not meant to be a tall dog. lol they wernt meant to be the height of a corgi either . n what i saw in 1974 was couldnt believe it when they showed me their papers and were australian champions to boot apparently it was the fashion at the time she said judges were wanting them small and nuggety. n i looked and wondered now they are back to the dogs i grew up with, thank goodness remember in the 80's think it was 89? penrith show, a couple there were so wide between the ears when i put a hand on ones head. neither side of my hand was touching an ear. when i commented to my vet his reply then was they are so going for the wider and wider heads, im now getting more cattle bitches in for ceaser than chihuahua's now. so much for improving em,,, straight to the ceaser table they never had heads that wide in the 60's n i notice in 2010 they arent as wide as i saw at that penrith show, nice to see the wide drive has slowed or hopefully stopped?.

dont think she is at all happy with what ive told the puppys breeder LOL but yes come to think of it there were midget cattledogs in the 1974's saw em looked like blue corgies and they were aust champs a neighbour at bringelly had 3 of em didnt come halfway up to my knee to me a cattle dog u have to bend to pat is undersize LOL n no im not tall defianatly a shortie

the pic of the PBGV is just what it looks like. nnnnnn just learned a neighbour has a duschund????? so? could it affect with just one parent? or would the mum still have to be a carrier as well? will be really interesting as it grows to see if it does end up looking like a duschund x cattle at birth they all looked identical soo some sluthing to do

u read my mind..... although sure looks like a purebred? welllll till u hit the forelegs

You're assuming that such dogs have a social bond with their owners - some do not. Keep a dog on a chain, fail to socialise and train it and the dog simply regards you as a food source not 'pack' Dogs that haven't had boundaries put on them and that have the right potential temperament can attack when thwarted. The few facts available don't lend themselves to any analysis of this attack I'm afraid. :cool: exactly, we had a neighbour who never trained his dog in any way. just fed him and never said no not matter how outrageous his behaviour. he woud jump up demanding to be patted, n if i dont because he was hurting me and told him to sit down he would snarl and snap at me. yet if i said nothing he would be tearing my clothes with his claws as he jumped all over me. i dreaded finding him in my yard n he was forever getting out and comming over. eventually he began biting his owners as well, at first it was just play biting but by the time he was 3 it was getting so he would grab his owner by the arm to make him drop his food faster until his clothes were torn and skin broken. he still made no attempt to train the dog not too. finally he disappeared and they said they gave him awy. to my horror they said his new owner was going to use him to breed "guard" dogs? maulers more like it i would think he had serious attitude and lack of a definate no, just made him worse. often wonder if i had tried could i have gained his respect but he frightned me, he really hurt when he went for u so i just took to the house and rang the neighbour when he got into my yard i imagine if a stranger actually entered his yard no amount of spray or tazers would have made that one back off, he would have become angrier and angrier would be my guess by his behaviour when thawarted at my place. he would go from furious over the top friendly, to savage and biting in a blink of an eye

ho yay inspector rex is on

thanks, i will give her a ring and tell her. except for the legs she looks quite normal in every other way i did feel the shoulders and joints and all felt normal. it was the actual leg bones betwen elbow and joint that are weirdly bent, never seen anything like it, save a litter of mini duchunds i saw once, remember their breeder saying it was the same gene that shortens bassets n dandi dinmonts. but in a cattle dog? totally weird

