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oh darn I had totally forgotten this until this morning. would have saved you all that money. Sorry For anyone else out there with a puppy whose under canines are not clearing the jaw and the points are touching the roof of the mouth. I remembered today what my friend Nancy did. she would massage the sides of the offending lower canines every day, morning. noon and afternoon, A puppy's teeth are as movable as yours if you wiggle them. they can be massaged sideways until they move to the sides and no longer pointing into the bottom of the jaw. she began when the puppy was 6 to 8 weeks, then when the baby teeth fell out she would massage the new canines to the sides as they grew so they too were moved to the side as they grew and thus cleared the jaw. when the sides of the lower canines have cleared the sides of the jaw, the inner incisors cannot touch the roof of the mouth to cause discomfort either. yes it takes patience. but it sure saves you a heck of a lot of money in specialist dentistry. play with your own teeth. put pressure. release. put pressure, release. you can make your teeth move and loosen them even your adult teeth if you keep at it. puppies bones and teeth are far softer and moveable as I saw Nancy prove with that pup. was so long ago forgot about it until today. will see if I can find photos and if so will post them

the colour BLUE.......... already shows its Main. as well LIMIT is orrible orange how odd this topic is up twice. this photo is on the other one if you missed it

There you go. Blue you have the real deal. You would be amazed how many people buy a puppy and think that the microchip paperwork is their puppies "registration papers" with not a clue That a pedigree pup comes with a real Pedigree certificate. Congratulations.

Coalition For the Protection of Racehorses - Exposed 6 h · DISGRACEFUL MAIL THREATS FROM ANIMAL ACTIVISTS In a very concerning development, we have been sent the following mail sent anonymously to an equestrian horse business in Victoria. If you have also been targeted and threatened or know of others who have, please contact your local police enforcement for investigation. Please spread this message around to help identify the culprits and all the victims. The friend who sent me this thinks its only to threaten people with horses? Looks to me like it encompasses anyone with a domestic animal of any species?

NO point guessing. get out the phone book and look up Pet Transport companies and ask for quotes

cheaper if you already have your own transport pet carrier. sometimes if its a big one they will let two go together, doubt they will permit 3 though. friend moved to nz and back again. heaps cheaper when he reused the original crates Call them and get quotes. Also if you dont already have crates. Either look for someone selling a crate who's imported a dog recently otherwise, it does tend to be cheaper buy the crate from the carrier rather than rent it. great for sleeping in in the car while travelling. n can resell if you want to.

sent you a message click on the kennel name I send you. she breeds glorious dogs as you will see in the photos

just posted by a friend on face plant, she is in America and it also happened to her. so true of the effects on the target owners. Sharing from a friend, who was a victim in a home invasion which ruined her life in every aspect. The men who did the home invasion on me TRIED to ruin my life in every aspect, but failed sufficiently enough that I am fighting back. "WHAT PRICE WOULD YOU PAY FOR YOUR DIGNITY ? My dear friends, once again, I feel the need to share. I am one of many countless thousands of people who have been targeted in " a scandal". Guilty or not, we all are infected with permanent and terminal harm to our very core. I have listened to people's takes on recent home invasions (I will NOT call them a raid) and the removal of their animals. In 2020, even people in the know bubble over with gossip, invented stories about the targeted victim and IT SPREADS LIKE WILDFIRE. This situation is unimaginable ......until it happens to you. Recently, someone asked me what my biggest loss was. The absence of my dogs is palpable, every day, the loss of my home a knife to my heart. However, the realization that I will never again be able to hold my head high, nor be proud of my name makes one feel very very small, insignificant and ashamed. DIGNITY is a precious commodity and the ultimate treasure in ARs efforts to sway public opinion and justify each illegal seizure of our animals. There is a very small percent of the population that is supportive (maybe even pities ) of the victims but the vast majority of people look for any opportunity to re-injure, shame and display a little bit of momentary bravado in their conjured new accusations. AR is the prime example of this. Recently, the Governor of NH used scenes from my home invasion for his reelection campaign with the support of AR groups. MANY MANY photos are published on TV and other media from years ago, manipulated photos. Lets be BETTER than them, extend your hand,don't share gleefully on FB I can't begin to tell you the harm you are inflicting. Compassion is the only pain medication I know of that might help that targeted victim. They have lost everything and their pain will be life long. Whether they are guilty or not, send a virtual message just letting them know they are not alone. The real irony is, we (those devoted to their animals) would NEVER treat them as we treat each other. Evolution, that's the ticket. Lets evolve to the point where we extend our hand to abused people as well."

