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yes many have no idea of breed, or behaviour either for that matter. a friend told me her dog was brutally attacked in her own car when she opened the door a pit bull jumped into the car and attacked him. I visited the house where the "attack" occurred and the neighbours 6 month old English bull terrier puppy (the ones with the big Roman nose, came hurtling through the fence to say hi! its colour and markings matched the description of the "pit bull terrier" I had been told about. she was only an over enthusiastic baby and obviously would help a burglar carry out the furniture, just like my aunts bull terriers. Everyones new best friend. Well to humans. once older any ones dog challenge one of my aunts to a fight was not a wise dog. Hence my aunt made sure her fences were secure and always on lead when she want walking with them, Neither of her dogs were aggressive to other dogs. but if they were attacked they did fight back, as good as they got.

the facts are any breed bred for fighting are more effective in dispatch. Any breed bred for hunting and killing vermin are more effective in dispatch. the other fact is. Dogs are completely unaware its not acceptable to kill . be it a chook, a cat, or another dog that triggers an attack response. I came home one day to find my cavalier looking very proud of herself! Yes she had killed. the body of the brown snake proudly brought to me. I had completely forgotten, what are spaniels bred for? Hunting, Her instincts had not. I also know a friend had 4 Cavalier King Charles. came home to find one dead. Examination proved she had been killed by one or more of the other 3. their shocked owner was greeted at the gate by three wagging tails and happy smiles. obviously they felt no guilt over the demise of no 4. so many people are utterly shocked when a killing happens at a dog park! Frankly its a statement of how well behaved the majority are, that so few occur. That teenager who killed those 18 children knew what he did was reprehensible but he still did it. No dog knows that. May be disciplined if it shows aggression, but that's only if you happen to be present and can there to say NO! Along with your dog obeys. Many are very poorly trained fur children, its so fortunate how few attacks happen in relation to the hundreds of thousands who do not do so. do you really think you dog understands "tho shalt not kill?" if dogs that grew up together can kill one of the group, why on earth should anyone be surprised when mixing dogs that dont even know each other can lead to an attack? which is why I do not use dog parks I have never been a fan of Russian roulette

gee one vet practice, that's had enough. Desert Cross Veterinary Hospital pretoof 3a5131Mu0903:5am71 yll t · Dear Dog Owners, This week I have seen post after post after post on the veterinary social media pages about the struggle with larger breed dogs that are undisciplined and fearful and trying to bite at staff and veterinarians. Half of the posts stated that they, the vet, were going to stop seeing any large breed dogs, some of them said that they were going to fire all clients who had dogs that were not well controlled, others said that they were starting to refuse service to dogs that growled or tried to bite or got freaked out when they tried to examine them. Clients, this is a huge problem and it is your problem and let's be real, it is your fault. Dogs are NOT children or humans and we need to stop treating them like they are. They are animals! They do not learn by being coddled and babied and allowed to get away with whatever they feel like doing. It does not work that way in the animal kingdom. If you are a little shit of a dog your mom or some older dog is going to bite your head off to teach you! Once that puppy leaves its mom, you now become the teacher and trainer of what is and what is not acceptable behavior and if you don't, you and you alone are ruining your dog! Dogs need discipline! They are like your kids! They need you to teach them, to train them, to discipline them so they learn what is and what is not acceptable. I can not tell you the number of times I have been in an exam room and a dog is growling at me and the owner does nothing. In fact, often times they pull back from the dog and they always get that sheepish look and often will say, “he doesn’t bite.” The hell he doesn’t bite! He is a dog, he bites and he is going to bite me because you have not shown him who is boss and he has no fear of humans and he has no idea that being a jerk is not allowed. Please, if you love your dog, do your job and discipline them, train them, show them the proper way to behave and make sure they know that being a jerk gets them in trouble. If you do not, you will not be able to find a vet to help them when they are in need and that will be your fault and not the vets fault. No where in our oath does it say that we have to subject ourselves to being bitten by someones dog because they treated it like a human and felt sorry for it and never disciplined it and so it now has no respect for humans and bites. If you don’t start being a responsible pet owner, your dog is not going to be seen and you do not want that to happen. Do not let your dog be the top dog in your house! It is not fair to them and it is not fair to us in the veterinary profession when we have to fear for our safety in order to try and help them when they are sick. Teach them to be nice, take them to uncomfortable places, make sure they know that humans are the big dog in the relationship, that does not mean you beat them that means you show them that you are the boss by not allowing them to be jerks and get away with behaviors that they shouldn’t. Your dogs life and health depend on you being a good dog owner and raising them to be good dogs. Sincerely, Dr Debbie and Every Vet

