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me too. but cant see any

bit worrying all right. notice neither yours or mine are there either? wonder whats going on, i received confirmation that they had received it, sent it in same time as Phillip Adams

Have you submitted your experience to the inquiry? that will close tomorrow?

lol I sent them a copy yesterday think your answers are yes, yes and yes. after sending mine been ill ever since because I know the risk I have taken in reminding the monster i still exist

I always knew it was for Dogs, but did not know this until today. I remember reading somewhere people are asking for a register to be set up to register their horses microchip, name and details, owner and address details? I was just filling out the application to enter one of my horses in next years Sydney Royal. One of the conditions of entering is your horse MUST be microchippped AND registered in the RAS animal Register, Otherwise known as AAR It only costs $14 and apparently the register is accessible Australia wide. You can register the microchip, animals name, birth date, owner's name and address for any or all of the following animals ....dog, cat, horse, alpaca, bird, camel, cow, dingo, donkey, ferret, flying fox, fox, goat, guinea pig, hare, koala, lion, llama, marsupial, mice and rats, monkey, penguin, pig, possum, rabbit, reptile, sheep, snake, squirrel, sundry, tiger, turtle, unknown, wombat. https://www.rasnsw.com.au/animal-registry/pet-owners/

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kind of ironic really this is front page news this week. https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/drought-stricken-farmers-are-left-devastated-after-the-rspca-seizes-1100-cows-and-say-the-animals-were-well-fed-and-cared-for/ar-BBXilHV ...........except minus photos of the cattle they took or the information in this petition. https://www.change.org/p/nsw-police-give-john-williams-of-pidgee-binnaway-in-nsw-back-his-livestock?recruiter=1021099362&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=psf_combo_share_abi&utm_term=psf_combo_share_initial&recruited_by_id=89c9aa70-0d93-11ea-bd8c-9fd1c7f24497&share_bandit_exp=abi-19211969-en-AU&share_bandit_var=v3&utm_content=fht-19211969-en-au%3Av10 How many are aware this will close on 29th November 2019? https://www.parliament.nsw.gov.au/lcdocs/inquiries/2550/Terms%20of%20reference%20-%20Animal%20cruelty%20laws%20in%20New%20South%20Wales.pdf any who wish to send submissions. need to go to this link or you can email the people listed by click on their name and email direct to them. https://www.parliament.nsw.gov.au/committees/listofcommittees/Pages/committee-details.aspx?pk=263

interesting that even in this case a practice with five vets cannot appeal.... n the rspca continually asks for more power...... https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/wa/rspca-accused-of-abusing-power-as-wa-vets-ask-to-appear-before-parliamentary-inquiry-ng-ef3005eba65daa68409e51092132d2d1?fbclid=IwAR2Ujvoiw4OB9wuDQ-Da_eq39X8rw-P6c1qRjAweuMkcZ_BK30KpGLgqLKc

