Eldoop Posted October 8, 2007 Share Posted October 8, 2007 Hi well Minx and Cody are always scratching...Minx being a staffy has itchys all the time and am currently washing her in Malasab (sp?) and Cody when I first got him put puppy Advantage on him, but he is still scratching??? he does not have fleas, but could he have a reaction to the advantage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheridan Posted October 8, 2007 Share Posted October 8, 2007 Kitty, Malaseb is fairly harsh. Have you thought about using a milder shampoo like Aloveen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldoop Posted October 8, 2007 Author Share Posted October 8, 2007 (edited) Been using Aloveen for 2 years and the conditioner, with no change at all Edited to say she now has some sores under her belly where she scratches and on the insides of her back legs where she is always biting :rolleyes: Edited October 8, 2007 by kittyhawklee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavNrott Posted October 8, 2007 Share Posted October 8, 2007 I agree with Sheridan. I like Malaseb but it must be rinsed out very throroughly...then finish with Aloveen leave in conditioner. The Malaseb can be rather drying to the coat without the conditioner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Her Majesty Dogmad Posted October 8, 2007 Share Posted October 8, 2007 (edited) I have a few thougths on this as I have itchy dogs too! Have you got any Wandering Jew in your garden? Even 1 sprig of it can cause heaps of itching and it grows prolifically if left unattended. What you are describnig sounds like a contact cause. One of mine has been itching for a couple of days - found 4 sprigs across a large area in a raised border, have to go up there at least once a week to try and keep it in check but one brush against it is all it takes!!! My dear departed foxy was actually allergic to grass and frequently had sore legs/stomach from contact with certain kinds of grass. Some dogs only need one flea bite and they can't stop scratching. Don't wash the dog within 48 hours either side of flea treatment. Malaseb is harsh, I have one dog that is always chewing her feet. Washed her in Malaseb and she was far worse so have gone back to Aloveen. I don't put flea treatment on her because I feel it can worsen things. I put her on Proban (flea treatment in tablet form) and that seems better for her at least. Edited October 8, 2007 by dogmad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldoop Posted October 8, 2007 Author Share Posted October 8, 2007 Can you post a pic of Wandering Jew? sorry to sound dumb here but I have no idea what it looks like to see if any is in the yard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Her Majesty Dogmad Posted October 8, 2007 Share Posted October 8, 2007 Many vets have a picture of it, try googling it as well. It has shiny green leaves that aren't that big but not small either, it has shiny green stalks. I had no idea what it was until someone pointed it out - you just can't believe what 1 sprig can do. Dogs are attracted to it as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted October 8, 2007 Share Posted October 8, 2007 Scratching can be caused by so many things:( Wandering jew(dew) is only one. There are other pollens, food colourings& additives, soaps and household chemicals....... a very frustrating thing to get on top of Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptolomy Posted October 8, 2007 Share Posted October 8, 2007 My dog is atopic and I am supposed to bath her a couple of times a week. I am using Pyoderm S on her body and Malaseb on her feet. Have you tried any anti-histamines? Remember spring is the worst time for contact allergies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Her Majesty Dogmad Posted October 8, 2007 Share Posted October 8, 2007 persephone is right. I have tiles throughout and only clean them with gentle hypo allergenic floor wash, never use chemicals just in case. Working in kennels, I have seen quite a few dogs get a skin problem with the chemicals they use there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldoop Posted October 9, 2007 Author Share Posted October 9, 2007 (edited) We have carpet throughout most of the house, and Minx has always had itchies, also we have noticed that she stinks she is more smelly lately, so is this due to her skin being itchy? we bath her but by the next day she smells again Edited October 9, 2007 by kittyhawklee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldoop Posted October 9, 2007 Author Share Posted October 9, 2007 Ok no we dont have any Wandering Jew, just looked it up and nothing like that in our yard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poodle wrangler Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 With Cody, it's really important to rinse, rinse, rinse VERY thoroughly. Poodle coat is thick and it's easy to leave shampoo in there (irritates skin). Conditioner can help get rid of excess shampoo and is nice on poodle coat. I'd try antihistamines from the vet, too for Minx- much less side effects than steroids, though you need to experiment to find which antihistamine suits her best. You can use human antihistamines, but need to get the right dosage from vet. Do you have a slicker brush? You could try that on Minx, too, to get rid of excess hair. With Cody, part the fur as you brush so that you get right down to the skin- poodles can have debris/ pollen left in their coats. Finish with a comb. Grooming tools: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldoop Posted October 9, 2007 Author Share Posted October 9, 2007 Thanks Poodle wrangler...yes I do have a slicker brush, and I've been brushing him about every 3rd day to get him use to it and he puffs up nicely and I'm going to take him to a groomer for his bath and blow dry and puppy clip so he will be well use to all the fuss when he is older. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheree_e4 Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 Sounds like your dog has a flea allergy,You don't need to see fleas to have the allergy.Some dogs all it takes is one bite for them to start itching. Try using a flea product like Frontline in conjuction with PERMOXIN as it will repel fleas and is excellent for treating dogs with allergies. Try using the ALOVEEN shampoo and leave in con with the above. If you are using Malaseb shampoo it MUST stay on for 10mins before rinsing off or it will have no effect,you are also better off using Pyohex conditioner with the malaseb shampoo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purpley Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 I would suggest its something environmental if both dogs are itchy. I would suggest the use of antihistamines aswell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldoop Posted October 9, 2007 Author Share Posted October 9, 2007 Sounds like your dog has a flea allergy,You don't need to see fleas to have the allergy.Some dogs all it takes is one bite for them to start itching.Try using a flea product like Frontline in conjuction with PERMOXIN as it will repel fleas and is excellent for treating dogs with allergies. Try using the ALOVEEN shampoo and leave in con with the above. If you are using Malaseb shampoo it MUST stay on for 10mins before rinsing off or it will have no effect,you are also better off using Pyohex conditioner with the malaseb shampoo. Hi, we have Advantage on them, so they dont have fleas at all, and I've been using Aloveen shampoo and conditioner on Minx for the last 2 years, and yes I left the Malseb on her for 10 mins....no change! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldoop Posted October 9, 2007 Author Share Posted October 9, 2007 Thanks Isiss, I am going to ask my vet AGAIN about this problem, been asking them all of Minxs life...AAhhhggg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 Hi...if minx has a distinctive smell..it MAY be a yeast or bacterial thing on her skin.Have you asked the vet? I had a dog with this, and apart from washing him in one of the medicated washes..I was told to wash and dry between his toes and under his tail at least once a day. Apparently these areas are where the nasties like to breed up, being moist and a bit dirty... the dog licks/chews, and thus spreads it. Best to get a proper diagnosis first.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavNrott Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 Can you post a pic of Wandering Jew? sorry to sound dumb here but I have no idea what it looks like to see if any is in the yard Google is your friend. You will see a lot of pics of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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