sent you a pm

why are you ignoring the fact that the teeth do no need to be pulled out? they can be cut and then the jaw will not risk being damaged. so my vets advise comes under "some random people" if they dont agree with the high dollar alternatives by some self labeled "specialist" ? my friend would have been paying $7000 for that elbow op the "specialist" intended to do to broken bones? my other friend ended up losing $12,500 to save her cat, because she thought her "specialist" vet knew better than the life experience vets who do not choose to put "specialist" on their logo? Who have told me 20 years ago annual vaccinations are over vaccinating and risking complications and not necessary. As one of them said to me. "They get out of uni with their BvSc Degree certificate to learn at your expense". the highest price does not necessarily mean the highest level of experience. I'm not sure you are allowed to name living vets My vets included Professor Dave Hutchens ("Prof") OAM BVSc, Hon DVSc, the man who eradicated Equine Influenza from Australia, the only continent to eradicate it. LOL our pollies didn't know what a determined man they had appointed to the Quarantine dept. He locked Australia down without even consulting them first. Amazing special man ‘The Prof’They might not remember all of their time as vet science students at Camden, but most of them, even those who were only interested in small animals, will remember ‘The Prof’. This man stood out from the crowd. He was slight in stature but huge in the effect he had on students. He demonstrated an extraordinary diagnostic ability across species, a discerning eye to pick the most subtle of clinical signs, an agile, flexible and energetic mind which could always think outside the square, and the dogged tenacity to persevere when things did not go right. He had a wisdom, a certain philosophical approach and said on many occasions ‘the mark of a man is how he copes with his failures rather than his successes’." Bob Rawlinson BVSc DVR FACVSc and Dr Percy Sykes AM MRCVS MACVSc, (the chap who invented among other things, yellow lotion). When Percy asked me why haven't I seen you for ages? I told him I had moved so had to find a new vet, when I named him his comment was "Ah the best one that got away!"... When I asked him what he meant, it turned out he used to work for Percy when he first left Uni after graduating. but decided to start his own practice out my way where I had moved to. High praise indeed. These are the kind of people you dismissed with your words "not random people on the internet and breeders who don’t have training in veterinary dentistry" Never saw them use the words "specialist"

except it seems its the "specalist clinic" that wants to surgically remove her puppy teeth that will fall out naturally anyway? It was a "specalist clinic" that could not diferentiate between elbow displacia and them actually being fractured? A nice sign is not the guarantee so many assume. Another friend always uses a high profile "specalist clinic" when dear one developed pneumonia after his latest yearly vaccination, I suggested she stop annually vaccinating him, he was now 16 and it was known they do not need annual vaccinations. (Both dogs and cats, incidentally) It cost 1500 to save him from that initial reaction. Next year she again received her reminder and took him back. It cost 4,000 to save him from the next reaction. Again I told her, DONT DO IT AGAIN. so fast forward ... it cost her 7,000 to save him and this third time even the specialists suggested perhaps the vaccine was the problem... he then lived hale and hearty to 20. Dear one was a cat. but specialist vets treat both dogs and cats, so they make mistakes with both breeds it seems take a good look at the roof of her mouth, is it bleeding from them perforating the roof of her mouth? even if it is, which I greatly doubt. Ive seen puppies with this and the top of the mouth indents where the teeth are touching it, the previous advice to have them cut is far less damaging to the baby jaw bones than surgery of deciduous teeth in a rapidly growing jaw which as others have noted can continue to grow and end up with the adult teeth going to the sides as they emerge. I know two, do just that as their adult teeth came up. also as others have noted, others with a perfect scissor bite at 8 weeks when their adult teeth have come in have over or under bite. Man proposes, God disposes. Then its up to us to deal with the results we didnt expect

the incompetence of some so called vets is almost beyond belief , I know many amazing vets and they just shake their heads at what some do. never forget a friend who was told she was expect to pay 7,000 for surgery to both the elbows of a pup she had given away to a "friend"? The vet they took the limping pup too said it had elbow dysplasia and the breeder should pay for the surgery. she rang me horrified and I advised her to demand a second opinion from her vet. who confirmed it had both front legs fractured at the elbows and discovered from one of the children she had jumped from the verandah and fell ten feet to the ground,landing on her feet and had done it not once but twice the day she began limping, this was a eight months old pup and she was so fat she weighed more than her mother?

