mumtoshelley Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Hi everyone I'm getting some whole rabbits minus the guts and fur. I do have a question tho how much should I feed? Should both my golden retrievers get 1 rabbit each for the whole day or half a rabbit each? How much should I give to Missy my whippet and Rascal my chihuahua? My dogs haven't had rabbit before so I'm trying them out to see if my guys like it. If they do I may buy them more often or when I can get them. I'm getting 4 rabbits for $20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salukifan Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Hi everyone I'm getting some whole rabbits minus the guts and fur. I do have a question tho how much should I feed? Should both my golden retrievers get 1 rabbit each for the whole day or half a rabbit each? How much should I give to Missy my whippet and Rascal my chihuahua? My dogs haven't had rabbit before so I'm trying them out to see if my guys like it. If they do I may buy them more often or when I can get them. I'm getting 4 rabbits for $20. You will have to weigh your dogs and the rabbits. Missy - 3-5% of her bodyweight PER DAY (not per meal) The Goldens 2-3% The Chi - no more than 2% You can still make and keep a dog fat on rabbit if you overfeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mumtoshelley Posted February 11, 2012 Author Share Posted February 11, 2012 Hi everyone I'm getting some whole rabbits minus the guts and fur. I do have a question tho how much should I feed? Should both my golden retrievers get 1 rabbit each for the whole day or half a rabbit each? How much should I give to Missy my whippet and Rascal my chihuahua? My dogs haven't had rabbit before so I'm trying them out to see if my guys like it. If they do I may buy them more often or when I can get them. I'm getting 4 rabbits for $20. You will have to weigh your dogs and the rabbits. Missy - 3-5% of her bodyweight PER DAY (not per meal) The Goldens 2-3% The Chi - no more than 2% You can still make and keep a dog fat on rabbit if you overfeed. Ok thanks I'll weigh the rabbits when I get them, 2% of what shelley should weigh it says I should feed her 560grams I was thinking 400grams is plenty for her, Buddy it says 740grams which I think is way too much and will probably feed the same amount as Shelley, Missy says 265 grams at 2.5%. Rascal 60grams at 2%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifi Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Rabbit is the only meat / carcass my dogs weren't interested in they just kept burying them and playing with them. Even when I hid a few chunks of rabbit meat in their dinner it was left. And these are dogs raised on a high portion of raw. Also make sure of your source, check that they are farmed or killed on non rabbit baiting farm areas. Hope your dogs love them :) fifi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mumtoshelley Posted February 11, 2012 Author Share Posted February 11, 2012 thats why I wanted to try them first to see if they like them. I'm still researching raw feeding, Should I give them a RMB everyday or every 2 or 3rd day? If I was going to feed 400grams does this sound alright for each day for the goldens 150grams of beef pieces 150grams of lamb,ox heart 100grams of organ for Missy my whippet at 3% 109grams of beef pieces 109grams of lamb,ox heart 100grams of organ For rascal 20grams of beef pieces 20grams of lamb,ox heart 20grams of organ If I feed a RMB eachday I'll only half that amount. Is this still too much organ for them? if so how much organ should I give them weekly in grams? I already buy turkey wings/necks,chicken wings,chicken frames and chicken necks. I can get ox cheek pieces and lamb flaps cut up too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erny Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Mumtoshelley - is this a private or commercial source? I've been trying to source some and the only (pure) rabbit meat I've been able to get had preservatives (pet quality). ..... oh, other than from the local supermarket - cleaned - and they charged $20 per kilogram!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salukifan Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 As Espinay and others have pointed out, that is far too much organ meat. Organs shouldn't be more than 10% of the diet. I don't know where you are doing your research but Dr Billinghurst's The Barf Diet would be a good book to buy. The first concept to grasp is that raw meaty bones are the BASIS of a raw diet. So much meat without bone is not balanced. You should probably base the diet on rabbit and chicken meat ON THE BONE. This is a prey model diet but personally I'd be concerned about the lack of fibre in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florise Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Can you possibly confine all your food questions to one thread? You currently have FOUR separate raw feeding topics in progress on the first page in this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mumtoshelley Posted February 11, 2012 Author Share Posted February 11, 2012 Mumtoshelley - is this a private or commercial