Rebanne Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 any one used them? I have hurt my back and it is taking some time to get right but in the mean time the dogs are missing out on walks. They are pretty good on an ordinary flat collar and lead but can get a little excited and pull on occasions. Normally it's not a problem but with a very tender back I can't take the risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nekhbet Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 what breeds do you have ... If they are sight hounds I wouldnt reccomend any sort of head collar if they have a tendency to pull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebanne Posted February 10, 2008 Author Share Posted February 10, 2008 what breeds do you have ... If they are sight hounds I wouldnt reccomend any sort of head collar if they have a tendency to pull. They are greyhounds. I have used a haltie on the male very successfully over the years but can't seem to find it at the moment. They don't pull non stop, they barely pull at all. It's more for when we get rushed by other dogs, usually little yappy ones. Just gives me a bit more control to get them past. BTW both my greys think all dogs were put on this earth to play with, they are not wanting to chase them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winterpaws Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 I have them and have found them fantastic - they are more like a martingale than a head halter. They work really well on Henry the 65 kilo pulling machine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erny Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 The leverage issues (ie potential damage to the dog's neck) is still there I believe. Except that the leverage angle is changed. Much would depend on how you adjust the neck strap in correllation to the nose strap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartandSoul Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 They are a martingale collar with a figure 8 face strap. If your sole issue is that they are pulling and you are injured have you considered the blackdog greyhound collars? They are a martingale with a wider collar. If you asked blackdog they might even make you an infin8 with a greyhound collar instead of a standard martingale. I have used the infin8 on various sized dogs (as you get with rescue) and have never had a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebanne Posted February 10, 2008 Author Share Posted February 10, 2008 They are a martingale collar with a figure 8 face strap. If your sole issue is that they are pulling and you are injured have you considered the blackdog greyhound collars? They are a martingale with a wider collar. If you asked blackdog they might even make you an infin8 with a greyhound collar instead of a standard martingale. I have used the infin8 on various sized dogs (as you get with rescue) and have never had a problem. Umm, I do not consider the greyhound collars from black dog to be very good. Sorry. I have plenty of martingale collars here to choose from, they are what they are normally walked on. Just after a good, hopefully short term solution, to my problem, walking 2 large dogs who may get excited and tweak my back, making it worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erny Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 (edited) Pressure Point Collars (aka prong collars) are very good for people with physical 'limitations' as well as good for dogs in terms of less risk in damage to muscle and skeletal structure. Pity their use is banned in Victoria. Edited February 10, 2008 by Erny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamuzz Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 Just after a good, hopefully short term solution, to my problem, walking 2 large dogs who may get excited and tweak my back, making it worse. What if, just for now, you walked them one at a time? Would that help at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebanne Posted February 10, 2008 Author Share Posted February 10, 2008 I could walk them one at a time but I am a bit worried that even one, on an ordinary collar, may give a leap and tweak my back. Of course I could just take them to the slipping track and let them run, then go walking on my own. Why didn't I think of that 1st Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartandSoul Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 Umm, I do not consider the greyhound collars from black dog to be very good. Sorry. I have plenty of martingale collars here to choose from, they are what they are normally walked on. Just after a good, hopefully short term solution, to my problem, walking 2 large dogs who may get excited and tweak my back, making it worse. If you are saying that you may find you are desatisfied with the infin8 as it is really just a martingale with a head strap (which exerts pressure when you tighten the martingale or when the dog pulls). What about a Gentle Leader? Same principle as a halti but fixes to the face. Or just go out and get another halti but oops looks like you have come up with the solution yourself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kateykateykatey Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 I don't know if you're still considering getting one, but I have one for Scrimp the BC cross, and it's awesome. He's not a puller, but he is dog reactive, so the infin8 is really effective in helping to minimise lunging- much more so than a gentle leader (which we used beforehand). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Spotted Devil Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 I could walk them one at a time but I am a bit worried that even one, on an ordinary collar, may give a leap and tweak my back.Of course I could just take them to the slipping track and let them run, then go walking on my own. Why didn't I think of that 1st Rebanne - sympathy for your back....I'm recovering from a couple of spinal nerve root injections myself. I like the idea of giving them a free run - I have been driving Zig to the beach early in the morning, hobbling to the sand and letting him run amok....much easier :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weimlover Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 I'm sorry to hear about your back :rolleyes: I use the Infin8 halter on Bailey and although he doesn't like it I haven't got the trouble with him lunging like he does on a normal collar. I had tried the Halti, the BD Halter and the gentle leader, he HATED all of them. I keep the nose section on the loosest setting and it only puts slight pressure if he really pulls but otherwise stays fairly loose on him. Good luck with whatever you decide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebanne Posted February 12, 2008 Author Share Posted February 12, 2008 Back's still a problem. MRI next week. The trips to the track are working well. I shut the front gates, open up the car, dogs jump in and I do the same when I come home. They are only on lead for about 10 feet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealityBites Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Back's still a problem. MRI next week. The trips to the track are working well. I shut the front gates, open up the car, dogs jump in and I do the same when I come home. They are only on lead for about 10 feet! Let me know if anyone has had success with these collars, I am looking for something similar. The prong works on my dogs, but they do not like them at all, so am looking for a suitable alternative. Tried taking both for a walk just on flat leads, and seriously had the soles of my feet covered in blisters from pounding he pavement so hard trying to stop myself from falling over! Will not do that again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonElite Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 RB - what about a martingale? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gayle. Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 Let me know if anyone has had success with these collars, I am looking for something similar. I bought a Sporn head collar a few weeks ago to try out and I really like it. The nose band is padded, and the lead attaches at the back of the neck, not the throat. You can slip the nose band off the dog and use it simply as a flat collar. Although my dog doesn't pull much anymore, I like to keep a head collar on him in places where he's easily distracted.....crowds of people, other dogs etc. So far I like the Sporn better than the gentle leader but havn't yet tried the Infin8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kateykateykatey Posted February 15, 2008 Share Posted February 15, 2008 Let me know if anyone has had success with these collars, I am looking for something similar. I bought a Sporn head collar a few weeks ago to try out and I really like it. The nose band is padded, and the lead attaches at the back of the neck, not the throat. You can slip the nose band off the dog and use it simply as a flat collar. Although my dog doesn't pull much anymore, I like to keep a head collar on him in places where he's easily distracted.....crowds of people, other dogs etc. So far I like the Sporn better than the gentle leader but havn't yet tried the Infin8. I just saw the sporn ones in a shop the other day- seem quite similar to the Infin8. I said this in another thread, but the infin8 has been one of the best things I've bought. Scrimp is dog reactive, and the infin8 enables me to maintain adequate control of his when he sees another dog (he will lunge, bark, whine, etc) and continue walking past the other dog. I don't have this kind of control with a check chain, martingale, or even with a traditional head collar. With the check chain and martingale, he is first and foremost too strong, and the tension necessary to prevent this seems to amplify the problem. With the Gentle Leader if he was particularly stressed he'd thrash his head and plant himself, which isn't cool. This doesn't happen with the infin8, because the lead attaches to the back. What's more, he loves it. We have the nose band only very loose (so it acts primarily as a martingale) and it's really helped. I have confidence that I have enough control to help him through stressful situations...so much so that at dog obedience last night our trainer was absolutely amazed at how focused on me Scrimp was, and how well he was ignoring other dogs. We had almost constant watching while walking-- a massive achievement! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozzie Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 I tried an infin8 on my grey and found it kept riding up into his eyes because there is no stop between nose and eyes to encourage it to stay in the right place (yes it was fitted correctly). I have seen it work successfully on other breeds, it just didn't seem right for the angles of a greys head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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