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WTF??? So what does the Dane Breeder do with the other 1/2 a litter? get a fine for every pup he/she produces over said limit? naturally. if theres going to be so much less breeders there has to be some way to keep fees comming in surely n what about the toy breeds with one or two pups? but as i was told once before when the number of litters was passed and asked what about if u have a one pup one litter mum? thats only produced 6 boys to date. that to want another chance at a girl is only puppy farming. so ..... surely anyone that cant find their one to keep in a litter of 10 has no excuse to need a second litter surely? in my case my girl had "litter" 7 luckily before the rule came in and bingo have my long awaited bitch puppy. yay. do i care it made me a puppy farmer? couldnt give a rats anymore. let em legistlate emselves out of business, thats whats its going to come too. they wont be able to afford the rates or the rent or whatever it costs to stay at erskin park if the incoming rules end up so few to register the income just will no longer be there to pay for it and staff. why should a breeder of a big litter breed be able to have 20 pups n more pups to the one bitch n not be labled puppy farmer yet a small litter breeder is? ive a friend whose golden retriver had 32 pups in her first two litters she had 5 litters in her lifetime. u do the maths. she never had less than 14 pups.

good grief moriarty, never suspected my cattle dog, cavalier or chi was in fact a pitt bull this is serious

Steve Ive sent u a pm

yes all of the above can happen, n i too have seen the chips pop back out, weird really. had one pup yes we finally found the chip, but who would have thought a chip could end up at the base of an ear?????? another has it now half and inch below their left elbow?????

hey thanks, only just dropped in to see if anything was doing n there u are. much appreciated. at this rate ill end up with a mailbox full of applications as ive already contacted the first one, then the second n now it looks like ill be busy tomorrow too

if theres one thing a border collie can be obsessed about is "working" some if there is nothing to work will make up their own. our neighbour had over an acre of fenced in lawn for his two and they ran themselves ragged regardless of the weather. i remember one summer the male was fitting on the ground. they called us in panic and considering it was some 113 deg F. i turned on the hose and saturated him and within 5 minutes he was up and off again. in his case i think he thought he was rounding up the birds as they flew over the place as for anything that actually landed. he and his mum would be stalking and trying to herd them. then when they flew off they would be running stupid again looking for the next bird it seemed to be and yes no birds they just ran patterns. we had one as a kid and he was a nighmare jumping out and rounding up the kids on the way to school. his record was 15 too scared to get to the bus stop. when my chooks got out, problem solved he spent all day eyeing them from one part of the yard to the other. happy dog, disgusted chooks. if the rooster got sick of him he would attack the border and pull chunks of hair out of him, stupid bird nearly choked himself one day when neiger was moulting.

your not kidding thanks so much

many thanks, i just KNEW someone here would know

have a litter want to get perantage verified my vet gave me the number of the dept of ag victoria. they dont do it any more. so anyone know who does? thanks in advance

What is a Judges role and responsibilities? sorry deleted the rest of the question. been advised this should be addressed to the board in question not aired in public. soo if you want and like goss, head for the nearst dog show ;) :cheer: :)

my friend went through this nightmare. after most of the litter was already dead and demanded the vet put them on antibiotics since they had no idea and figured what was there to lose, and bingo the deaths stopped. ok never knew why but it worked, soo wont hurt to ask, well in her case demanded.

you sound like my daughter, Jed do as u please although some aloe to stop the itching might help? only my second post on this thread, i just couldnt, too upset for you to play. think grief affects everyone differently. soo glad for you, hugs by the thousand. thrilled your better

its horses too, theres an add on an australian site for a fresian gelding for 1,000. isp number puts the seller in i forget right now which overseas country . n who else remebers the chihuahua's being sold NOT by some one is Melbourne? a few years ago?

know someone lost their dog in the wilds of mendooran. had forgot to finish their puppys shots n thought were safe anyway no dogs in miles of their place. as my vet said, it blows in the wind.

hey thanks. yes it was at night, n there was a bowl of food he was eating when i walked past. ive came often at night before no problem. but never when food was around that i can recall. although he seemed in a general all round bad mood. as he also rolled and really threatened the owners really old boxer who wasnt doing anything to warrant it. n he was nowwhere near the food when he copped it, the boxers owner had to tell him to leave him alone, he wasnt going to let the boxer get up until she yelled at him.

thanks all, i had a feeling borrowng a cattle prod could be more dangerous than doing nothing, but ive got to the stage im afraid now. n my gut instinct is this is not going to end well if i go there while no one is there. much as i hate to let my friend down i dont think i can face it. thanks for helping me formulate what had been just a bad feeling but couldnt get my head round. well maybe dont like the idea of admitting fear. ive never been bitten by a dog despite growing up with a yard full of savage dogs, my dad used to deliberately advertise for wanting to buy savage dogs. as he had a yard where stuff would walk overnight otherwise. soo from childhood learned not to attract their guard tendencies. heck in a couple of months id made pets of most of em. n he used to buy em as fully grown adults, foaming at the mouth on arrival? know this dog from a pup? but this boy it aint working as of this week . normally if i strike a dog on guard i back out of its boundary area n alls well, but this guy has included her place as his boudary area sooo i cant enter and check if im backing off the place can i?

