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Yes they finally caught on they had necked themselves making people wait 12 moths to "prove" they are ethical

too funny, we all know that already nice they now have it official

the half wits did it to placate the AR nutters without understanding their agenda is the extinction of domestic animals. soooo over the last five to ten years they have eliminated 90% of potential ANKC members and sent the membership numbers and the gene pool of the breeds into endangered figures. as a friend said, these days stupidity seems the first requirement of an ankc member She is incredibly fortunate to have one on mains register. so few breeders will main register a pup now. Because being a dead end kennel is viewed as the epitome of responsibly ethical. no disgusting puppy farmer will get their hands on my bloodline and neither can anyone else? so sad how horrible people are to each other these days. Seems the human condition is geared to join witch hunts without realising they too fit the parameters for a disgusting backyarder (we all have a backyard pet!) or even worse a puppy farmer (yet to pass that POCTA inspection you have just been signed off as complying to what? the parameters for a puppy farm?) worlds gone mad

Actually many "breed" societies embrace "grading up" to "purebred" status. the only ones that dont are the Arabian Horse Society and the ANKC's come to think of it. although the ANKC's do embrace grading up occasionally, dont forget the opening of the stud book for stumpy tailed cattledogs. I expect many "breeds" will be needing to do this in the future if they are to survive

when I was young it was called the dog in the manger mentality. it doesnt want to eat the hay but no one else can have it or use it. Your words "evil" is spot on Sandgrubber but the thought police have sanitised it by conversion to "ethical, responsible.. I am so over what has happened The ankc's are being destroyed from within Along with of course the gene pool new members are supposed to be working to not only preserve but pass on to the future. Well that was what the ankc's were meant to be doing, maintain stud book and encourage new members. Now of course anyone who wants to apply for a prefix is viewed with suspicion as a potential puppy farmer eager to destroy the show worlds exclusive reputation. about as welcoming as a block of ice as I and so many have learned the hard way. Attract the attention of the self appointed thought police will end in heartache and humiliation. Even the board members are busy writing codes of ethic's on the assumption todays members cannot be trusted for care for their pets properly or can be trusted to even tell the truth about the parentage of the puppies they breed? Even if they only own one male anyway. we now live in a world of guilty until proven innocent at your expense. I do not like this new world at all. murderers and pedophiles have more rights to innocent. until proven guilty. Even then innocent after parole too? You give up a lot if you choose to have a pet today. You are open to accusations of being an abuser. You become a potential disgusting puppy farmer if you apply to become an ankc member and have the hide to want to apply for a prefix. So you give up even more freedom if your membership is approved and have a prefix. the spotlight is firmly on and you are subject to to raids without warning as the thought police get busy dialing in hopes charges will follow. But the pressure gets rid of many anyway thanks to the shame and humiliation of neighbours and friends raised like us all that where the rspca turns up, where their's smoke there's fire. mean while the thought police who think their dedication to breeding and showing to Ch on the front of their darlings names were busy creating the wonderful health wreaks featured on Pedigree Dogs Exposed? So blind to the mess they were making so busy improving on features that became so exaggerated the AR rights nutters have had a field day. I am only repeating the history as its happened. Sadly I have no idea if the self destruction can be turned around. My Vet and many of my vet friends do not see it can happen. Only time will tell the end of this story

had a chi girl who just got so excited she trampled to death her first litter and when she had her second was no better. nancys vet gave her a sedative. no memory what it was. but ask your vet, she slept like a log, puppies had great feed so got all their colostrum and gave her less the next day and the next. by then she was cool with having a real LIVE litter and was wonderful mum from then on, and didnt forget when she had her second litter was top notch mum no sedation needed. Lot to learn breeding is not always like the books say