Yes, the breeder should have told you and then you could decide if you still want the puppy. Ah they did tell you but only when you picked her up? not fair. Even if the breeder missed realising the vaccinating vet should have seen it when doing the vet check. Have to admit I knew one breeder whose vet did not check the teeth yet it is the breeder held responsible for anything the vet did miss. I know my vet checks them minutely, eyes, teeth, patella, legs , testes for the boys and hernias, anything noted goes onto the vaccination card so no one can forget which puppy it is that something was spotted. For every vaccination he does it so any I keep get the all over three times before they are 16 weeks. even the dreaded temperature check, gee some sure hate that one. Trouble is there is so much variation in jaw growth in some puppies, a percentage the jaw can catch up. As others have noted a perfect scissor bite at 8 weeks can go out others that are out can become scissor bite at adult. they dont follow the rules all the time

spot on. never have them removed. My vet said that the vets who want to remove them must have payments due on their new car. ditto for the vets who tell a client their puppy needs patella's done before its even a year old? many can be soft in the ligaments when young, and strengthen until puberty both bones and ligaments are soft and still growing . in fact many vets pop perfectly normal patellas and say they are out when they are just easy to move due the puppies youth. We know this because he has passed puppies at their 8 week vet check and later discovered the new owner has been scammed by their own vet and been operated on before they were even 7 months old

"Whelping Frequency 4A. A Member shall not breed a bitch causing it to whelp more than twice in eighteen months without the prior approval of the Board of Directors except under extenuating circumstances where application for registration of the litter may be considered by the Board of Directors. (11/08) 4B. A Member shall not breed a bitch causing it to whelp more than twice in two years without the prior written approval of a Veterinary Surgeon certifying her fitness to carry and whelp the third litter. (11/11) 4C. A Member shall not breed a bitch causing it to whelp more than six times without prior veterinary certification of fitness for further breeding and without prior approval of the Board of Directors except under extenuating circumstances where application for registration of the litter may be considered by the Board of Directors. (11/08), (11/11)" So, as actually as she has already bred two litters. The third litter cannot be registered if she whelps them even a day less than two years from the birth date of the first litter. As noted not all bitches cycle six monthly. so can get caught out. Would have to go to the board to decide in that instance. Along with a veterinarian certificate issued before she was mated.

true So much detail about the treatment but forgot to say all supplied by the vet. trouble is when worried can forget . unfortunate omission. as others have said, so many come here looking for free advice instead of heading straight to the vet.

I almost lost my daughter as a toddler to Giardia, she was scouring so badly she had degenerated to the degree I could see her tiny bones through her skin as the doctors continued to test and all tests came back negative. she had been in intensive care for three days and obviously close to death, before they decided nothing was working so lets treat her for giardia just in case "as it can be an intermittent shedder" and thankfully it worked. Its not just a puppy killer. unknown to me the water at Mittagong is known to be contaminated and I did not know. We had been visiting relatives and she wanted a glass of water and I gave it to her from the tap. Apparently all the bottles of water in the fridge was already boiled water that Mandy only gave the kids but she never thought to tell me. When I told her we had almost lost my daughter and we were stumped how she became infected is when I learned their water is contaminated and she thought I had known.

you poor darling, very few breed anymore, its now not the done thing to "prostitute your fur child and sell your grand children" NO kidding, that's what a numbskull asked me as she was about to leave with the puppy she bought from me and that was ten years ago! Thanks to the constant litany that "we have to eliminate puppy farmers and backyard breeders" very few are game to breed more than one litter a year anymore. dogzonline is mainly populated now by the "never breed more one or two litters as Im ethical and responsible, I'm not in it for the money" As well as the "adopt, not shop" I have seen as well. If that isn't telling anyone reading it that unless you too toe that line then you are unethical and irresponsible? The silence for decades has been deafening from those who actually do breed more. Trouble is the thought police avidly scan the litter registrations in the journal and anyone who has, although perfectly within the code of ethics to breed multiple litters , discover some one has been busy dialing and they have inspectors at the gate, I have been incredibly lucky, been breeding since 1979 and the atmosphere has changed so much many of my generation tend to be wondering why remain a member let alone breed when to do so is to become a target. Let alone, meet idiots like the lady who I earlier quoted who I expect has told everyone she meets that she "rescued" her pup. It was interesting she was too gutless to have her say before she had paid, received her puppy and paperwork, insurance and food all safely stowed in her car and leaving before she opened her mouth. I have only seen one litter affected by I have to admit I forget if it was guardia or coxxi? and yes a trip to the vet and my vet put them and the mum on Baycox and it felt like instant improvement... I always have scourban on hand always, at least it then gives the puppies a bit more time to find out whats going on before dehydration rears its ugly head. She was a friends dog I was looking after and it scared the daylights out of me as the vet said she could have picked it up before she arrived or he said birds tend to carry and spread both. Hope your puppies are getting better. Nothing so distressing than sick puppies. apologies for not spotting your post earlier

