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A NOTE ABOUT TICK-BORNE DISEASES, AND WHY CHEMICALS LIKE BRAVECTO, NEXGARD, ETC., DO NOT PREVENT THEM : We have seen a lot of our members posting about concern regarding tick disease transmission (Lyme disease, Ehrlichiosis, Anaplasmosis, Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever, Babesiosis, Bartonellosis, and Hepatozoonosis) to their dogs. We have also seen a lot of our members mention that their vets suggest Bravecto, Nexgard, Simparica, etc., to prevent tick-related illness. In many cases, that is why some of our members purchased these products in the first place. But please note — the only way these chemicals work on ticks is as follows: The tick attaches to your dog, and the chemical flea/tick "preventative" that your dog has taken eventually kills the tick. According to petsandparasites.org, disease transmission is as follows: "Ticks attach to your dog by inserting their mouthparts into your dog's skin. Many ticks also produce a sticky, gluelike substance that helps them to remain attached. After attaching to your dog, ticks begin feeding on your dog's blood. The places where ticks attach can become red and irritated." Since the only way these chemical preventatives (Bravecto, Nexgard, etc.) work is by killing the tick AFTER IT HAS ALREADY ATTACHED TO YOUR DOG, these products DO NOT PREVENT tick disease. These products do not REPEL ticks. While it can take from 24 to 48 hours for a tick to spread Lyme disease from the time it attaches to a dog, it can take just 2 hours for a tick to spread Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever to a dog after attachment. For other tick-borne diseases, it can take even just minutes. (This link is useful to find out more about transmission times: https://www.consumerreports.org/.../how-quickly-can-an.../ ) There are only two ways to prevent transmission of tick disease: *REPEL ticks that exist in the environment, to stop them from attaching to your dog (using naturally based, toxin-free products) *Ensure the environment itself is tick-free. (Spray yard with natural products like Wondercide, Cedarcide, Vet's Best Yard Sprays, or other toxin-free products, if necessary. Include plants in your environment that are known to deter ticks {https://happydiyhome.com/plants-that-repel-ticks/} Of course *ALWAYS* first check to make sure the plants you choose are NOT toxic to dogs. Avoid regular chemical lawn pesticides/insecticide, as they contain known carcinogens.) There are many reasons to avoid these chemical flea/tick "preventative" products, as is seen here on a daily basis through the heart-wrenching stories of beloved furry family members suffering as a result of their use. But in addition, their lack of ability to prevent tick disease — a very important goal for any pet parent — is yet another reason to seek out natural, toxin-free alternatives.

They must be terrified of anything on the other side of a gate, my driveway is 250 m from the road so they just dump anything either in the letterbox if it will fit, or beneath it. although one, was even worse, would send me a txt that I did not answer and parcel was on its way back to the warehouse? as I was home and the phone definately had not rang i immediately called the number on the txt to be told the same story, this went on for 6 weeks and 4 so called non deliveries and texts to that effect. by then I said I will come to the warehouse and pick it up. THEN to be told, I cant, they dont know where it is? yet it was according to the txt message with the courier on its way back to the warehouse???????????????? they were called Fastway, put a comment on their internet page better name for them would be snailway. im told its been sold, no idea if the services is just as bad. did finally get it. but had to pick up at the warehouse, it was never going to arrive at my place do wonder why all of the courier companies refuse to leave at your local post office, even if you have a PO box? decided to take a look at the reviews for my non favourite company. Well nothing seems to have improved gee this is on the actual page with all the links to their reviews so no way can miss this, why do companys keep sending stuff via them? "“Fastway are the worst company I've ever had to deal with. They have no phone numbers listed and Im guessing that's so they wouldn't be in the phone all day listening to people complain about their bad service. ... Very bad customer service. I want to cry when I need to order and Fastway are the courier company.” " on the actual reviews this ones the most recent. Annabel Jameson 6 days agoNEW Got an email this morning with the classic "We're unable to deliver your parcel because no one was home" excuse. My partner and I were both in and the door was open. Been asked to go to a pharmacy and collect it but I have to bring a calling card - problem is, the driver was too lazy to even attempt to deliver my parcel so I don't have a calling card. Phoned customer services to ask what to do in this situation. I gave the tracking number and was told they couldn't find my parcel and I needed to contact the seller. I asked to speak to a manager and the customer service rep just stopped talking and ignored me. It was incredible. Aramex Sydney, you're a delivery company. You only have one job to do and that's to deliver parcels and you can't even do that properly." "Ricky Pann Despite my parcel being clearly marked with delivery instructions, the driver left my parcel on the busy street outside an abandoned shop doorway two doors down on the footpath. I spent two hours of my busy day chasing up the consignment tracking and have had no satisfaction. Never use this company, they are pathetic. They sent me a photo of the delivery taken by the driver and it wasn’t my address. Of course the package was stolen as I was not notified. Avoid this company at all costs or it will cost."