No, I understand that Steve. Living so close to these people, and owning a number of dogs myself, of course it's not great to know that there are people stealing someone else's pups almost literally under my nose. I guess I just hate seeing these people looking so concerned in the paper when (call me cynical) to me these dogs are just a money making machine for them. They are not the most well-looked after dogs in the neighbourhood put it that way. so the theives can say they were "rescuing them" can they? the reason my two stolen chipped pups were not sold by the theives for 3 months was because they had picked up kennel cough from the vets when they went for their first vaccinatios, in the case of fire, she was so ill when she was stolen the vet thought her chances of survial without her medication was nil... so major upset there, bad enough you cant take puppies for their first shots without having to run the risk of them being infected at the surgery without then then being stolen on top of that. n to spare u deciding the vet must be a shonk.... considering a large percentage of dogs that go to a vet ARE there because they are sick, vaccinating pups is risky. their vet was karen hedburg n no ive never seen a vet with two waiting rooms. one for vaccinations and a sepearte one for the sickies? have u? n when they were found and the theives arrested, what did they say to police? shes the one should be arrested, they were so sick we had to keep them for months before we could sell them,,, she should be charged with cruelty!!!!!!! like what the? they didnt know they were sick, they didnt pinch them to "save them" they would have been well in a few weeks instead of the months the poor things had to suffer before they were recovered enough to be sold on. the husband is a professional house breaker, they showed me. six pages of rap sheet! n 3 arrest warrants out for him n no they didnt take either of them to a vet, they managed to survive without any of their medication, tough little girls. sooo like steve, you saying they are puppy farmers so being robbed is ok, aint on for me either these types can be seen weekly crusing our streets, hubby spotted two suspicious looking ones went down our neighbours driveway and wrote down the number plate. rang the police and the number was fake.... even more interestig.. when attending campbelltown courthouse for the sentencing of our puppies theives, who did we see among the throng at the courthouse? the pair hubby had seen with the fake number plates.. soo they come a fair way to work each day. dont rob in their own backyard so to speak

My puppies were taken at 4 weeks and I dont chip them until 6 weeks so mine never came home. your not alone there sadly. i lost the chocolate and tan full sister to my friends Zeus along with a cream boy, they were only 4 and 5 weeks old. even knew who took them as my neighour saw her leaving my place and had the number plate writtend down. but the police wouldnt do anything. all i got was "lady, we are searching for a missing child and your going on about two puppies? " even found out her name and address but still couldnt get anything done, 4 years on she still had them but then moved so no idea where they are now, they would be 9 now, at least i know she kept them and they were seeminly well cared for, although i gather she was breeding from her and selling the pups, n no they werent microchipped.

friend has a 3 week litter. one pup is weird. the main leg bone of the forelegs are bowed outwards. like you expect in a duschund? except this pup is a cattle dog?? any ideas whats going on, its half the size of its littermates now although was same size at birth. i can fit my thumb in the curveature. the bone is certainly thick and strong. doesnt feel or look rickety, strong as and a real goer is going to take it to the vet just in case just wondering is there a dwafe gene in aust cattle dogs?

it took 3 months but my stolen microchipped pups were finally found and came home my vet told me of one that was found 3 years after he was stolen soo chips are great

the push if your bitten works well on ferrets too. as we discovered with daughters pet one. took a while but he finally learned, bite n the bit bitten, starts trying to burrow down your throat n aint nice, comfy n downright HORRIBLE cause it wont spit out n even worse feel like your going to choke on it. worked a treat. although its so hard to remind yourself DONT PULL away. was astonished by a vet once. he accidently needle stuck himself. the reaction... besides instaniously throwing the hand as far and fast as possilble , resulting in his hitting the wall so hard looked like he might have broken a few fingers... left me wondering do you flinch that badly and violently if u get nipped? know a few of mine would think this is a real fun game in the making, neddys included,,, hunt the flying fingers... crossed him off my list. so no idea if he's learned better. what worried me, the poor pup went flying too, had to catch it in mid air???

to quote a friend who is a member of the rspca.." I received a letter asking me to get all my friends to join up. as Peta is infiltrating the rspca with the intend of taking it over." that was about 9 years ago. seemed the rspca at that time was viewing it as a hostile takeover what the odds its been or being achieved now?

only last year i was asked to help "rehome " some pedigree doggies. sorry was told they were "pedigree" but that had nothing to indicate who even bred them not even a receipt when i had them scanned, no chips these were adults some 5 or 6 years old....looked like purebreds? soooo who bred em they had been bought from a friend of a friend

seems maybe too many in the cc's dont realise they cant hold people to ransom for a purebred dog anyway. its not just the oodles and doodles that are being bred out there after all. n theres a lot more people breeding than the puppy farmers either n somehow suspect they will stay under the radar being hastily constructed anyway. if they aint ever chipped. or council registered they aint on the radar are they?