The real problem is although there are a small number of DNA tests available, they only are for such a small number of deletrious genes of the thousands, rephrase that hundreds of thousands of combinations possible. Fact is, all you can do is your best, test for what can be tested, select for the soundest you have available, then do what breeders for thousands of years have done, "select for the best and hope for the best". Animals just like our children are unique, every single one of them, they do not come from a whitegoods factory, every one identical......... The minute I heard my friend Nancy parroting AR, "any ethical breeder will life guarantee their puppy". Well show me one single parent who can "life guarantee" their child? If you want a life guarantee then do not buy a living creature. head to the toy shop and buy a mechanical toy. on the downside toys wear out too. there is no cancer in my family to my knowledge, I have cancer. but at least ive made it to 70 before it turned up. my husband is 83 and still going, heart disease took out his dad, his heart is spot on, as was his eldest son, but he is dead at only 44, two blood clots to the lungs with no idea where they came from, no heart disease, perfect heart, perfect arteries, no colesterol, even the coroner was mystified... if he was a puppy who do we sue? All a breeder can do is their best. All a parent can do is their best.. To do your best is no guarantee though. Even puppies can be born with Downs syndrome. MRI scanned clear for syringamyelia parents can still produce an affected pup. I thought is was just in Cavalier King Charles, but it is is many other breeds, its even in humans? As Sandgrubber accurately pointed out, even HD scored parents can produce Hip displastic puppies, finally it has been realised diet not just genetics has a direct relationship. one chap proved it beyond doubt... kept two litters from known hip displastic producing parents, divinded the two litters equally. one half were sparingly fed and never allowed to be other than lean. the other half were fed to the standard most pet owners like, plump. the plump ones developed almost double the expected incidence of hip displacia the lean ones one quarter less. Even more interesting the lean litter mates remained sound and arthritis free for 4 to 5 years longer than their plump litter siblings and life expectancy was same percentage difference. She also has a very valid point, when will show breeders start selecting for faces that can breathe without needing their palette shortened or they suffocate during the summer? I am one of those who look at the "before" the show scene photos. Then the "improved" changes and wonder who on earth can call morphing a breed until it has health problems as a result be called "Improved". It is a dangerous road for an ankc member to decide to go the middle road and not select for the extremes so tending to be sought to have that "edge" as the "fashions" change. As Lady Ann Blunt said so so long ago. " I founded a little stud to preserve these wonderful creatures, they needed no improvement." Except the second her daughter Lady Wentworth inherited the stud she so "improved" them a percentage of people refused to even permit even one of her stock to be used in their stud.............the difference between an Old Colonial Arabian, compared to a "Crabbet" compared to a "Straight Egyption" is as wide apart as the German Shepherd I knew in the 1960's to what I see in the ring today. "Improved" or "morphed" is still hotly debated in some circles

good article Although its a pity not to mention there are breeders who do all the health tests and breed for pets, with the bonus many are good enough to show, even best in breed and best in show... goes both ways. https://dogopinionshere.blogspot.com/2019/03/why-buy-your-next-puppy-from-show.html?fbclid=IwAR1c77L98Me-JNPhmxKeSfpIREmOUaJYcG8Byzk85K8_E3mrBDU_Y8rdi_g

someone else has written about the problem too.... wonder who is being shut down the fastest? Aus or U.S.? https://donnabrothers.com/2019/11/13/peta-is-a-bully/?fbclid=IwAR0yh15dETjOF_aH1vv9sXyUh5Am3s6J98GCQ2yXhwzoF5QvJ2OitDUuGg4

as someone pointed out long read but well worth it https://cpisarek.wordpress.com/2019/02/24/want-to-save-animals-stop-supporting-peta-a-wildlife-biologist-conservationist-perspective/?fbclid=IwAR0B1zwv_ZbErYBWkZPvVX_ixvO6Hc8IgAhaTt039oK2_xH-dfAIoZox128

received notification, they are receiving submissions https://www.parliament.nsw.gov.au/committees/listofcommittees/Pages/committee-details.aspx?pk=263 then click on the submissions button which brings up this page https://www.parliament.nsw.gov.au/committees/inquiries/Pages/lodge-a-submission.aspx?pk=2550 been thinking I should contact the people of Katoomba so they can make submissions about how trusting the rspca and inviting them to partner them in the shelter they bought, erected, the two shops they also bought so the income from the shops paid for the shelter and then in I think it was 2017 rspca nsw decided to liquidate both the shops, sold them then gave notice to all the shelter staff it was to be closed and sold as surplus ........all money taken as assets of rspca yagoona............the only reason it is still open the people of katoomba fought to prevent the closure and sale...although with their two shops gone, no income to pay staff or maintenance as before, when it was entirely self funding itself ........they certainly were stupid to hand their hard worked for facility over to rspca nsw...........

received an update. He said to keep checking this link and the date for submitting submissions will be announced on it. https://www.parliament.nsw.gov.au/committees/listofcommittees/Pages/committee-details.aspx?pk=263#tab-submissions