Very disheartening. but we were warned in a way. when a chap like Leon Mills. and ex public prosecutor can submit this during the waterways enquiry. even have his letter on public access via the Hansard and nothing came of it. makes u wonder what chance we small fry ever had eh? That NSW State Govt enquiry received a copy of this letter as well, but doesn't seem to have had any impact. Or I noted the Murray Grey stud owners sent so much detail of their life's destruction. Anyone who suffers seems to just be collateral damage? to be ignored 3rd June 2010 The Honorable Members General Purpose Standing Committee No.5 Inquiry into the R S P C A raid on the Waterways Wildlife Park Dear Members, My full name is Leon Andrew Mills and I have resided in Gunnedah since 1982, I moved to Gunnedah as a result of my applying for the Police Prosecutors position for the Gunnedah Local Court Circuit. I continued in that position until my retirement in 2006. In 2008 I stood in the Local Government elections and was successful in gaining office as a Gunnedah Shire Councillor. I am still in that position today. The two submission I would like the Honorable Committee to consider are that the compliance section of the RSPCA 9RSPCA Inspectors) be disbanded and that all the duties that they try to perform in relation to the investigation and brief preparation for alleged offences under the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals Act 1979 (the Act), be given to sworn Constables of the NSW Police Force in particular the Rural Crime Unit. My second submission is that all prosecutions under the Act be done by Police Prosecutors in the Local Court jurisdiction. RSPCA Inspectors obtain their powers s a result of being issued an Authority under .section 4D(2) of the Act. In relation to this Inquiry it is clear that Inspectors Prowse and French have no idea of their powers. I say that on this basis, the Act is clear in relation to what an inspector can do and is set out in Division 2 of the Act. On the Friday following the taking of the Koalas a report was broadcast on the 6.30am local A B C News that Officer Prowse said the reason for taking the Koalas was that they were “stressed”. There is no power under the Act to take an animal that is stressed. It alledging distress, as referred to in Section 24H subsection (5) of the Act, there is no evidence at all that any of these animals were suffering debility, exhaustion or significant physical injury. To support what I am submitting, the Honorable Committee would note that the Officers examined the Koalas at about 10.30-11am. They gave no treatment to these Koalas from that time until after 4.30pm, why? There was nothing wrong with them, and of course we are talking about Officers that would be expected to take immediate action if an animal was suffering debility, exhaustion or significant physical injury. These two Officers had to do something and they illegally removed these Koala for the sole purpose of the T V show R S P C A Animal Rescue. To further support this submission the head of the R S P C A Mr Steve Coleman said no proceedings would be taken against Nancy Small as a result of community outrage. I completely reject this statement. As a former Police Prosecutor of 28 years both in the city and country on rare occasions there is community outrage when some proceedings are taken. I have never before heard of proceedings for a criminal matter being abandoned or not brought because of community outrage. The reason there were no proceedings brought was that there was nothing wrong with these animals. Offences under the act are Criminal. Officers French and Prowse were supposed to be “investigating” this matter. It is interesting to note the quality of this so called investigation. No interview with Nancy Small or any other carers of these Koalas. No exhibits such as, stool samples, feed provided in the Koala enclosure, photos for identifications of each Koala, no tagging for identification. When one looks at the R S P C A Seizure Notice re this matter S N 010 16 the Officers have not even identified the Koalas to the extent of their sex. This so called investigation is absolutely pathetic and shows the quality of how RSPCA inspectors carry out their duties. The N S W police have a branch now called the Rural Crime Unit these branches operated both in the city and country. They are staffed by sworn Police who have been fully trained in investigation techniques. Many of these Officers are fully trained Detectives. It would be my respectful submission that these officers should take over the compliance section of the R S P C A. Of course it would require extra staff and resources. It would be my suggestion that appropriate funding could be transferred from the funding the State Government gives to the R S P C A to the Police Budget. Another benefit of a transfer