Companions And Pets Party ndep 151t40l:5ta90a5 01My0l · This morning John Wendy Hutchison was interviewed on RSN's Saturday Morning Show, Cracking The Codes with Matt Stewart, Dan Mielicki and Simone Fisher. John's interview was very powerful and clearly articulated what is at risk for the listeners of this racing radio network. The risks they are exposed to is no different to the risks anyone who owns animals is facing One of the announcers even provided a story of how this dangerous ideology is infiltrating the education setting. I urge you all to put 30 minutes aside to listen to the interview and even consider sharing the link on your own social pages. We need to get this message out before it is too late. Scroll down the link's page until you see this morning's episode of Cracking The Codes and click on it to listen. https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fplayer.whooshkaa.com%2Frsn-saturday-mornings%3Ffbclid%3DIwAR1lS14x1CMizkDWbw_VAyM8JfFsaa8sZi7ztfUE9FyZv9YGGMAwyNdiLCg&h=AT1vB2sS6uDrIq62cP66x1HqEZsyn4_5ooZ6qZSeXsY46MG7Rgn3RsuFmuzy5jpAikzJppz5OqrKGB6AIQDQmVFakKfu_jko21T18-ptkzFl8O1HzuW8luyVtFLigc5nDWfSsSm_SA&__tn__=%2CmH-R&c[0]=AT3ohAMKsxLs9lKfMnKcXkJJttNa_3Q-BD1B2Cd821J7Sc7mdy-a-mpDAbRe6uIDLn1pN16YMMcwN-eBbR0kd4epl1qopviRwcu2zYgN7gvOmWhSbXXvnnP_GK43EHPby_t_0J1ISBLcQNJn24chp7wa88Lwg1FIEeI8nwmYTX6Ts-Z9-XVDzr52BwVXwt1jDwxJ1IHNC6RUmDVr160

The Companions And Pets Party has their new logo up. stunning. https://www.facebook.com/Companions-And-Pets-Party-105315428852161

has that only just gone to court? gee no mention of the fact ALL the dogs they didnt take had been given to rescues and all successfully rehomed. Despite the fact they had applied to the court to not only kill the dogs they took but to get a court order to seize all the rest of them, so lucky for the remaining dogs they went to the rescue before the rspca could get them and put them down too. absolute disaster for the rspca's assertion none of them could be safely rehomed. Nor would they let any they had go to the rescues to see if they could rehome them as successfuly as the others they had, public relations disaster only the rspca had problems with the dogs they took, remember the link. the rescue or rescues. forget if it was one or more begged the rspca to let them retrain the ones they wanted to kill. at the time they seized them on the grounds they would not make eye contact with the inspector. it was on tape. Found the link

Also ring and ask if the ones you like are not already taken, saves you lots of time to know first up what are not already taken. good luck

dont know about others but the link wont open for me

surely there was more to be commented on than finding "dead rats" ???????????? any dog would kill a rat, snake, mouse that showed up ? as for the number of dogs, incredible. Although to be realistic, As my vet conceded over ten years ago now, (and he HATES puppy farming) it was getting down to the wire then he believed, we will be needing the legal puppy farms will have to be that big or bigger to take up the slack for the hundreds of thousands of puppies that sure are never going to be available from the registered breeders who are not allowed to breed for the pet market.