is the little person beside the sign, you? don't look that happy. im not. why should i be,,, what is wrong with people, seems u go to a dog show and they are all in their little tents busy backstabbing everyone or someone in another tent. n then wonder why newbies keep walking? who wants to join in that? ive known many want to show, so go, but it finally gets them down and they stop going. as for encouraging newbies....... gee i cant count the number of people who have rang in tears......wanted a pup.... would like to try showing...but hey .... how dare you want a main registered pup. no longer welcome like it used to be 30, 40 yrs ago. n of course the best one now, any breeder mug enough to sell one with main registration can expect that "perfect" puppy back post haste for a refund. preferably full n costs of having raised it till its adult teeth have come in. its getting into adulthood and :eek: :eek: its not as perfect as it was as a puppy. so now its supposed to be not a registration that means u can show and breed from your puppy when it grows up. its apparently now a guarantee it will become an australian champion? :laugh: considering many breeders i know have run on up to 4 pups at a time to finally decide which is the best after all the maturity changes have kicked in when did this idea that main registration become a guarantee . only recently was lulled into letting an ex showi have a pup , just for fun, just want to get back into showing, yes i know love they can change and end up too .big or too small or the teeth can not come back in same as now..... well hes back. didnt mature good enough. teeth went out sooo the gallery told her return it, its not good enough, you were ripped offf. considering she had some half dozen advisers when choosing a pup. they arent to blame they were not 100 percent right about their choice. its the ooorrrible shonky breeder. n with that sort of mentality why would anyone risk handing over a main register pup any more. even without all the new wonder rules being slammed on everyone now? the members are their own enemies. if you do not encourage newbies, were will the next generation to take up the challenge come from? if you only breed to replace for your own kennels theres precious little contribution to "the breed" as a whole going on. this internal mindset descruction began some 20 years ago although i noticed the beginnings of it from the first day i took my first pup to a show so we are only watching the culmination of decades of self deception. interesting the figures of 60,000 purebred puppies registered to the estimated 1 MILLION BORN ANNUALLY..... so who bred the 940,000 others? ;) do u seriously think they all came from puppy farms? from my looking and asking theres hundreds of thousands of families who have kept their own "lines" of totally unregistered breeds going for centuaries without ever becoming a member of a canine council or ever have a officially pedigreed dog. just look at one for example, the german coolie has been a highly regarded breed in this country for ONLY a few hundred years. are any in a recognised pedigree Canine Council? NOPE soo what do we see recently, the introduction of the importation of the american registered "Australian Shepherd" same doggie kids n where did they come from? arrived in the good old us of a along with a consignment of sheep from where???? Australia..... as i foolishly asked in 1978,,, but everyone has a back yard? if you eliminate backyarders you eliminate yourself? the wheel is turning and its just about to complete its rollover looks to me anyway.... no cc's no pedigree dogs. the survivors will be the likes of the tens of thousands of purebreeds that are still and will be bred in their thousands by people who never registered theirs. i know from asking, over 99 percent of blue cattles i see, when i ask who bred it, it didnt come from a registered breeder. who won this unwinnable race? search me

YES IF nature only gave them one pup to choose from they have to accept it. well thats what i was told by breeders that actually get to select from litters of 8 to 18. yet when i suggested in the case of some of my bitches the 6 litter rule meant i get to choose from 6 pups in her lifetime wanting more to choose from is puppy farming. well from where it sit if those who told me that then if your bitch gave u 8 to 18, then there s no need for even a second litter or your puppy farming but hey, its nice to be able to sit on a fence and criticise others, one thing about the dog world, everyone has an opinion and its always ethical if its yours n anyone that disagrees is what?? :D unethical, of course silly.

really makes the case that the majority of dog breeders are not too intelliegent doesnt it? but hey... pay up....u may be dumb.....BUT U ARE SUPERIOUR :D

if she were a horse id be giving her a dose of parrafin oil, shoots anything straight through. better to be phoning the vet i think

am i sad this train wreak has happend, yes, but i couldnt figure how to get many to see it for the wreak in the making. maybe being blind, like the precious, is the better way. far less distressing when u cant see or realise your heading for, let alone, in, the kill pen. ummm whats the odds, 90 percent wouldnt have a clue what moi is talking about would they?