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[twodoggies2001]

I understand that you are not attacking anyone, and I am asking this question because I am curious. There is an entire male dog that comes to the park, and it seems that quite a few of the desexed males growl and attack this particular dog, but play nicely with the the other dogs. If you take your boy into these situations, do you find the same thing?

Why on earth do the owners continue to take the poor dog to the dog park?

I have found in the past, that desexed males do tend to get more 'goey' with entire males. Simple solution, stay away from dog parks.

Well, the problem in this case for the poor dog is that the owner is a single guy and he has a dog as a 'chick magnet' (his words). His logic is "he came into this world with balls and he'll leave this world with them. I have since found out that the dog has testicular cancer.

The dog is a scapegoat in this case. He is unhappy at the park, being bullied by desexed boys and used as a magnet. Responsible dog ownership for you.

[Miss B]

Well, the problem in this case for the poor dog is that the owner is a single guy and he has a dog as a 'chick magnet' (his words). His logic is "he came into this world with balls and he'll leave this world with them. I have since found out that the dog has testicular cancer.

The dog is a scapegoat in this case. He is unhappy at the park, being bullied by desexed boys and used as a magnet. Responsible dog ownership for you.

Um.. how is that relevant to this thread?

[twodoggies2001]

Well, the problem in this case for the poor dog is that the owner is a single guy and he has a dog as a 'chick magnet' (his words). His logic is "he came into this world with balls and he'll leave this world with them. I have since found out that the dog has testicular cancer.

The dog is a scapegoat in this case. He is unhappy at the park, being bullied by desexed boys and used as a magnet. Responsible dog ownership for you.

Um.. how is that relevant to this thread?

I asked a question about treatment of entire dogs by desexed ones and answered a question to that.

[jackie_a1]

I understand that you are not attacking anyone, and I am asking this question because I am curious. There is an entire male dog that comes to the park, and it seems that quite a few of the desexed males growl and attack this particular dog, but play nicely with the the other dogs. If you take your boy into these situations, do you find the same thing?

I don't ever take Razor to off leash dog parks. Personally I know my dog and it would irresponsible of me to do so. Razor is socialised and a very level dog however regardless of entire or not I don't feel comfortable with numerous dogs who's owners are not always aware. Razor on leash has no problem meeting desexed or entire males and females however. Just answering your question not 'hi-jacking' the thread.'

[Pollywaffle]

Thi topic is wandering all over the place...

[jackie_a1]

Most topics do.

[t-time]

Excessive salivation can be caused by anxiety and/or excitement. I doubt that this bitch is feeling maternal towards these puppies, it is much more likely that she's reacting to having two strange dogs in her territory. I don't think the fact that she's entire is relevant at all. Bringing strange dogs into another's environment will certainly trigger stress in a lot of dogs, but it usually passes as the resident dog adapts to the new arrivals.

Thankyou Miranda! For staying on topic....if you guys want to have the desexing debate, please go elsewhere

OP - I do agree with Miranda. The bitch is either stressed or excited with the new dogs in the environment so it's best to stick with your current arrangements and keep your girl separate.

I may have missed it but how old are your foster pups? And are they staying to be raised with you?

[furballs]

Thanks to all those that have given me replies related to the topic ;)

The pups are 7 weeks old, I have signed up to foster pups which are scheduled to be PTS and they will be fostered out as soon as forever homes can be found. These are my first fosters and I would like to keep doing it but if it's stressing my girl out too much then I will have to stop.

My girl was a lot happier about the pups today, she was interacting with them a lot through their playpen, still salivating but I guess a little less stressed.

For those who like to judge about my girl not being desexed, I agree that there are risks in not desexing but there are also some major health risks in certain breeds when they are desexed too early. As suggested by others, perhaps a new topic needs to be created for those who wish to discuss this.

[Dame Aussie]

ETA: I was being bad and derailing the thread. ;)

Edited April 28, 2010 by Aussie3

[redangel]

Good on you furballs for taking on the pups. Hopefully your girl will settle soon. You sound very considerate of what is going on and seem to be supervising carefully. I applaud your concern for your residing dog, may all go well.(OT-As for the desexing early thing, I wouldnt desex a large breed dog before 12 mths if suitable conditions allowed her to stay 'safe' when in season. Of a larger dog I had desexed early (just under 6 mths) she developed a terrible incontinence problem which under specialist care was possibly partially attributed to her being done so early. One persons opinion and one dog, but it was the vets opinion. )

[Jed]

I understand that you are not attacking anyone, and I am asking this question because I am curious. There is an entire male dog that comes to the park, and it seems that quite a few of the desexed males growl and attack this particular dog, but play nicely with the the other dogs. If you take your boy into these situations, do you find the same thing?

Why on earth do the owners continue to take the poor dog to the dog park?

I have found in the past, that desexed males do tend to get more 'goey' with entire males. Simple solution, stay away from dog parks. ;)

Well, the problem in this case for the poor dog is that the owner is a single guy and he has a dog as a 'chick magnet' (his words). His logic is "he came into this world with balls and he'll leave this world with them. I have since found out that the dog has testicular cancer.

The dog is a scapegoat in this case. He is unhappy at the park, being bullied by desexed boys and used as a magnet. Responsible dog ownership for you.

You've totally railroaded the thread. Are you happy now?

Begin another thread, will you.

[Jed]

The only difference between entire and desexed bitches is that entire bitches come into season, and if mated may have pups.

There can be differences in coats, depending on age desexed, breed etc.

[jackie_a1]

Furballs what breed are the foster pups? And also I'm not sure if you're aware but when you start a post like this. It's actually a written rule that you must post pictures...

I'm afraid if you don't I'll have to report you ;)

[furballs]

The foster kids are kelpie x

[Staranais]

Of a larger dog I had desexed early (just under 6 mths) she developed a terrible incontinence problem which under specialist care was possibly partially attributed to her being done so early. One persons opinion and one dog, but it was the vets opinion. )

You might be interested to know that it's definitely not just one vet's opinion, it's pretty much universally accepted that waiting until a bitch has had at least one season before desexing her reduces the risk she will suffer from incontinence (desexing before the first or second heat dramatically lowers the risk she'll get mammary tumours, though, so like all things there's a compromise to be made there somewhere).

[furballs]

My girl has stopped drooling today and is now looking for the puppies and whining when they're out in the back room. Thank you for your responses, it seems that it was stress after all and she is now comfortable with them being around.