to Police is that all Police investigations are subject to review by independent authorities such as the Ombudsman or I C A C. This is not the case with R S P C A inspectors, they answer to no one other than themselves. On the 18th of February last I attended the local branch meeting of the R S P C A as the head of the organization Mr Steve Coleman was attending. During the course of the meeting he answered a number of questions re the Waterways incident. Mrs. Dodd asked him a question being, “who can I complain to”, Mr Coleman’s response was “the Chief Inspector of the RS S P C A”. From a community point of view in this day and age it is totally unacceptable that we have an organization such as this that when a complaint comes in they investigate themselves. The subject Koalas were living in a happy well cared for environment when they were illegally removed by Inspectors French and Prowse. One of the females had a baby Koala in her pouch that Mrs Small was aware of. I have been told that the R S P C A Inspectors became aware of this fact over the 48 hours following their removal. One of the other Koalas was an elderly female that Mrs Small has described as the “Old Lady”. Mrs Small has never denied that this Koala was elderly and whilst ever in good health could live out her days in the Koala Enclosure. Both these Koalas that were supposed to being cared for by Inspectors French and Prowse are now dead so I ask this question what investigation has the RSPCA done in relation to the deaths of these Koala or am I correct in assuming that when an animal dies because of the ignorance or lack of care by that inspector no investigation takes place. This is another example as to why the Police should take over these responsibilities so that when this type of incident occurs it can be properly investigated or reviewed by an appropriate authority. I referred earlier in this document to the fact that prior to my retirement I was the police Prosecutor for the Gunnedah Court Circuit. During the 1980’s and 1990’s and in some cases still to this day besides representing Police informants in Court Police prosecutors represent many other entities, for example, Probation and Parole, National Parks and Wildlife, D O C S, Roads and Traffic Authority and the RSPCA. Over the years until about 2000, every so often I would receive a brief from an RSPCA Inspector who would be the informant usually in more than one information. If the matter was a “not guilty” plea I would present the case on behalf of the informant. If the offence or offences were proved some costs would be sought by the Informant that would usually be for witness expenses and any fodder that may have been required to give to the animals in question. No Legal professional costs were ever sought. In addition a fact I feel is relevant is that Police Prosecutors DPP Prosecutors and Crown Prosecutors have a duty to place all the evidence before the Court. Each carries a custodial penalty of 2 years imprisonment. True there is a difference in the monetary penalty but goal is the most severe penalty for a Criminal Offence. A common assault is one where the victim suffers no serious injury. For some reason the Parliament does not view aggravated cruelty as a serious offence at law. The RSPCA since about 2000, to my knowledge, have been engaging private solicitors to conduct their prosecutions and one might ask why did they move to this system. It is my submission that this practice should cease and that Police Prosecutors should conduct the prosecutions for the RSPCA. I say that on this basis. By engaging private Solicitors or barristers there is no obligation on them to place before the Court evidence that may disadvantage their case. Legal and Professional Costs come into play. If their prosecution is successful they would ask for these costs. It seems unbelievable that recently in one of their prosecutions at Narrabri an amount in excess of a quarter of a million dollars was sought for costs in a matter heard in the Local Court, and as I said before, an offence not serious at law. In conclusion it is my humble opinion that inspectors French and Prowse have no knowledge in respect to their obligations under the Act and it is clear they see their careers more in the field of TV and to add insult to injury when asked a question by myself about the TV show RSPCA Animal Rescue and their role in this incident when he attended Gunnedah on the 18th February last, Mr Coleman’s explanation was and I quote, “the Officers had been on another job with them and when they said they were going to Gunnedah the crew said we might just tag along” end quote. I informed him that I did not accept that explanation at all. It’s a sad situation when the head of such an organization is trying to assist the coverup. Yours faithfully Leon Mills Councilor Gunnedah Shire Council