How on earth can we get this plastered far and wide before its too late? It almost is too late " This copied from smith oats on regards to AJP policy........ “To phase out the sale of companion animals” Let that sink in a moment, as animal loving owners I think this is too important not to share Those words are from the ANIMAL JUSTIC PARTY “Phase out the sale of companion animals” do you really know what that means? It’s fabulous that they want people to adopt dogs from a shelter BUT, is your courtyard size block really a realistic home for a working dog, Bull Arab or other large breed? Are these large breeds really suitable for your 2 year old to grow up with? Can your 10 year old safely walk the dog you purchase from a shelter? The sad reality is that MOST dogs in shelters are high energy working or hunting breeds, many of which are not suitable for suburban living or a young family. “Mandate desexing at point of sale” Sounds great BUT where does your next puppy come from? If all dogs are to be desexed, in 10-15 years when your current loved house pet sadly passes away WHERE does your next pooch or cat come from? Prices will skyrocket, the current average of 5k will soon turn into 15k when the demand doesn’t meet supply. DONT let the animal justice party fool you with their gut wrenching stories of puppy farms and animal abuse cases, yes we know they exist, yes we know it happens, NO we do not agree with any of it but there are also ALOT of good breeders out there. The Animal Justice Party’s main aim is exactly what they have put in writing TO PHASE OUT THE SALE OF COMPANION ANIMALS. Please remember this post when the time comes to vote think of your sweet little dog waiting for you at home and think, a house is not a home without a dog "

surely she had more chance of an easy delivery bred to a toy than her own size? I have seen many litters with big differences in size of the puppies in many breeds, not just poodles. some mini's stay so small they are too small for the miniature ring. some toys too large for the toy ring. As for chihuahua's, unreal. a friends girl I was looking after was certainly on the large size, as in 6lb - 2.7 kg. she was beginning to look like a rock melon and expressed my concern about how big she was getting. when she did go into labor no pups were coming to raced to the vet he said she was so full of pups she just couldn't push and she had 10. believe it or not. from that litter some grew to 2.7 kg like their mum, others only to 1.2 kg, that's a huge difference in sizes. many litters do that in the small breeds more so than the larger breeds of dog I think?

interesting, many decades and I do mean many, 1960 I think? friend bred toy poodles, and I think she told me she reregistered the over height ones in the litter as miniatures? which since they are the same breed made more sense than restricting the gene pool as it is now, especially with all the concentration about maintaining genetic diversity within the breeds?

exactly, they completely forgot their very basis for existance. To ENCOURAGE AND MAINTAIN. Instead they turned on each other to eliminate and discourage the majority in their zeal to be seen to be eliminating back yard breeders which all of them are? I keep remembering my friends words only recently. we are both long. long long time members from the days when newbies were welcomed instead of viewed with suspicion. no i better not repeat what she said come to think of it. last time I did I received a letter from the ankc it had been brought to their notice had had committed an offense. sigh not safe to speak too much of the truth anymore

Yes, they fell into line with the AR nutters early on just would not understand that everyone has a backyard so began eliminating each other from the get go

Looks like some in america are waking up too? People have finally began to realise we only have 5 years before its too late. PETA ARE CELEBRATING with good reason Companion and Pets Party is hoping its not to late to save our pets from the extinction campaign is calling for applications to join. This is their facebook page. https://www.facebook.com/groups/1880909738963642 this is the site to apply to join . membership at the moment is free. https://companionsandpetsparty.com.au/?fbclid=IwAR0P1mXvlucuh21wXXLIp_j4L3lMWd0h4kySKzCy69E6rcUvgGIttcWzztU

the problems are the ones who never train their fur child as they dont want to restrict its options or 'traumatise" it by setting boundaries well remember a neighbour who never said NO to his dog. I could see it was running all the decisions but it all came to a head the day the dog decided he was not dropping his food fast enough and bit him clean through the arm. for some strange reason he got rid of the dog after the second "attack?" He failed to understand his dog had warned him, drop it now or else at the second growl! I learnt fast when he began jumping on me and tearing my clothes, if I told him to stop, he would then discipline me by biting and really ripping my clothes instead of tearing them with his nails. I made sure he could not get into my place anymore. he had also taken to biting my horse on the nose, but my horse soon taught him to back off after almost caving in his head with a hoof. fixing the fence solved my and my horses risk.