This video is remarkably similar to the description I was given during a panicked call from a family with one of mine, they woke up to him fitting and foaming. Their vet told them my dogs must have epilepsy in the lines and to send me the vet bills . the vet had given him nexguard at the checkup and last vaccination, they though he was giving him a treat, until they saw the bill included the nexguard , so beware if you breed , the vets are sending the blame to you even though have never had this happen in 42 years, that is until bravecto, nexguard and this related product the dog in the video was given came onto the market. apparently there is another product? starts with an A and has Plus after it, the same ingrediant as the previous 3 has been added to it. cant remember the name so make sure you read the packet

another priceless fb post ABComportamento Guys, I promise this isn’t another usual my-dog-on-leash-other-dog-off-leash type of post. It gets good! (Or I think it does ) The other day I was on the local public park (not a dog park, but dogs are allowed) walking Menta. We were on a high movement area, so I had her on a leash. Another dog, off leash, sees us and starts approaching. Menta wasn’t interested and started moving away, but the dog got to us before we could leave. So she politely greeted him back, they sniffed for a few seconds, all perfectly good and fine. Dog was young and wants to play, so he offers a couple of very polite play bows, but Menta declines and moves away. Dog gets the message and moves on. Quite good, right? Here comes the juicy part: As I’m leaving owner comes to me with a speech more or less like this: - Hey, if your dog is autistic and doesn’t even play with other dogs, go somewhere else! Don’t come to the park and ruin the other dogs’ days!!!!! I heard this, a wave of fury started taking over, but suddenly I think I had a lightbulb moment and switched gears completely. With the biggest, friendliest smile, I opened my arms as wide as I could and go: Ohhhhh! Come here! I want to give you a BIG hug! panic in her eyes as she backs up, speechless* Hey, don’t run, I’m so friendly, come on, I just want to give you a hug! I’m friendly, I just want to hug!!!*still speechless and backing away with terror now Wait? You don’t want my friendly hug? ....no... -neither does my dog. Have a nice day. As I walked away, I saw her just standing there, speechless, and she was leashing her dog! I think I’ll try this approach more often

the poster captioned it " Team work " anyone else with cuties like this to share

somebody finally figured it out! some really thoughtful comments on the fb page I spotted it. Because instead of self reflection and personal responsibility humans tend to form herds and blame people who they perceive as weak or threaten their own weaknesses. It happens all the time and starts from childhood bullying through to adulthood Racism, discrimination etc. It can only change if we treat self awareness as an important part of being alive and recognise herd mentality is toxic.

yes the membership of the ankc has gone from about 33,000 in 2017 to 22,000 in 2020. Just as I pointed out to Nancy and Betty, everyone who has a backyard is going to be targeted as a BYB. SO its certainly eliminated a lot of ankc members. no figures for the tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands that are not traceable members of a breed organisation.

with so many even here encouraging people to "adopt dont shop" spotted this just now on faceplant

so which states other than NSW register a litter without having to parentage verify? Be nice to know Karen isn't the only brave Chair.

well you cannot register any ankc litter in qld until all the puppies are parentage verified. I believe its the same in all other states other than nsw. I remember when the ankc buckled to the demands to bring it in then Karen refused to bring NSW into line with the other states correct me if im wrong.

in my opinion parentage verification is just a rip off, if you only have one male there is no doubt of the sire. and it someones mongrel got to her you surre dont need to parentage verify to know the puppies are x breds, well remember a friends girl had three purebred cattledog pups and 9 rotti x. turned out her son had been letting her out "for a run" when he got home from work. no body needed a dna test done to ascertain which 3 were the purebred cattledog pups in that litter. or they badly needed glasses. the only decent dna testing is for the faulty genes they have found the markers for. that is money well spent. https://www.orivet.com/store/canine-full-breed-profile At least Karen Hedberg BVSc. Dogs NSW Chairman knew this and refused to toe to line all the other ANKC Branches blindly followed to appease the PETA nutters. being a vet she knows which dna tests are the important ones and which are just money spinners for the dna labs. I well remember when the arab horse society enforced parentage verification in every foal for registration. only 4% were wrong parentage. 2 of that 4 % were not wrong sire. their mums had switched foals and since both mums were purebred anyway. how many millions have gone into the lab coffers to preserve the "purity" of the breed? my other foal who I knew was incorrect sire I didn't need a dna test to tell me, I knew when he was born. he was chestnut. The horse he was supposed to be by is a dominant grey. so all the parentage verification test did was validate my certainty that Ti had pulled a miracle and managed to sire him from the other side of a six foot cyclone fence? Neither Ti or his mum would tell us how they managed that one. n nope there were no missing links in the fence? only the foals colour told us who was his dad. no explanations ever given by the parties involved.