What breed is your puppy? Some breeds are prone to it Especially short face breeds As my vet explained. The shorten the muzzle but the tongue and the teeth stay the same size as does the palette. Result tongue more comfortable to let hang out. Palette drops down n dog snorts/chokes as it obstructs airway. Why so many French Bulldogs need theirs shortened

oh darn I had totally forgotten this until this morning. would have saved you all that money. Sorry For anyone else out there with a puppy whose under canines are not clearing the jaw and the points are touching the roof of the mouth. I remembered today what my friend Nancy did. she would massage the sides of the offending lower canines every day, morning. noon and afternoon, A puppy's teeth are as movable as yours if you wiggle them. they can be massaged sideways until they move to the sides and no longer pointing into the bottom of the jaw. she began when the puppy was 6 to 8 weeks, then when the baby teeth fell out she would massage the new canines to the sides as they grew so they too were moved to the side as they grew and thus cleared the jaw. when the sides of the lower canines have cleared the sides of the jaw, the inner incisors cannot touch the roof of the mouth to cause discomfort either. yes it takes patience. but it sure saves you a heck of a lot of money in specialist dentistry. play with your own teeth. put pressure. release. put pressure, release. you can make your teeth move and loosen them even your adult teeth if you keep at it. puppies bones and teeth are far softer and moveable as I saw Nancy prove with that pup. was so long ago forgot about it until today. will see if I can find photos and if so will post them

the colour BLUE.......... already shows its Main. as well LIMIT is orrible orange how odd this topic is up twice. this photo is on the other one if you missed it

There you go. Blue you have the real deal. You would be amazed how many people buy a puppy and think that the microchip paperwork is their puppies "registration papers" with not a clue That a pedigree pup comes with a real Pedigree certificate. Congratulations.

Coalition For the Protection of Racehorses - Exposed 6 h · DISGRACEFUL MAIL THREATS FROM ANIMAL ACTIVISTS In a very concerning development, we have been sent the following mail sent anonymously to an equestrian horse business in Victoria. If you have also been targeted and threatened or know of others who have, please contact your local police enforcement for investigation. Please spread this message around to help identify the culprits and all the victims. The friend who sent me this thinks its only to threaten people with horses? Looks to me like it encompasses anyone with a domestic animal of any species?

NO point guessing. get out the phone book and look up Pet Transport companies and ask for quotes

cheaper if you already have your own transport pet carrier. sometimes if its a big one they will let two go together, doubt they will permit 3 though. friend moved to nz and back again. heaps cheaper when he reused the original crates Call them and get quotes. Also if you dont already have crates. Either look for someone selling a crate who's imported a dog recently otherwise, it does tend to be cheaper buy the crate from the carrier rather than rent it. great for sleeping in in the car while travelling. n can resell if you want to.

sent you a message click on the kennel name I send you. she breeds glorious dogs as you will see in the photos

just posted by a friend on face plant, she is in America and it also happened to her. so true of the effects on the target owners. Sharing from a friend, who was a victim in a home invasion which ruined her life in every aspect. The men who did the home invasion on me TRIED to ruin my life in every aspect, but failed sufficiently enough that I am fighting back. "WHAT PRICE WOULD YOU PAY FOR YOUR DIGNITY ? My dear friends, once again, I feel the need to share. I am one of many countless thousands of people who have been targeted in " a scandal". Guilty or not, we all are infected with permanent and terminal harm to our very core. I have listened to people's takes on recent home invasions (I will NOT call them a raid) and the removal of their animals. In 2020, even people in the know bubble over with gossip, invented stories about the targeted victim and IT SPREADS LIKE WILDFIRE. This situation is unimaginable ......until it happens to you. Recently, someone asked me what my biggest loss was. The absence of my dogs is palpable, every day, the loss of my home a knife to my heart. However, the realization that I will never again be able to hold my head high, nor be proud of my name makes one feel very very small, insignificant and ashamed. DIGNITY is a precious commodity and the ultimate treasure in ARs efforts to sway public opinion and justify each illegal seizure of our animals. There is a very small percent of the population that is supportive (maybe even pities ) of the victims but the vast majority of people look for any opportunity to re-injure, shame and display a little bit of momentary bravado in their conjured new accusations. AR is the prime example of this. Recently, the Governor of NH used scenes from my home invasion for his reelection campaign with the support of AR groups. MANY MANY photos are published on TV and other media from years ago, manipulated photos. Lets be BETTER than them, extend your hand,don't share gleefully on FB I can't begin to tell you the harm you are inflicting. Compassion is the only pain medication I know of that might help that targeted victim. They have lost everything and their pain will be life long. Whether they are guilty or not, send a virtual message just letting them know they are not alone. The real irony is, we (those devoted to their animals) would NEVER treat them as we treat each other. Evolution, that's the ticket. Lets evolve to the point where we extend our hand to abused people as well."