Wish I had Ch Pureheel Royal Echo on tape, when the moon was out that boy was a canine Pavarotti. When he went back to his breeder later in life (he had left her as a puppy) She couldn't believe it, first night he began singing. Not only beautiful boy, but exceptionally talented

Well they sure have not learned from the mess created by the mass council mergers then? Signed What a mess this will be if it is pushed through

also the limit register has thousands of excellent dna tested individuals that have just as effectively been eliminated from the gene pool

All these decades of tougher laws and codes to "eliminate puppy farmers" Yet, why is there not equal if not more, "education" of diet, care and maintenance of each breed instead? Whatever happened to educate the person who is found their animals have not been adequately fed, wormed, parasite treated? Frankly I would suspect education would be far cheaper to implement and achieve than higher fines for the uneducated? Not even todays new vets have adequate diet training of our dogs for example. recently a bitch had a litter of 7 puppies, the owner took her for a checkup and after checking she was in good health and no retained placenta's and the puppies all doing well, the vet made the comment, "Poor girl, this lot will suck the life out of her" That vet was obviously unaware that adequate diet will ensure the bitch would definitely, not, have "the life sucked out of her" but gain weight right up till they were weaned? We have all seen the horror shots of starving bitches with puppies hanging off them. where are the equal to more shots of strong, healthy bitches with their puppies? Both mother and puppies in the pink of health and educate members and joe public what is necessary to achieve this happy result? For too long the peta mob have been given free rein and not challenged or their claims refuted

trouble is so many think the dna tests are the be all and the end all of breeding sound dogs. the reality is the available tests are just 0.000000001% or even less of that guesstimate of the genes we dont want in our breeds. the banning of mother to son and father to daughter eliminated the tool that has been used for thousands of years by breeders to scan the genetics of their animals and make decisions accordingly, but the ankc removed that and just about every other incentive to keep the gene pool from shrinking continually as it has since the witch hunts to eliminate "puppy farmers and backyarders" from the membership, (I asked in the 1980's and still ask? if you dont live in an apartment, then every one of you have a backyard and thus marked for elimination" ) in their bid to placate the implacable animal libber/rights faction who only this week finally came out on public radio their sole aim is just what my vet said is happening, they feel they are close to achieving the extinction of domestic dogs and cats in this generation. When they began canvassing government to reclassify horses as companion animals I realised horses were next on the elimination agenda and yes they admitted that too in the radio interview. I may seem to be an idiot, I know many have told me to "go see a doctor, your sick in the head" Well. maybe something somehow enabled me to see where their agenda was heading all those decades ago that the self elected ethical, responsibiles thought police's glasses have blocked from their sight? so my next question, is have they now realised they have been tricked into the internal destruction of the ankc all these decades? If so any solution suggestions ? Sadly I suspect, it would be an almost impossible ask to stop viewing everyone other than themselves as prospective puppy farmers. According to even the present code of ethics, "10. A Member shall not breed a bitch that results in it whelping more than six times without prior veterinary certification of fitness for further breeding and without prior approval of the Board of Directors except under extenuating circumstances where application for registration of the litter may be considered by the Board of Directors." So a member who breeds six litters from their bitch IS NOT IN BREECH of the Code of Ethics. Try telling that to the thought police! Yet a lady who bred six litters from her six bitches in one year. Ie one litter from each of her bitches, was labeled a puppy farmer, numerous calls were lodged with the rspca, Fellow members of her breed club were heard openly boasting they had made the calls. They made it so distressing for her she resigned from the club, although I and other friends managed to at least talk her out of resigning from the ankc. so at least she is still a registered ankc breeder and she does still breed and new members have a change of finding a main register pup. They cant get one from the "thought police" though. This was called in my day creating the scene "for divided we fall!" Looking at the stats for membership numbers over the past 30 years there has been substantial fall in relation to the population growth of this nation http://ankc.org.au/media/9436/memberstats_to-19v2.pdf That's a pretty obvious free fall towards extinction of not only the ankc but the breeds it was founded to register is it not? The show scene is the newcomer to dog breeds, our breeds were not evolved for show, they were evolved for a purpose . Today if you dont show, again that person is considered unethical and irresponsible? There are many reasons why some one may not show, that does not make them or their dogs inferior even though that is the automatic assumption today. again a case of "divided we fall". The PETA mob have good reason to be delighted, they have proven to be far smarter than the "ethical, responsible thought police" to date

I suspect this is the reason the RNSWCC changed its public name to Dogs NSW. Its board foresaw that to remain relevant to the pet owning public who do not own an ankc registered dog, they can still encourage people to join as a social club for working dog, earth dog trials etc and events open to unpedigreed dogs