as luck would have it he was home and i immediately went and showed him my hat, not only dented but covered in saliva so looked pretty full on attacked. he didnt seem to understand that to me this was serious, he thought it was funny he drooled on my hat That's terrible. :D did you mention that he bit you? yes, told him i felt every tooth and was terrified he was going to sink them in but didnt. was very afraid the next time he would carry out the threat but he obviously thought i was overreacting as he just didnt seem to understand at all this was just short of outright attack that could land me in hospital :D

as luck would have it he was home and i immediately went and showed him my hat, not only dented but covered in saliva so looked pretty full on attacked. he didnt seem to understand that to me this was serious, he thought it was funny he drooled on my hat

thats exactly what ive been doing and all seemed fine as well that is until this weekend, but this has me scared now. n remember hes known me from a pup? n his behavour towards me has been to ignore me once he saw it was me come out of the car. was there when some strangers drove in the wrong gate by mistake and he went ballastic, they were so terrified they wound up the wondows and fled . so his behavour towards me as up until now been ok. n im talking some 3 years now so why the change?

no thats whats freaking me out, much more chance of winning lotto than seeing anyone at home nxt door

problem is talking rural area hundred acre properties and just cattle fences. no chance its job is to protect the stock, sheep, chooks, geese and calves only its decided its job is to guard both properties come to think of it probably thats how it started, the neighbours geese just love the bigger dam on my friends place soo where the geese go so does the dog

hard to figure what to say. friend is going away on a holiday and i had agreed to go around to check everythings ok at their place for them. their neighbour has a maremma, its known me since the neighbours bought it. it accepts i know its name and when it threatens to attack, i say his name and he calms down, but now its 3 its becoming more agressive, it can access my friends place as it can walk through the fences and it regards both places as its territory. it has bitten i belive some people, but not sure how hard, no one had made a complaint so probably like my hat, grabbed but no damage yet? seems to go for your hands, i keep mine in my pockets and been ok, until now. the other day as i walked past it, fortunately carrying my hat, it suddenly growled and went for my hand and i kept the hat between it and my hand, it grabbed the hat hard enough to squash the hat against my hand and leave dints in it but not bite through the hat. later as i went to walk back to my car it again bounced its feet, growled and went for my hands so quickly buried them in my pockets so he went behind me and bit my butt but didnt penetrate the material although i could feel his teeth. i froze and didnt move until he still growling under his breath finally stalked away and permitted me to walk to my car. im now afraid of what could happen if i go to this persons place when no one is home and this dog is on the property. he is a very big powerful dog and i think im afraid of him now. up to now ive been able to call my friend to call the dog off as he does obey her if grudgingly, he does obey her better than his real owner it seems to me he thinks she is his leader rather than the man who does actually own him? until now i could enter her place when she wasnt home. tell him to go home and he would. now to me anyway i think he has decided im not allowed , even if he knows me and once obeyed me. would carrying a cattle prod to touch him with if he went for me again discourage him or make him really attack? my fear is he would tear me to bits if really angry. hes big enough and the neighbour is rarely at home so no help from that quarter either. not happy

Ho Steve i cant believe such a thing could have happened, no i dont want to believe it. i just cant read the thread. every time i try the tears just wont let me. the worst is she will cope, we have too, all i find myself asking is why should she have too, such things shouldnt happen to good people, but why does such awful things happen . its times like this i say dreadful things to the Lord. I hope she can feel all my/our love flowing her way, so many people admire her so, including me. my darling stringy has crossed the rainbow maybe they are all together. hugs sandy

they are put in the position of either plead guilty or we will bankrupt you, trouble is they then do so anyway, i saw what they did to marion alcorn. once your pleaded guilty its all downhill anyway. check out the megalong story, now where is that link, plead guilty or...... so plead guilty n end up with paying think it was $50,000? http://www.megalong.cc/RSPCA/The%20RSPCA%20EXperience1.htm http://www.megalong.cc/RSPCA/ http://www.youtube.com/user/BlueMountains4Horses http://www.megalong.cc/RSPCA/The%20RSPCA%2...e-Jellybean.htm found this one one ruth downey. the inspector sent the truck laden with feed back to the produce then proceed to shoot her cattle leaving her the calves to raise? http://www.sosnews.org/pdf/The-Ruth-Downey-Inquisition.pdf

how nice. no wonder us mere mortals have no defence against em. have to admit been hoping for quite a while they would do a stuff up against a really high up pollie. pity the poor koala had to die, but murdering skippys best friend may have woken someone up how long before they go back to sleep n forget all about it again is the worry