Decades a go they did a study on early castration of colts and was very interesting. the foals castrated at a few weeks to a few months old, some grew over a hand or more, taller (a hand is four inches) than their full sibling brothers that were left entire. even more interesting even the pelvic shape was different. lucky horses dont seem to develop the incontinence problems early desexed puppies have been found to

interesting photographs

Amazing, it is Sunday and have received three replies saying the submission will be forwarded to the Inquiry. this is the last one with more information than the previous two. Dear S, The select committee that's has been formed to conduct inquiry has not had it's first meeting, this is due this week. Once that has occurred details of our to send submission and closing date will be published on website. Kind regards Mark Banasiak I thanked him for his reply and just received this... Dear S,No problems at all, please feel free to pass on to all you know who are interested, more details should be up on the parliamentary website by Friday.Kind regardsMark Banasiak I had sent copies to everyone named in that link that was on dogzonline.... interestingly one of the persons named in that link does not seem to be aware he is named as being on the committee.e.g. ...... .Dear inquiry I have received this unsolicited submission and I am forwarding it to the inquiry. If you have any further inquiries, please contact my staffer member - Sachin Saxena. Regards Walt Honourable Walt Secord

I noticed the enquiry does not give the dates the submissions need to be in? learned yesterday it started 8th August. and still listed as "current" hope everyone sent in theirs. I noticed it also says this "Legislative Council Select Committee on Animal Cruelty Laws in New South Wales This committee was established on 8 August 2019 to inquire and report on the effectiveness of arrangements for the administration and enforcement of the laws of New South Wales for the protection of animals from cruelty. In accordance with the resolution of the Legislative Council, the committee will begin its inquiry in the third week of October 2019 and report by 2 April 2020. Contact us Chair:Pearson, Mark (AJP, LC Member)Members:Amato, Lou (LIB, LC Member)Banasiak, Mark (SFF, LC Member)Boyd, Abigail (GRNS, LC Member)Mason-Cox, Matthew (LIB, LC Member)Secord, Walt (ALP, LC Member)Veitch, Mick (ALP, LC Member) " https://www.parliament.nsw.gov.au/lcdocs/inquiries/2550/Terms%20of%20reference%20-%20Animal%20cruelty%20laws%20in%20New%20South%20Wales.pdf?fbclid=IwAR37ePPn1lRlQLOqqppQq8YiM0_qgEdzcVG5Btjui_nDqMYTBWC5TljzfhI

I do fail to understand why the AR movement has such strong influence with politics, they do not make it a secret the end of domestic animals is their end aim. by the same token all medical science proves the positive benefits of pets, both in mental health and now the recognition that many pets can recognise when their owners have health issues and alert them, now there are even medical alert dogs for diabetes and ptsd just to name two. considering the high incidence of ptsd, pets have a huge positive influence, and keep people out of hospitals, so falling into line with AR the politicians are actually contributing to the increase in mental health cases needing medical intervention, which surely is a serious issue. Although seeing the increasing obvious bias of politics to treating this nation as just a cog in what they see themselves as a global economy, the removal of tariffs was just the start........despite the fact that much of the imports are coming from countries who actively support and subsidise their industries which has ment the elimination of much of austrlias industries, then the gap is bad as bad for the farming sector, every other nation and I am meaning America, Europe and so many others support their farmers with strong subsidisies and do not hesitate to export for less than the cost of production, a scenario that is destroying the pig farmers of Australia, Scot Morrison has just signed off on the import of American beef, again another subsidised product as is their grain farmers, gee they even pay them a years full income for NOT planting a crop, believe it or not. the really scary bit is there are states in America that have known foot and mouth and BSE been identified so these australian politicians with their "we are a global economy member" mentality are also allowing the import of diseases this nation is free of, witness the destruction of the australian prawn industry because they allowed the importation of frozen uncooked prawns from nations with white spot on the argument they are being imported for consumption. Totally ignoring the fact that once sold there is no control over what the buyer chooses to do with their cheap purchase..........sooo a small percentage used them for fishing and now it reached australias prawn farms which have been destroyed....... same disaster with the fruit and vegetable industry now infected by pathogens and virus's that were not here until our generous politicians opened the quarantine gates to their globalisation vision......... Latest news is sniffer dogs have been dispatched to the top end as there is fears that swine fever has reached Australia. the day is almost here when we are truly global, sharing all the pests and diseases this nation was once safe from, well once accomplished no need for one government department, quarantine. pity we couldn't eliminate the present crop of pollies. None of the nations they want to copy will sell even a postage stamp of land to a non resident. as for who on earth came up with the passing of selling irrigation water to non land owners to trade on a water share market , meaning our farmers in this massive drought have to buy the irrigation water for their stock and crops from this market instead of directly from the government? as a result the dairy farmers and irrigation farmers are going to the wall, what the government once charged $60,000 for the new structure means they have to pay from $120,000 to $1.2 million just for the same water , except the profits between what our government sold it for and what the water is finally sold to those who need it is going to the the private sector not the governments coffers? I understand Good ole Barnaby Joyce was a prime mover in this debacle as professor Sumner Miller used to ask. "why is this so?" In the meantime as the dairy farmers continue to go broke and the irrigation farmers also, their farms are being sold as I type, the land is being snapped up by our politicians true masters.... the multi overseas corporations............ Even Dubai is buying up big, as for China apparently they were no 5 in land owned here, now in just the last 12 months the portfolion is ten times the acerage and now number 2. the pollies in victoria and nsw have asked the federal government for permission to sell the Snowy mountain scheme... once they succeed even less water australian owned

