Rach... Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 family member is looking a byb 'pugalier' they are willing to pay $695.. roughly how much would purebreds of either the cav or the pug be and any quick facts about bybs and stats on the crossbreeds and why they would be a no go i dont have much time to try and convince them not to go with this pup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSoSwift Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 Can't help you with all of the questions you have, but When I was researching a Pug on the limited register on a desexing contract was $1500. Not sure about health tests, but they can suffer from a problem with mal formed vertibrae(sp?) in their lower spine. They can also suffer from narrow nostril openings and elongated soft pallets Not sure about a Cavalier. Cav's should come from parents tested free from Mitral valve disease (heart disease) If the puppy is a cross from un-health(highly likely) tested parents you have the potential to all of the potential issues crop up in one dog and that dog may just end up with your friends. Registered pedigree puppies from ethical breeders may cost more in the beginning, however over the life of the dog will cost very little. If the puppy ends up with health issues they may die prematurely or cost a lot of money to maintain starting from an early age. They have back up for life from an ethical breeder. With a DD you pay the money you leave - end of relationship. Any problems or concerns down the track - you are on your own. An ethical breeder is always available and will provide backup (different with each breeder) for the life of the puppy they have bred. A Designer cross breed is kindsa like a lottery - if you lose you may end up with a lot of heartache. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burkes Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 What about a rescue dog instead? Heaps cheaper and they are saving a life. There is this gorgeous little Cav in Perth at the moment. Pet Rescue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wazzat Xolo Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 (edited) oops triple post! Edited May 23, 2010 by Wazzat Xolo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wazzat Xolo Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 (edited) double oops Edited May 23, 2010 by Wazzat Xolo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wazzat Xolo Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 family member is looking a byb 'pugalier' they are willing to pay $695.. roughly how much would purebreds of either the cav or the pug be and any quick facts about bybs and stats on the crossbreeds and why they would be a no goi dont have much time to try and convince them not to go with this pup No No No isnt that what Don Burke promotes I mean who wants what he has got ? what about a purebred ex show dog ( already passed the annoying puppy stage, house trained and so much more bonus points) I am sure there are heaps of breeders on DOL who have ex show dogs and WHY pay all that money for a crossbred dog that may have a myriad of health problems ? A pugalier dear me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luvmy4 Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 I will admit 6yrs ago I thought they were gorgeous,I looked into buying one att they were $750 a pup so we were not bringing in much money so I couldn't not see the point of forking that much on a desingner that hadn't been out long Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luvmy4 Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 as Wazzat Xolo is getting at u don't know the problems u are bring home u might be getting a double banger of both breeds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rach... Posted May 23, 2010 Author Share Posted May 23, 2010 (edited) I have explained that to them... but they keep saying its their choice, which is it. im trying my best. they dont want a pure cav or a pure pug so i dont quite understand why they want a mix.. they have their heart set on a pup Edited May 23, 2010 by Rach... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wazzat Xolo Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 I have explained that to them... but they keep saying its their choice, which is it. im trying my best. they dont want a pure cav or a pure pug so i dont quite understand why they want a mix..they have their heart set on a pup I emailed you heaps of pugs looking for homes and FROM proper breeders! Rach, Good Luck You can only try your best, in the end it is entirely their choice and their money, but remember that, they will choose, you can only offer to educate and always nicer when an education not a harp harp harp. Good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luvmy4 Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 somethings you have no choice but to let a person go, you can only educate them so much the rest they have to do with their own brain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dog geek Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 NO! Have a look at Charles Wentworth's health problems - he is a cav x bred, and his health problems have cost thousands of $$$$ to maintain. Please point out to them that if they get a pup from a puppy farm they are likely to end up with an under-socialised, high-maintenance, hard-to-train nightmare. NOT that I am saying that every pup from these farms is - just that inexperienced puppy owners will not have the skill set necessary to cope IF this is what they purchase. Why not ask them if they would like a Griffon Bruxellois - the smooth ones look quite similar to a cav/pug crossbred, except completely and totally gorgeous!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loving my Oldies Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 (edited) Have a look at AMS thread about questions and see her answers. I will find the thread and link it here. http://www.dolforums.com.au/index.php?showtopic=196236 Edited May 23, 2010 by Mother Moocher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W Sibs Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 NO!Have a look at Charles Wentworth's health problems - he is a cav x bred, and his health problems have cost thousands of $$$$ to maintain. Please point out to them that if they get a pup from a puppy farm they are likely to end up with an under-socialised, high-maintenance, hard-to-train nightmare. NOT that I am saying that every pup from these farms is - just that inexperienced puppy owners will not have the skill set necessary to cope IF this is what they purchase. Why not ask them if they would like a Griffon Bruxellois - the smooth ones look quite similar to a cav/pug crossbred, except completely and totally gorgeous!! Charlie Post 1 Charlie Post 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellatrix Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 Purebred Cavaliers will cost from anywhere between $900-$1200 roughly. Some more, some less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Maclary Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 Poundwatch have a Cav X. They also have 2 Japanese Chins. Poundwatch Dogs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindainfa Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 You know what sometimes it doesnt matter how much information you give people, they just don't care. My friend has been wanting a pure cocker spaniel for months. I gave her a list of all the DOL Breeders, gave her website information on why not to buy from puppy shops because you will be supporting puppy mills etc. And what does she do??? 2 days ago she bought a cocker spaniel from the pet shop. ARGHHHH. All my trying to help her was a waste of time. Apparently she rang alot of melbourne breeders and they all had waiting lists and she was way down the bottom and she didn't want to wait any more. So she rang up pet stores and asked for a Cocker puppy and she got her wish. I was just shocked that she didn't care about the puppy mill issue. If people want something, they really don't care one bit!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shells Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 A friend of mine bought a male cav puppy on the limited register from a registered breeder here in Canberra for $850. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rach... Posted May 24, 2010 Author Share Posted May 24, 2010 I have forwarded all information possible, thankyou everyone for the help =) its up to them now whether they choose to listen. what annoys me is they call me for help with their other pug x cav but they wont listen to me on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wazzat Xolo Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 I have forwarded all information possible, thankyou everyone for the help =) its up to them now whether they choose to listen. what annoys me is they call me for help with their other pug x cav but they wont listen to me on this one. You have done all you can Rach, you are a good person and their loss if they dont heed, hold your head high as a Xolo friend lol! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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