sent you a pm

why are you ignoring the fact that the teeth do no need to be pulled out? they can be cut and then the jaw will not risk being damaged. so my vets advise comes under "some random people" if they dont agree with the high dollar alternatives by some self labeled "specialist" ? my friend would have been paying $7000 for that elbow op the "specialist" intended to do to broken bones? my other friend ended up losing $12,500 to save her cat, because she thought her "specialist" vet knew better than the life experience vets who do not choose to put "specialist" on their logo? Who have told me 20 years ago annual vaccinations are over vaccinating and risking complications and not necessary. As one of them said to me. "They get out of uni with their BvSc Degree certificate to learn at your expense". the highest price does not necessarily mean the highest level of experience. I'm not sure you are allowed to name living vets My vets included Professor Dave Hutchens ("Prof") OAM BVSc, Hon DVSc, the man who eradicated Equine Influenza from Australia, the only continent to eradicate it. LOL our pollies didn't know what a determined man they had appointed to the Quarantine dept. He locked Australia down without even consulting them first. Amazing special man ‘The Prof’They might not remember all of their time as vet science students at Camden, but most of them, even those who were only interested in small animals, will remember ‘The Prof’. This man stood out from the crowd. He was slight in stature but huge in the effect he had on students. He demonstrated an extraordinary diagnostic ability across species, a discerning eye to pick the most subtle of clinical signs, an agile, flexible and energetic mind which could always think outside the square, and the dogged tenacity to persevere when things did not go right. He had a wisdom, a certain philosophical approach and said on many occasions ‘the mark of a man is how he copes with his failures rather than his successes’." Bob Rawlinson BVSc DVR FACVSc and Dr Percy Sykes AM MRCVS MACVSc, (the chap who invented among other things, yellow lotion). When Percy asked me why haven't I seen you for ages? I told him I had moved so had to find a new vet, when I named him his comment was "Ah the best one that got away!"... When I asked him what he meant, it turned out he used to work for Percy when he first left Uni after graduating. but decided to start his own practice out my way where I had moved to. High praise indeed. These are the kind of people you dismissed with your words "not random people on the internet and breeders who don’t have training in veterinary dentistry" Never saw them use the words "specialist"

except it seems its the "specalist clinic" that wants to surgically remove her puppy teeth that will fall out naturally anyway? It was a "specalist clinic" that could not diferentiate between elbow displacia and them actually being fractured? A nice sign is not the guarantee so many assume. Another friend always uses a high profile "specalist clinic" when dear one developed pneumonia after his latest yearly vaccination, I suggested she stop annually vaccinating him, he was now 16 and it was known they do not need annual vaccinations. (Both dogs and cats, incidentally) It cost 1500 to save him from that initial reaction. Next year she again received her reminder and took him back. It cost 4,000 to save him from the next reaction. Again I told her, DONT DO IT AGAIN. so fast forward ... it cost her 7,000 to save him and this third time even the specialists suggested perhaps the vaccine was the problem... he then lived hale and hearty to 20. Dear one was a cat. but specialist vets treat both dogs and cats, so they make mistakes with both breeds it seems take a good look at the roof of her mouth, is it bleeding from them perforating the roof of her mouth? even if it is, which I greatly doubt. Ive seen puppies with this and the top of the mouth indents where the teeth are touching it, the previous advice to have them cut is far less damaging to the baby jaw bones than surgery of deciduous teeth in a rapidly growing jaw which as others have noted can continue to grow and end up with the adult teeth going to the sides as they emerge. I know two, do just that as their adult teeth came up. also as others have noted, others with a perfect scissor bite at 8 weeks when their adult teeth have come in have over or under bite. Man proposes, God disposes. Then its up to us to deal with the results we didnt expect

