JulesP Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 Were do you like your dog to be heeling? Nose level with your side or shoulder level with your side. What do you think the benefits are? Have you evr got pinged in a trial for forging or lagging because of your preferred postition?? And why is the rule so vague??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopuppy04 Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 a picture tells 1000 words. I like this type of heeling: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ness Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 UK Style heelwork all the way for me - unfortunately my girl has different ideas . So ok she has suffered as I have stuffed around with exactly where I want her. Will see on the weekend exactly what type of heelwork we get in the ring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheres my rock Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 shoulder to my left leg with my sheltie as hes little he tends to forge a bit and be a little in front of my leg but thats ok with me UK is too crowded for my liking so uk without the dog touching you is pobbaly about where i would want my dog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sayreovi Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 I love the heeling in the video posted, prefer dog to not 'crowd' as much but it is still excellent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 I like shoulder by my leg because I like to be able to tell from peripheral vision where my dog is focussing or if she has lost focus. If her head is by my leg I have to move my head to look at her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogdude Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 Dogs ear in line with leg. :D Not a fan of the UK stuff. To me its ballroom dancing, not heeling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ness Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 Thats the reason I like it so much dogdude . Something draws you into wanting to watch more and more LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arya Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 I like shoulder to the leg, dog looking straight up at you, even if there is a bit of crowding. It shows enthusiasm for the work and good drive. I know that some judges like this and some really do prefer nose to leg. It's a real individual thing I suppose. But give me complete focus on your face every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erny Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 I like the dog's shoulder to be in line with my left leg. Same reason as Rom. I am not a fan of the UK style of 'crowding' either. I like the dog's head to be tilted slightly to the right (ie checking in with where my leg is) and I like the dog to check-in by a glance up every now and then, but I am not keen on the continual nose being pointed upwards towards me continuously. I like a dog who is able to check-in on the environment ahead of us and provide me with warning should I be about to fall into a bottomless pit. But I don't trial. For myself, I train for what I identify as practicality. But someone else's requirements may be different, so I work to train to suit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kavik Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 I like the closer style that some people think is crowding but have not gotten reliability with it yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsdog2 Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 I like the dog's head to be tilted slightly to the right (ie checking in with where my leg is) and I like the dog to check-in by a glance up every now and then, but I am not keen on the continual nose being pointed upwards towards me continuously. I like a dog who is able to check-in on the environment ahead of us and provide me with warning should I be about to fall into a bottomless pit. I agree Erny. This reminds me a bit of "Dancing with the Stars" when the female dancer is always looking backwards . This poor dog has no idea where it's going. I was always taught the dog's shoulder was to be in line with your left leg, and the dog should be focusing on you with no distration. I'm not sure about totally eye-balling you though :D . It doesn't look very relaxed does it. I would love my Goldie to be just a little more focused than he is at the moment *sigh*. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lablover Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 As this topic refers to heeling. Who else is as anal as me LOL, in creating good habits and only rewarding for perfect position, as in one step at a time. I feel many reward for poor positioning thus confusing the dog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kavik Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 I would like to be able to be that pedantic LL - would probably improve our heeling no end I admit I am not perfect in my reward timing. I did try one step etc at a time, and found that in slow pace Diesel was excellent, but not so good in normal and fast pace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lablover Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 As they say our timing, due to dog's reading body language as well as they do, is the secret. I was being a little um.....over the top regarding the one step comment. Two steps, three steps. Whatever helps, also regarding our speed and size of dog for instance. Just simply I found it so silly in obedience classes for all THAT heeling with poor results, due to horrid timing and the others (like poor focus and control). Too tight leads blah blah blah. I am rambling, sorry, tired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lablover Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 Added: Take a slow dog fast, a fast dog slow, type of thing. Not only regarding heeling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheres my rock Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 for the shoulder touch type heelng teach a shoulder target I do one step at a time if the dog cant take of paying attention and being in correct position then it aint going to last a whole runthrough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ness Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 I would probably be more anal if I were training a new pup or dog from scratch with what I know now. Having said that I can get really good work with my current girl if we reward 1 step and then build it up but my patience doesn't stretch that far with an almost 7 year old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopuppy04 Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 As this topic refers to heeling. Who else is as anal as me LOL, in creating good habits and only rewarding for perfect position, as in one step at a time. I feel many reward for poor positioning thus confusing the dog. I wasn't with Leo to start off with, but after some helpful training from a good friend she helped me 'correct' my mistakes. With my new girl - I don't think we have done more than 4 steps - any more precise and i'd be stepping on her feet ! I like to aim for the best heeling both my dog and I can do - not that we get it all the time, but we try! No point aiming for heeling that will pass novice, but give you difficulties in open/UD. JMHO :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsD Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 I like the dog's shoulder to be in line with my left leg. Same reason as Rom. I am not a fan of the UK style of 'crowding' either. I like the dog's head to be tilted slightly to the right (ie checking in with where my leg is) and I like the dog to check-in by a glance up every now and then, but I am not keen on the continual nose being pointed upwards towards me continuously. I like a dog who is able to check-in on the environment ahead of us and provide me with warning should I be about to fall into a bottomless pit. Im with Erny & DogDude & gsdog2 & the other "old timers" ( ) who like their dogs to be "normal" or "natural" when they heel :D . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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