source? I've been trying to source some and the only (pure) rabbit meat I've been able to get had preservatives (pet quality). ..... oh, other than from the local supermarket - cleaned - and they charged $20 per kilogram!! Private source he catches them for human food too. I can also get cleaned rabbits for $8 each at one butchers when they get them, another butcher wants $15 per rabbit cleaned. I thought it would be too much meat not enough bone and too much organ, I thought they needed some organ with each meal. This is getting confusing for me. So raw meaty bone with some other musscle meat do I put just a little organ or give a full meal of organ once a week. If anyone got some reciepes would be great. Also would fish oil or emu oil be better or both. I do plan on giving a raw whole egg,mackerel,sardines or salmon once or twice a week. I'm all new to this and am quite slow when it comes to learning which is why i'm on the pension so please be nice. I know I need to feed 80% musscle meat 10% bone 10% organ but just finding the reciepe to feed my dogs is a bit difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erny Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 (edited) Private source he catches them for human food too. I can also get cleaned rabbits for $8 each at one butchers when they get them, another butcher wants $15 per rabbit cleaned. What location are these butchers in? I'd like to go there to get some rabbit if they aren't ridiculously far away :). ETA: I'm not a canine dietician but as a general rule I tend to think in terms of what my dog has had in a week, rather than what he has had every day. If that's any help to you. Edited February 11, 2012 by Erny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mumtoshelley Posted February 11, 2012 Author Share Posted February 11, 2012 Theres one in merbein vic 3505 and one in mildura 3500 probably a bit far if your in melbourne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erny Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Phooey. Yes .... a bit far. Thanks anyway, for letting me know. If I'm ever passing through that way I'll keep them in mind :). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Mum to Shelley ... I posted this link earlier for you CLICK HERE ..because it has all the information you need .. types of food, quantities, recipies , nutritional value .... have you read through it yet? it seems you haven't ;) Raw whole rabbits are great!! bet your dogs enjoy them :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mason_Gibbs Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 My 33kg male lab das about 350-400g of meat a day. Plus 2 tablespoons of VAN, hope this helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nekhbet Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 If he's a ferreter you could ask him to leave the skin on. In gutting he should be able to leave all the organs in bar the 'pooey' bits. We usually take the intestines/blood out straight away when killed the leave the rest of the organs in for the dogs. Man he's making a fortune on those rabbits I better get back into it ASAP at that price! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erny Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Man he's making a fortune on those rabbits I better get back into it ASAP at that price! I think I'd like to be your customer, Nekhbet :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Clover Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 I would love some as well Nekh if you get back into it :). Ballarat is so bad for getting raw foods for the dogs, chicken and beef is about the extent of it then you get ripped off for everything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mumtoshelley Posted February 13, 2012 Author Share Posted February 13, 2012 (edited) Well rabbit did go down to well with my dogs SHelley ate some then walked away,Buddy had a little bit then walked away, Missy had some licks then left, Rascal didn't even touch it. So I have 1 and half rabbits out of 2 rabbits left which my sister is going to see if her dogs will eat. Missy my whippet was hoping for chicken or turkey lol. Edited February 13, 2012 by mumtoshelley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erny Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Don't give up. With new tastes, introduce them a bit at a time. What they at first walk away from they may come to enjoy. Some foods can be an acquired taste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salukifan Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Well rabbit did go down to well with my dogs SHelley ate some then walked away,Buddy had a little bit then walked away, Missy had some licks then left, Rascal didn't even touch it. So I have 1 and half rabbits out of 2 rabbits left which my sister is going to see if her dogs will eat. Missy my whippet was hoping for chicken or turkey lol. Fast them for 24 hours and try again. A bit of hunger can often overcome reluctance to try a new food. And heaven knows, it won't hurt them. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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