meanwhile how is it going, this "elimination of puppy farms?" Well someone said there have been less than 5 in the past years. yes years, not year. I know of only two. Well Phil Adam's in 2019 was "raided" and four of his retired pets were seized on the grounds that they were not allowed to live on the property without an individual fully enclosed run for each of them. (pocta rules remember) despite the fact that they had his home, veranda for dozing rights and fully fenced acres to play. They also seized two white cockatoos he was keeping until their feathers had grown back, (he is an RFS Volunteer) he had found them burnt after a recent fire on the grounds he didn't have a license for wild cockatoos and they only had seed to eat and no greens in evidence in the cages. Phil was so disgusted when they began to inspect his three breeding dogs he told them to take everything. so they did. He had been told if he surrendered his old dogs and the birds and signed them over he would not be prosecuted. So he signed them all over believing he would never had to see the bastard Rspca AGAIN. He was mislead and mistaken. Like the headlines below, next he knew were the Headlines, "Londonderry Puppy farm seizure, charges to be laid" He did intend defending himself, that is until his solicitor did the math and he realised sane people (well anyone who hopes to keep their home anyway) plead guilty no matter how well you know your innocent. so he now is a guilty as charged felon. The family below fell for the rspca's offer to take your pets if you can no longer care for them the lady in question, has dementia, her family asked the rspca if they would rehome her animals as she was going into a nursing home. So imagine their amazement after the ever so helpful inspectors came and took them for rehoming. To see these headlines the next day? since when was being invited to come defined as a raid? https://www.peta.org.au/news/nsw-puppy-farm-raid/ note none of the oodles are thin, or unclipped, remember they only photograph the "worst cases" ten minute brush of the 2 nd dog and it too perfect for resale. go google what the rspca have for sale, pens and pens of seriously big dogs. Meanwhile how many hundred's women and children have died in domestic violence incidents in the same 2 years? How many thousand's of mistreated and dead due to neglect were reported in the latest nursing home investigation? Learned that the hard way, my mother finally, took her six weeks to die as the gangrene destroyed her heart and organs, from the day the nursing home finally sent her to hospital with bones hanging out of the bed sores ! After two so called doctors failed to diagnose after a fall she had broken her hip, REALLY! despite 12 weeks of telling them "my mother is in agony" . so she survived 12 weeks of unremitting agony shifted from bed to chair to bed before she was finally surrendered to hospital to die? Months of trying to get investigated and incredible stress, to learn the two doctors involved were "reprimanded, given 3 months retraining AND free psychological recovery assessment". No cruelty charges laid , she wasn't a dog, she would have been far better off if she had been. curious to say the least, hence my suspicions, give the masses a witch hunt to deflect their eyes from the real suffering that would cost the govt billions to address, whereas the public will donate towards animals and cost them very little. sad this race cares more about witch hunting to "save" pets, the vast, vast majority of which are fine, than care a fraction of the same for the vulnerable of their species?

more like criminalising anyone who breeds. It is more than curious how strongly the politicians have moved to criminalise all who have dogs. Yet the lack of focus or legislations to protect the elderly when three royal commissions over how many decades? Have failed to address even one of the long list of recommendations to be done? The weekly, with Charlie Pickering only pointed it out again yesterday, ONE in three are assaulted in nursing homes, left sitting in their own excrement, food so poor quality 2/3rds are suffering malnutrition? Then there is the silence and no legislation improvements addressing domestic violence, despite the fact more than one woman a week is killed, the latest burnt in front of her children? the little boy beaten to death by his father and that's just for the past week? Not even safe in parliament house and what does scotty have to say when they marched? "lucky they are not shot" but they placate the masses by demonising dog owners and breeders? I am beginning to suspect its a ruse to deflect attention to the cruelties that are too common place to the elderly n vulnerable in the community., Give the mugs something to witch hunt so they forget what else we are doing nothing about because THAT might get a few pollies in trouble and actually cost money billions are needed to save the elderly