Yes, have a bad feeling your right, barring a miracle it is the end of individual breeders, they are being regulated out of existance and the call for 'responsible breeder" " ANKC hamstrung their membership, adding that a breeders goal should not be profit to avoid being tarred with the puppy farm brush" eliminates on the basis of wealthy enough to afford to meet this demand. weird it is not equally a sin for the corporate puppy farms? very double standard isn't it

considering Amstaff and pitt bull can be dual registered in America. How on earth can a dna test differentiate between the two if she has either in her?

Interesting that rspca nsw chose not to answer my questions about what is a safe length of your dogs nails. since too long can be seized and too short can be diagnosed as "chronic mental suffering" and seized as well under the well used reason "formed the opinion" by the seizing inspector. surely we as their owners really do need to know the answer to this question, otherwise how do we know what is necessary to know to keep our dogs safe from seizure. Because this power to "form the opinion" and seized without warning is already law. it has been since 1993, that is the year Marion Alcorn's ten arabians were seized the day the rspca inspector arrived.......in 1999 the day the inspector left the note on my back door and took my little chihuahua Stringy. Then the same power used to remove the border collies in 2019 This POWER has been in existence for over 26 years, so few seem to be aware of this? Was at Dogs NSW the other day and there was the great chart about interacting with a dog you have just met. one of the ones that caught my eye in particular, was do not look a strange dog directly in the eye. this interesting article explains very well. Pity the RSPCA dont teach their inspectors. or do magistrates know this important information either or they would not have succeeding in getting the court order to kill those ten border collies, let alone used their flawed reasoning to seize them in the first place. https://www.canidae.com/blog/2012/01/what-eye-contact-means-to-dog/

Have you forgotten the SA border collies? clean kennels, clean dogs but they still took ten because they would not look the inspector in the eye? then get a court order to seize all the rest on the grounds the dogs could potentially be dangerous if they will not look into the inspectors eyes. When the laws are already in place that all an inspector needs to do is "form the opinion" what more do they need? they dont even have to have any degrees like a vet with BvSc after their name to form these life changing (in the case of these dogs life ending) opinions about the animals. In the case of the border collies they were granted court orders to kill all ten and seize and kill all the others on the grounds they may fear bite in the future.................none of the ten had bitten anyone.......... They have totally unlimited powers already considering this fiasco unfolded without appeal for the doomed dogs. only massive public outcry stopped the deaths of all ten, but 6 are dead and the other four in limbo still, haven't seen any updates... n the only way the owner of the others saved them was quickly giving all the others to rescues before the killers could get there in time to seize them, remember that........and the rspca refused to hand the remained 4 survivors over to the rescues who proved they achieved what rspca did not even attempt. this is the link to the thread if you didn't notice it before Complete with videos of the "potentially" dangerous dogs before they were seized

interesting yours are living longer, my experience is few dogs are making it to 17 and over as the dogs our family had normally lived to when I was a kid, Grans kelpie lived to 19, a friends Chihuahua's 18 and 21