the incompetence of some so called vets is almost beyond belief , I know many amazing vets and they just shake their heads at what some do. never forget a friend who was told she was expect to pay 7,000 for surgery to both the elbows of a pup she had given away to a "friend"? The vet they took the limping pup too said it had elbow dysplasia and the breeder should pay for the surgery. she rang me horrified and I advised her to demand a second opinion from her vet. who confirmed it had both front legs fractured at the elbows and discovered from one of the children she had jumped from the verandah and fell ten feet to the ground,landing on her feet and had done it not once but twice the day she began limping, this was a eight months old pup and she was so fat she weighed more than her mother?

Yes, the breeder should have told you and then you could decide if you still want the puppy. Ah they did tell you but only when you picked her up? not fair. Even if the breeder missed realising the vaccinating vet should have seen it when doing the vet check. Have to admit I knew one breeder whose vet did not check the teeth yet it is the breeder held responsible for anything the vet did miss. I know my vet checks them minutely, eyes, teeth, patella, legs , testes for the boys and hernias, anything noted goes onto the vaccination card so no one can forget which puppy it is that something was spotted. For every vaccination he does it so any I keep get the all over three times before they are 16 weeks. even the dreaded temperature check, gee some sure hate that one. Trouble is there is so much variation in jaw growth in some puppies, a percentage the jaw can catch up. As others have noted a perfect scissor bite at 8 weeks can go out others that are out can become scissor bite at adult. they dont follow the rules all the time

spot on. never have them removed. My vet said that the vets who want to remove them must have payments due on their new car. ditto for the vets who tell a client their puppy needs patella's done before its even a year old? many can be soft in the ligaments when young, and strengthen until puberty both bones and ligaments are soft and still growing . in fact many vets pop perfectly normal patellas and say they are out when they are just easy to move due the puppies youth. We know this because he has passed puppies at their 8 week vet check and later discovered the new owner has been scammed by their own vet and been operated on before they were even 7 months old

"Whelping Frequency 4A. A Member shall not breed a bitch causing it to whelp more than twice in eighteen months without the prior approval of the Board of Directors except under extenuating circumstances where application for registration of the litter may be considered by the Board of Directors. (11/08) 4B. A Member shall not breed a bitch causing it to whelp more than twice in two years without the prior written approval of a Veterinary Surgeon certifying her fitness to carry and whelp the third litter. (11/11) 4C. A Member shall not breed a bitch causing it to whelp more than six times without prior veterinary certification of fitness for further breeding and without prior approval of the Board of Directors except under extenuating circumstances where application for registration of the litter may be considered by the Board of Directors. (11/08), (11/11)" So, as actually as she has already bred two litters. The third litter cannot be registered if she whelps them even a day less than two years from the birth date of the first litter. As noted not all bitches cycle six monthly. so can get caught out. Would have to go to the board to decide in that instance. Along with a veterinarian certificate issued before she was mated.

true So much detail about the treatment but forgot to say all supplied by the vet. trouble is when worried can forget . unfortunate omission. as others have said, so many come here looking for free advice instead of heading straight to the vet.

I almost lost my daughter as a toddler to Giardia, she was scouring so badly she had degenerated to the degree I could see her tiny bones through her skin as the doctors continued to test and all tests came back negative. she had been in intensive care for three days and obviously close to death, before they decided nothing was working so lets treat her for giardia just in case "as it can be an intermittent shedder" and thankfully it worked. Its not just a puppy killer. unknown to me the water at Mittagong is known to be contaminated and I did not know. We had been visiting relatives and she wanted a glass of water and I gave it to her from the tap. Apparently all the bottles of water in the fridge was already boiled water that Mandy only gave the kids but she never thought to tell me. When I told her we had almost lost my daughter and we were stumped how she became infected is when I learned their water is contaminated and she thought I had known.