Neglected to remind you all This addiction to "purity" of the pedigree to the exclusion of health or soundness is beyond me. correct me if im wrong. but I believe all states now , (bar NSW) Will not register a litter until all the puppies have been parentage verified. Millions in income to the dna labs for what purpose? To ensure the 4% of mistakes are identified and corrected? Yes that was the percentage of pedigree mistakes found when this technology became available. You have to be kidding. But I know your not. so How important is their purity OF PEDIGREE? Well for starters how many of you realise when an ANKC breed has hit a bottleneck and is facing extinction or genetic bottleneck the ANKC can . (and done in the past) open a register for grading up. As was done for the Australian stumpy tailed cattledog. So where did the graded dogs come from? The general pet pool of people who love stumpies but none of their dogs are ankc registered, thats where. so why the hysteria about knowing a pedigree is perfect for legions of generations when the actual health and diversity of the breed is the real issue. only by opening a grading up system is many breeds going to have a ghost of a chance or being able to breathe again. live longer healthier lives. toy breeds normally have far longer lifespans than the larger breeds. today so many Cavalier King Charles are dead by 7. just one example DNA profiling for disease is far more important. except the amount of known markers is infinitesimally small among the legions of deleterious genes to be found on offer. Identifying clear examples and including them in the gene pool should be top priority regardless of if they are already pedigree or outstanding unregistered example of their breed. Even the ankc left that option open decades ago for just that purpose.

Yes what you say sounds good. In actual fact so precious few have a clue what is behind the animals in the pedigree. one of my friends only ever bred Australian champion to Australian champion, very aware she never wanted to risk the disasters so attributed to the dreaded "inbreeding" so the dogs she used were never related in any way. I saw more disasters in her puppies than I ever saw bred by another friend who regularly "inbred" to test potential parents over the decades. She had significantly less disaster puppies from her linebred and inbred's. because she had been identifying and removing carriers for many generations by then. This was how breeders of hundreds if not thousands had done before the so limited range of dna testing became available. what so few seem to understand is if two dogs for example carry PLL or two arabians carry SCIDS. NO MATTER how unrelated they are the progeny can end up with PLL or SCIDS and it was not because they were "inbred" you can put two siblings, father to daughter, mother to son and believe it or not! if they are clear of PLL, PRA, Collie eye, deafness u name it. or SCIDS for that matter none of the progeny although definitely inbred will not even have one copy of those defective genes. Some of them become prepotent champions of their breed and species. Inbreeding has never created what was not there . Outcrossing can hopefully hide what is there for generation's until two carriers are put together and everyone screams OH NO they're inbred no other stud book bans the breeding choices of the members like the ankc does. and it did it to please the animal libbers baying for the extinction of all domestic dogs? And which one is heading into endangered figures for so many breeds now? which one is bleeding members at a frightening rate? even more confusing, now despite the constant calls to "eliminate puppy farms" the government has legislated that only POCTA compliant puppy farms are allowed to keep and breed dogs? is it only me who is wondering what on earth is going on?

Bluey had 8, eight, singleton "litters" her life time total being, two less than her mum had in the litter of TEN, Bluey was one of. Winifreds other litters were 7, 7, and 5, so a lifetime total of 29 puppies all live born. Bluey never had a ceaser, nor ever needed assistance for any of them. all were born front feet first and all strong as little chihuahua oxen.

interesting perspective, so if a bitch has any stillborn puppies she isn't "very fertile"? . so you are unaware that having conceived the pup she proved her fertility but to you her fertility is still suspect if it is stillborn? if they come back feet first a high percentage will be stillborn. simply because breech puppies, foals, calves and human babies can often suffocate before their head is clear. one the navel is crushed by the pelvis it will begin to breathe. so back to front its a death sentence for many breech deliveries. to save one foal I had to hook his hips over my shoulder after pulling him out as fast and safely as I could, then because he was so big. could not swing him, compromised by stomping on his ribs to push out the fluid he was drowning in. Meanwhile praying none of them broke ............. he finally began breathing and ended up growing to 16 hands high. If I had not been there he would have certainly died. so by your lights his mum had poor fertility and should be desexed and pet homed?

