rubiton Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 I find SA pretty good - we use to be in the Charles Sturt Council area and I complained a few tiems about a pair of dogs that use to rush us at the park as the owner thought it was funny rather than controlling his agressive dogs (they were not human aggressivde though and were smart enough to run when threatened to be a football) - last time I saw them they were on leads and being walked so i assume council eventually had a chat to the owner. When two dogs rushed out of a house property and one didnt connect with my dog only due to me landing a kick to the shoulder they investigated and reminded the owner of their obligations (a second dog had had a go before but stayed inside its property). when a big dog that was quite imposing (read scary to some and had no road sense at dusk) was out wandering they were there at night out looking for it x at least 2 vehicles. Where I am now they have bags everywhere that dogs are walked that are refilled weekly and provide bins in various spots for the used bags to go in. And dont forget in Sa unlike at least Qld and perhaps elsewhere if an animal gets into your secure backyard and takes on your dog and gets injured your dog has a defence (as do you as an owner who had a dog securely contained). Same if an intruder comes in from memory too. Other states will declare a dog dangerous without any thought to circumstances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 I voted NT simply because there is almost zero legislation restricting dogs. Unfortunately, there is pretty much zero everything else in support of dogs unless you live smack in the middle of one of the two cities (no offense to all those brave Territorians DOLers who live there and love it!) I live in the NT and Palmerston is very strict about how many dogs you are allowed to keep. I was told to not even bother applying for a permit to keep more than 2 dogs because it wouldn't be approved. It must depend on who you're mates with as I've been told by a couple of people that they got their permit with no problems and no 'exceptional circumstances' having to be given but they are mates with someone on the council or a ranger This is the problem everywhere - its not the state laws on dog ownership but the planning laws in each shire which is really open to corruption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 just out of curiousity how much is your life-time rego in nsw? and is it a lot more for entire dogs? last time I looked it was $40 for ANKC members, MDBA members and AAPDB Members or for a desexed dog - some pensioner discounts too. Others its $140 . Many breeders register the dogs under their memberships and then the dogs go home with no rego expenses for the rest of their lives even though they are entire and no longer live with the person who had the exemptions. No transfer fees or increase in rego. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Arcane Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 I find from a social aspect SA isn't that dog friendly really. I do however LOVE the general dog number limit that we have here. yes, you saw right, I LOVE it. In SA the number of dogs in pounds/shelters/rescues etc is pretty low and I know if we ever went away from the general 1 or 2 dog limit, the welfare of dogs in SA would decline dramatically and numbers in rehoming environments would skyrocket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SparkyTansy Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 What bothers me about WA (and probably same in some other states) is the varying rules of councils and the fact that some councils make it easier than others for permits etc. I like that they have a couple of good kennel zones but it's pretty difficult to afford to live in them now if starting out. There are a lot of dog beaches, dog parks and many councils have bags etc all the time. There is a lot of dog friendly accommodation down south. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odin-Genie Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Our local ranger loves to give our APBT a pat and cuddle.... NSW :) Sounds like a nomination to me. www.mdbaawards,net.au We have a new category too - Best Dog Friendly Local council too. Perhaps the council should be nominated. It would reinforce good behaviour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odin-Genie Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 I think NSW/sydney could be a little better in terms of accommodating for dogs, like drinking taps at parks, we can almost never find any.... I think an increase of fenced dog parks per suburb or area would be a great thing to see as well.... there are hardly any dog parks fenced or unfenced near me and i live in gladesville so its pretty central... or maybe I just dont know where they are Where I live (upper north shore) there are about six dog parks within 20 minutes driving range. All of them have taps, poo bags and bins. Most cafes around this area also allow you to sit at the outside area with your dogs. We regularly take our dogs out to dinner with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minxy Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 I've been happy with QLD so far, but I only own one dog and aren't involved in any activities as such, so there hasn't been an opportunity oft problems for me. I am very much in favour of dog limits (without obtaining a permit for more) and would hate to see these restrictions dropped. Until this thread I had never heard of lifetime registration which I think is a good idea. It sounds incredibly cheap compared to here. My last council had reasonable fees - I think it was $20 per year and this covered you for 12 months from when you paid. In my new council, the fees are higher. If I was to register a dog now I would only be covered until September and the cost was still around $20 to register just until then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emgem Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 I think NSW/sydney could be a little better in terms of accommodating for dogs, like drinking taps at parks, we can almost never find any.... I think an increase of fenced dog parks per suburb or area would be a great thing to see as well.... there are hardly any dog parks fenced or unfenced near me and i live in gladesville so its pretty central... or maybe I just dont know where they are Where I live (upper north shore) there are about six dog parks within 20 minutes driving range. All of them have taps, poo bags and bins. Most cafes around this area also allow you to sit at the outside area with your dogs. We regularly take our dogs out to dinner with us. And in some inner city areas like City of Sydney and Liechhardt Council, there are off leash parks within a fifteen minute walk of most properties. Most of these are shared spaces and not fenced and may be time limited, but I think the ease of access makes for better socialized dogs and less dig on dog aggression. It certainly seems rare from my perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic.B Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 I know a nice little cottage on 3 acres - rural NSW going cheap. http://www.dolforums.com.au/public/style_emoticons/default/rofl1.gif Norty! But gosh I laughed!! I would have to say NSW, VIC is the most worrying for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sausy.dog Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 I find from a social aspect SA isn't that dog friendly really. I do however LOVE the general dog number limit that we have here. yes, you saw right, I LOVE it. In SA the number of dogs in pounds/shelters/rescues etc is pretty low and I know if we ever went away from the general 1 or 2 dog limit, the welfare of dogs in SA would decline dramatically and numbers in rehoming environments would skyrocket. Thats a massive generalisation. I don't really understand how the number of dogs allowed correlates with more dogs in pounds and shelters. Is there data that supports this in other states? