LizT Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 I cant find the post that I read before in this thread but it said something like "PP doesnt care about the consequences for the pup" .Well thank you, because in your words lies the answer to the problem. Next time anyone tries to get a government to ban the sale of cats and dogs in pet shops, CHANGE TACK! Instead of asking for a ban, ask governments to make legislation that makes all pets shops give a Ten Year Warranty on all pups and kittens sold. This will bring insurance companies to the door of pet shops, wanting to sell them specific packages of warranties. Nominated vet clinics will be named in such warranties and so they have a ten years or assured business. You wont be able to get pre-paid treatment at any old vet clinic, just the ones who are linked to the insurance company. Of course the prices of pets that are sold in pet shops with 10 year warranties will probably double overnight. Sorry about that. There is nothing like a major price hike to put people off buying something. Trade Practices Act should have no problem with any of this. It is no different to buying a car or a computer with an extended warranty, that you, the purchaser pay for when you buy the goods. Don't know why I never thought of this before. Pet shops will always sell pets in pet shops. That is how they make their money. Well, it is probably time to up the stakes for them and make pet shop puppies a whole lot more expensive to buy because they come with a warranty, and make insurance companies a whole lot richer too. If they are not selling as quickly, they wont need to be produced in such numbers by the puppy farmers and the puppy farmers might just have to find something else to do to make a buck. Souff BRILLIANT suggestion, Souff! Except that they will also make Registered Breeders give a 10 year "warranty' and despite the best health checks, screenings etc. you CANNOT give a guarantee on the lifetime of any animal, nor should a breeder be expected to. No, no, this special deal in legislation is only to be for PET SHOPS. Breeders who sell from home and do not have the retail trade going past their door do not have the same selling advantages as pet shops you see, so breeders and their organisations must ask the nice men and women in parliament to exempt them from the warranty because it is just a HOBBY. This one is only for pet shops who have COMMERCIAL premises. Pet shops cannot say that they have a hobby, they have a retail business, and therein lies the difference. If I buy a used car from a car dealer, in many states of Australia the dealership legally has to give me a warranty on that car. If I buy a used car from the bloke around the corner, he does not have to give me a warranty because it is a private sale and I take the risk, not him. If the laws about warranties on used cars have changed again (cos I havent looked lately) then please let me know. Now, where are all those groups who want pet shops to stop selling puppies ........ Souff My concern was every time new legislation is brought in it seems to hit the legitimate breeders harder and faster rather than the BYB's, pet shops, puppy mills etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poodlemum Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 I cover mine for any problems shown to be inherited. Obviously not for accidents. I also offer (as I know most breeders do) to take the puppy back, or try to re-home it, if they are unable to keep it. I'm also happy to board "my" puppies - try finding a petshop that will do this, or one you can phone at 10:00 pm because your puppy is behaving strangely :laugh: OK - even if they only made it a 1 year warranty, I'm sure that would take the gloss of it for the Petshops - I don't know about other breeders, but I do this already. Interesting...what does this "warranty" cover? You would have to be very careful as it could be open to abuse by certain types. But yes, certainly would take the shine off Pet Shop Puppies. That is for somebody else to work out, not me. Done my bit. Will now return to being the laundry slave and dog food maker. Souff No I was asking Poodlemum what her warranty covers as I'm in the process of putting together contracts and puppy packs for my bubs. I did 5 loads this weekend ! As above! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LizT Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 I cover mine for any problems shown to be inherited. Obviously not for accidents. I also offer (as I know most breeders do) to take the puppy back, or try to re-home it, if they are unable to keep it. I'm also happy to board "my" puppies - try finding a petshop that will do this, or one you can phone at 10:00 pm because your puppy is behaving strangely :laugh: No I was asking Poodlemum what her warranty covers as I'm in the process of putting together contracts and puppy packs for my bubs. I did 5 loads this weekend ! As above! Got it! Ta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Souff Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 My concern was every time new legislation is brought in it seems to hit the legitimate breeders harder and faster rather than the BYB's, pet shops, puppy mills etc. I suppose if the registered breeders wanted to be pro-active they could actually be the ones initiating the legislation, protecting their market and keeping their end covered at the same time. Now, that would be radical eh? Souff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Anne~ Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 Speaking of pet shops - I saw a sight that horrified me a tad today. A well known pet shop in Parramatta Westfields. The bottom glass cage was covered in newspaper so you couldnt view inside and a sign on the outside