O and just to confuse you even further many of them also have a version of the "limit register" and/or are already desexed or tied tubes in the girls or vasectomised the boys

refer to the above. sorry I cant stop laughing. sent u a message look at the bar above if you dont know where to look it looks like an envelope

your chances of getting a not already desexed puppy i suspect would be yours and buckley's LOL they will burn you at the stake mate.

these days there are very very few who breed now that dont want to control the pup they bred from the cradle to the grave mate. That applies to anyone you get a pup from, not just an ANKC member. good luck on that quest. equally applies to most of the oodle breeders too, majority are already desexed before sale . my niece paid $7,000 for a blue merle cavoodle. she seemed totally unaware there are no merle cavaliers in Australia. nor to my knowledge are there any merle poodles in Australia? some one correct me if im mistaken? n the little darling was already desexed at 8 weeks

talking to a cavalier breeder recently. we both realised there is one way to eliminate these from the breed and return them to the 15 to 17 year lifespan the breed once had. coming from a family and friends heavily involved with CSIRO animal health I am well aware of the potential of frozen semen and eggs from animals later found to be free of major late in life defects. Also well aware of how useful cloning can be in an environment where millions are available to do this work. Ive seen sheep worth 1.3 million EACH. so where am I going with this. I well remember the ankc asking for donations to stop mrs furbur having access to records when she began a court case, the members raised over 80,000 to cover the legal fees for what to me was a frivilous case. She was a director why not give her acess to the records? the excuse she was wasting staff time confused me, why not just open the door to the files and leave her to it. they lost the case anyway. BUT it did show members can be asked for donations and contribute. so? why not get all cavalier owners to donate towards the collection and freezing of semen and eggs for future storage. then yes only a small percentage of the dogs donated will live MV and Syringomyelia free into their teens. BUT the dogs that do are worth GOLD to the Cavalier King Charles breed. ditto for the king charles if they are also included. So what to do next? use the semen of the successful dogs to the eggs of the successful bitches and you have an instant generation of puppies with a very high expectation of being free of both conditions. Now this is where things get even more important. these puppies will belong to all who contributed. so down the track as they are bred from the members can be balloted to receive puppies and semen to continue the lines and expand the clear gene pool. also equally important, if enough money is raised. any dogs that were missed in the collection and turn out to be clear into their teens the owner can be asked would they please allow dna samples be collected and cloned. YES ITS expensive but costs are dropping annually, Barbara Streisand has three clones of her favourite dog. Even though this sounds like science fiction this approach can be used to identify and return to the gene pool dogs found to be clear even though they had become infertile or desexed. This can be used to improve the gene pool of any breed. Stud cattle and sheep and goat breeders have been doing this for decades already. It needs something the dog world is sadly short of theses days of too many with the mindset that no one gets access to my precious bloodlines. If we want our purebreds to continue free of health issues we need to work together for the good of the breed, not ego's , this is the way to go Ending the present climate pushing that only x breds are the way to go Cloning has made incredible strides since dolly the sheep. In Japan they have a legendary wagyu bull who is still serving, he is a clone, of the clone, of the clone, from the original bull. I think there is a 4th generation of the 3rd clone growing up to replace him. in america there are three clones of a legendary racing mule. one has just been kept by the uni who cloned them, the other two are winning races, achieving the same speeds as the original racing mule.

Mikey, this link is the peta interview I was referring too. its on the "in the news" section https://www.dolforums.com.au/topic/273000-official-press-release-always-been-working-towards-the-extinction-of-our-pets/?tab=comments#comment-6969826

it can be very hard for the owner of a new pup as so many vets put tremendous pressure on them to desex early