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Arcane Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 yes it is a generalisation, but after having worked with dogs in SA for over 25 yrs now I can see quite clearly that we are quite well off compared to some other states when it comes to the number of dogs in rehoming environments. Take a look just at pet rescue NSW currently has 1273 dogs listed, SA has 90. AWL has 2 shelters where there are rarely more than 20 dogs for adoption, and RSPCA has a couple of shelters around the state also with quite low numbers. Add a handful of private rescue (which mostly are the dogs on pet rescue) and on any given day in SA it would be hard to find more than 200 dogs in rehoming environments. I am certain that our number limit is a key element in why our numbers stay comparatively low. I'm also pretty sure if we loosened the limit the rehoming numbers will escalate in kind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCheekyMonster Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 I think NSW/sydney could be a little better in terms of accommodating for dogs, like drinking taps at parks, we can almost never find any.... I think an increase of fenced dog parks per suburb or area would be a great thing to see as well.... there are hardly any dog parks fenced or unfenced near me and i live in gladesville so its pretty central... or maybe I just dont know where they are Where I live (upper north shore) there are about six dog parks within 20 minutes driving range. All of them have taps, poo bags and bins. Most cafes around this area also allow you to sit at the outside area with your dogs. We regularly take our dogs out to dinner with us. And in some inner city areas like City of Sydney and Liechhardt Council, there are off leash parks within a fifteen minute walk of most properties. Most of these are shared spaces and not fenced and may be time limited, but I think the ease of access makes for better socialized dogs and less dig on dog aggression. It certainly seems rare from my perspective. WHERE!!!hahah I have never been able to find any!! someone PM me some awesome parks in this general area! please and thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sayreovi Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 yes it is a generalisation, but after having worked with dogs in SA for over 25 yrs now I can see quite clearly that we are quite well off compared to some other states when it comes to the number of dogs in rehoming environments. Take a look just at pet rescue NSW currently has 1273 dogs listed, SA has 90. AWL has 2 shelters where there are rarely more than 20 dogs for adoption, and RSPCA has a couple of shelters around the state also with quite low numbers. Add a handful of private rescue (which mostly are the dogs on pet rescue) and on any given day in SA it would be hard to find more than 200 dogs in rehoming environments. I am certain that our number limit is a key element in why our numbers stay comparatively low. I'm also pretty sure if we loosened the limit the rehoming numbers will escalate in kind. That may be the case, but you would need to take into account the human population as well. Just quickly checked and NSW has over 7 million people and SA has just over 1 million. This would be more the reason why lack of dog numbers in SA pounds rather than dog limit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Arcane Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 absolutely, there are several elements affecting the number of dogs in rehoming environments across the country. I would however bet my house on it that if we ever loosened the 1/2 dog limit we would very quickly have many many more poorly cared for dogs & many more dogs being rehomed in SA I have had clients express to me so many times that they'd love it if they could have more dogs, or they wish they could 'save them all'.....as they hand over their poorly socialised byb matted all over treasure of a pet. These are not people who should be allowed to choose to own as many dogs as they desire. A 'one rule for them, one rule for us' will never work so I am all in favour of the limit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aetherglow Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 What about Victoria then, where almost all councils have a 2 dog limit (certainly in the Melbourne metro area) and there are over 700 dogs on Pet Rescue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dee lee Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 (edited) And in some inner city areas like City of Sydney and Liechhardt Council, there are off leash parks within a fifteen minute walk of most properties. Most of these are shared spaces and not fenced and may be time limited, but I think the ease of access makes for better socialized dogs and less dig on dog aggression. It certainly seems rare from my perspective. WHERE!!!hahah I have never been able to find any!! someone PM me some awesome parks in this general area! please and thank you City of Sydney parks Leichhardt council brochure, including dog parks There is also centennial park & Sydney park if you care to venture a little further. I live in the inner east and am spoilt for choice in regards to offlead areas. Admittedly, none are fenced, but that's not a problem for me. I also find the local businesses are very dog friendly. My dog & I haven't ever been turned away from the outdoor area of a cafe (in fact she is a beloved regular at several), & even many pubs are welcoming to dogs- mostly ones with on street outdoor seating, but a couple even allow dogs through to their interior courtyards. Of course it's a given that your dog is well behaved and doesn't bother other patrons. Edited July 13, 2012 by dee lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumabaar Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 yes it is a generalisation, but after having worked with dogs in SA for over 25 yrs now I can see quite clearly that we are quite well off compared to some other states when it comes to the number of dogs in rehoming environments. Take a look just at pet rescue NSW currently has 1273 dogs listed, SA has 90. AWL has 2 shelters where there are rarely more than 20 dogs for adoption, and RSPCA has a couple of shelters around the state also with quite low numbers. Add a handful of private rescue (which mostly are the dogs on pet rescue) and on any given day in SA it would be hard to find more than 200 dogs in rehoming environments. I am certain that our number limit is a key element in why our numbers stay comparatively low. I'm also pretty sure if we loosened the limit the rehoming numbers will escalate in kind. That may be the case, but you would need to take into account the human population as well. Just quickly checked and NSW has over 7 million people and SA has just over 1 million. This would be more the reason why lack of dog numbers in SA pounds rather than dog limit. I agree- even the social demographics of people in SA would vary greatly compared to NSW. I don't think there are a large percentage of people in NSW that do have more than two as most councils advise people they can only have two dogs even though they can not actually prevent them having more- so most people here think they have similar regulations to SA. I think there is far more going on than just an arbitrary limit on numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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