stated something along the lines of "We are being treated for an illness. Please feel free to ask the staff questions" I didn't ask questions as I was too horrified. An illnesss? WHAT illness requires you to totally cover the glass in newspaper, but leave the dogs well within the public arena? I peeked through and could see only one dog, a black Lab looking pup, no sign of diarrohoea or vomit in the cage. The poor dog could not see anything but newspaper. How absurd. Can anyone shed light on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liath Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 My forever friend died on the 1st Sept and I was going to the petshop to get a dose of cuteness just to fill a void. While there I would tell people who were goggling at the puppies that its cheaper and far safer to buy one from a good breeder. Why on earth pay 900+ for a puppy who you have no idea where it came from. We recently purchased a beautifull little girl from a breeder far cheaper then from the a pet shop. We were able to view the parents and other offspring, meet the breeders and we have backup if we need it by phone and email. We have been in constant contact with them asking questions that they have been more then happy to answer. Our baby girl is happy, healthy and well adjusted pup which she should be as she came from a caring environment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Souff Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 Speaking of pet shops - I saw a sight that horrified me a tad today.A well known pet shop in Parramatta Westfields. The bottom glass cage was covered in newspaper so you couldnt view inside and a sign on the outside stated something along the lines of "We are being treated for an illness. Please feel free to ask the staff questions" I didn't ask questions as I was too horrified. An illnesss? WHAT illness requires you to totally cover the glass in newspaper, but leave the dogs well within the public arena? I peeked through and could see only one dog, a black Lab looking pup, no sign of diarrohoea or vomit in the cage. The poor dog could not see anything but newspaper. How absurd. Can anyone shed light on this? Oh, the back room and the freezer was probably already full Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussielover Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 Speaking of pet shops - I saw a sight that horrified me a tad today.A well known pet shop in Parramatta Westfields. The bottom glass cage was covered in newspaper so you couldnt view inside and a sign on the outside stated something along the lines of "We are being treated for an illness. Please feel free to ask the staff questions" I didn't ask questions as I was too horrified. An illnesss? WHAT illness requires you to totally cover the glass in newspaper, but leave the dogs well within the public arena? I peeked through and could see only one dog, a black Lab looking pup, no sign of diarrohoea or vomit in the cage. The poor dog could not see anything but newspaper. How absurd. Can anyone shed light on this? How strange. I hate that pet shop- it is horrible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusky Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 2 out of 3 Italian greyhound puppies are still in the Midland Gate (WA) pet shop. Poor little things look quite stressed. $900 and first vaccination is all I could find out. :p I hate that pet shop! I am sure they hate me cause I always go in and mouth off about puppy farms, health testing ect. so pleased you do midland gate, I have carousel covered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RallyValley Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 (edited) 2 out of 3 Italian greyhound puppies are still in the Midland Gate (WA) pet shop. Poor little things look quite stressed. $900 and first vaccination is all I could find out. I hate that pet shop! I am sure they hate me cause I always go in and mouth off about puppy farms, health testing ect. :p so pleased you do midland gate, I have carousel covered ;) I don't go there very often though cause I always feel like crying after I see the pups Edited October 11, 2010 by valleyCBR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussielover Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 Speaking of pet shops - I saw a sight that horrified me a tad today.A well known pet shop in Parramatta Westfields. The bottom glass cage was covered in newspaper so you couldnt view inside and a sign on the outside stated something along the lines of "We are being treated for an illness. Please feel free to ask the staff questions" I didn't ask questions as I was too horrified. An illnesss? WHAT illness requires you to totally cover the glass in newspaper, but leave the dogs well within the public arena? I peeked through and could see only one dog, a black Lab looking pup, no sign of diarrohoea or vomit in the cage. The poor dog could not see anything but newspaper. How absurd. Can anyone shed light on this? How strange. I hate that pet shop- it is horrible ;) Me and a freind got kicked out of that one for making loud comments about how sickly the pups looked and why would you pay $2000 for a mutt with no health testing and socialisation. And I really couldn't help myself when the girl (who looked about 15) was telling some customers that labs are low energy and practically come trained- you know like guide dogs :p I shared some info on what it was like actually having a guide dog puppy and the people loked horrified, I think i managed to put them off (ok, so i exaggerated a bit) I then mentioned that those labs didn't even look purebred to me and was escorted out of the shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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