one upon a time Mikey. New people were welcomed by ANKC members. You could choose to buy a main register pup if you wished to show and breed your puppy. If you wanted a pet the breeder would give you a copy of its parents pedigrees so you knew its breeding. Also once long ago there were three classes of puppies, That time did exist. it was in the 1970's and early 1980's. Pet, not for breeding as they had a fault not suitable to be bred from. Breeding quality, good quality and conformation, well in the guidelines of the standard, quite suitable for breeding and thus on Main Register. Show quality, good quality and confirmation but had that star quality that would always place them above the breeding quality puppies. (my problem with the "show quality" is a percentage would be a tad more exaggerated in some conformation point that when bred together was and has for generations gradually moved many breeds away from the original standard, (eg, shorter and shorter faces, bigger and bigger eyes, narrower head, or broader head depending on the breed.) just to use Persian cats for example they removed "pleasant expression" so the gargoyles with virtually no muzzle squished beneath massive eyes could now win. in dogs Red setters began to resemble letter openers their skulls were becoming so narrow. French bulldogs and pekes. pugs and Cavaliers lost their muzzles. As my vet Richard said, they shorten the muzzles but the genetics isn't shortening their tongues or their pallets or their nasal passages which are still the same size and now jamming up inside so cant breathe, keep their tongue in their mouth, or even their tear ducts function without blockages. Today few seem to even know "breeding quality" existed Today from what I see in the adds a majority will only sell every single puppy regardless of quality on limit register. I call them Proudly Dead End Kennels. They think they are the epitome of Ethical and Responsible. An unfortunate percentage of ANKC members are what I now think of as "the thought police" They are the self appointed witch hunters of past era's. And like any witch hunter, completely ignorant that other narrowed eyed thought police are eyeing them for elimination too. Their weapon of choice, the phone, busy dialing the rspca, animal welfare and the targets local council. what no one realised in the dog world was a lady began a new organisation in 1982, she called it PETA (people for the ethical treatment of animals) nice cosy sounding name. What it really was founded for was to eliminate all domestic animals. First on the agenda is dogs and cats. about 1984 my ankc friends had began talking about "we have to get rid of backyard breeders and puppy farmers in our membership, they are ruining the reputation of the ankc". I looked at my friends sitting there in their loungerooms planning what was essentially a modern version of the Salem witch-hunts. I asked them, pointing to the back door. "What is outside that door? YOUR BACKYARD" YOU are as eligible for elimination as every other ankc member, unless your living in an apartment with no backyard!" they looked at me as if I were stupid? I couldn't believe they have forgotten the lessons of the past? One of my friends parents are Polish, they knew about witch hunts by the Nazis, another friend is Jewish, he could speak 7 languages because his parents had fled the Hitlers pogroms and in their search for a safe haven been through 7 different language zones and learnt them all before arriving in Australia? My own Mums fathers ancestors fled the Spanish Inquisition to Ireland to become the black Irish. so in those bad old days there were over 50,000 ankc members in a population of some 16 million Australians welcoming you to become an ankc member. fast forward to today, some 22,000 left in a population of now 28 million Australians piously sticking to the ideal of never breeding to sell "we dont breed to supply pets!" I'm ethical, I only breed a litter to replace for the next generation. Sadly Mikey you are going to have a very hard time finding some one who will sell you a main register puppy. I do breed and sell main register puppies, but they are an unfashionable breed. also quite unsuitable for anyone who has no experience with a highly intelligent working breed. So far pretty safe from attracting the interest of any actual puppy farm anyway as they are worth a fraction of the thousands the fashionable breeds get. you need to get to know as many people with the breed you do like and hope and pray you find a nice one who will consider selling you a puppy on Main register. But be careful. when you buy your pup, make sure you ask can you have your puppy vet checked and return if your vet turns it down. there are two reasons for this, some depending on the breed you choose can have significant breathing issues. and as I discovered at a school sports day. Although many breeders tell you upfront, yes I will sell you your puppy on main register so you can show it in the neuter classes. Many puppies today are already either desexed or vasectomised. the lady at that sports day had her cute cavalier puppies in a pen, she didnt want to miss the sports day so had arranged for the new owners to pick them up there. As I played with the puppies I noticed the marks where stitches had been removed and commiserated with her how sad the whole litter had been born with hernias. she blushed. admitted they were not done for hernias, the had all been desexed as 'None of the puppy buyers want to breed but they all insist they want them on main register, sooo they can't complain when none of them can reproduce can they?" to want to breed today is to be suspected of being "only in it for the money" you are intending to become a "greeder" Meanwhile there are so few purebred puppies to be found people are having to wait a year or more for even an already desexed puppy there are rebels like me who will sell on main register to keep our breed from extinction. But sadly 99% are desexed by their owners before they are 12 months old either vet pressure or so many believe the propaganda not to breed to contribute to the pounds. There just isn't a next generation coming to keep our breeds going. but all the ankc breeds barring a miracle are on the slope to extinction my vet four years ago predicted within ten years most pedigree breeds will be on or beyond endangered. added to that the mad demand for oodle crosses few purebreds even unpapered are being bred together to fill the x breed market and thus too are heading for endangered PETA is so happy and confidant that last Melbourne cup day they went public over how successful their elimination campaign has been that they see the end of domestic dogs in sight. Can we who love our dogs wake up in time and stop destroying each other and our breeds before its too late? Peta threw in the seeds to begin the destruction from within. (we have to eliminate puppy farmers, we have to eliminate backyard breeders,) came from PETA. Ankc members heard it and took up the cry, with no idea of the agenda behind it, can the pack be called off? can they reunite? because divided they are falling like matchsticks.