very dissappointing

good point, wonder if peta will join up and take over like they did the rspca? well remember in 2000 reading a letter received by an rspca member begging her to join up all her friends and family for the pending agm as the writer was aware that sufficen peta members were already on the board and the comming agm was being stacked by peta members to elect the remaining numbers to take control of the board. that was now 22 years ago. peta have been working on their agenda from the 1980's while pet owners have been asleep at the wheel

ooo wow they have decided on a name and now are taking membership applications, wonder if they can muster enough candidates for the comming election in time? considering how many have pets AND if all voted be looking at forming a government. ok dream on BUT! https://www.facebook.com/groups/1880909738963642 ah. bummer. two months wait to be recognised. thats too late this this election isnt it? "We need everyone to visit the website www.companionsandpetsparty.com.au and join the party. It is free to join. We need every member of the facebook group to join up. Without your support by joining the party, we cannot become registered. It takes about two months from the time we submit our application to become registered. So please fill out the application form as soon as you can. Thank you."

This chap totally nailed it Alfonso Hurtado Guzman 92tS5u0po53 Aspfril at 00ce:43h3 ·

Another equally misleading article actually. this writer advocates COI testing and only using unrelated parents where at all possible will reduce, perhaps eliminate the risk of creating homozygous puppies of the as yet unavailable dna testing for the thousands of recessive genes still to be found markers for. the writer is assuming unrelated parents will not be carrying deleterious recessives. the writer is assuming only related parents will be carrying deleterious recessives so is buying into the mantra that "inbreeding" is the cause of any emergence of such results in a litter. when will it become recognised that two patterns of a gene in a pup is not automatically caused by "inbreeding" related parents? anyway read and have a good think about the message because it does bring up how many conditions there still is no tests for yet. https://www.instituteofcaninebiology.org/blog/why-dna-tests-wont-make-dogs-healthier?fbclid=IwAR0HFMIh6D9cc8Ld54EVLcs8YBmCqUAfVPTxxZy0eaHb6n-0duib0t8IiMo .

love cav's they are the eternal optimist. once you have had one its definitely addictive, but remember they aren't great on recall and utterly no traffic sense so never go out without being on a lead. you can be lucky and have no problems, my first made it to 17 as did many of his sons and daughters. but every time you use an outside male its a gamble that at times does not pay off. my last two I bred both developed MV at 7. one is still fine 4 years later on medication. the other died within weeks After two pups developed SM I called it quits. I so hope it can be eliminated from such adorable dogs. if you get one, keep an eye on their teeth too. great tarter collectors so need regular checks

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thanks, so good news for the cavalier component in the pup and 9% joint issues in early done poodles. be interesting to know which breed contributed the merle gene to her pup. As for the $7,000 price tag. shows x breeds are fetching way more than most purebreds poodle puppies are listed here at "Boys $3,500.00 and girls $3,900.00" and cavalier at "The cost of the puppies is $4000" " $4500 - limited register (pet only)" very few actually give a price. But others I have met paid $5,000 for their pet, so it seems obvious puppy farmed x breds are commanding better prices. Met a lady at our local vet and she had paid $7,000 and 8,000 for her two cavoodles and they were the usual colours expected of the x

my niece paid $7,000 for a so called Blue Merle Cavoodle. as any ankc breeders knows, there is no merle gene in either the poodle or cavalier breeds. last I looked the only place oodels come from is puppy farms? it was only 8 weeks old and already been desexed male so will not grow normally as it should as it will never experience puberty google explains how high the vet problems that occur with puppies done too young.