Mystiqview Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 I was given a recipe awhile ago to use a safer paste to weight the tips of collie ears. It had Whiting (white snowcal powder), stockholm tar and castor oil in it. The recipe I had was to mix equal ingredients of the above. I think however much less liquid is used. I have tried a google search, without much luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowanbree Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 I have always used Cement powder and old engine oil and find it brilliant. It can be applied 2-3 days prior to the show and just flakes off the day of the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystiqview Posted January 12, 2014 Author Share Posted January 12, 2014 Thank you. While I am not against taping ears etc. cement and engine oil are both pretty hard chemicals. This one is easy to get out too and is no way near as harsh on the skin. I was given some awhile back and I have nearly used it up and am needing to make more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piper Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 I have seen cement powder and leather softener mixed together and used. Didn't seem to dry it out or cause any issues, I am guessing the leather softener assisted with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowanbree Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 I and all of my sheltie breeder friends have been using it for many years, have never had a dog react to it. Of course you are actually applying it to the hair, not really the skin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teak Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Whitening mixed with enough glycerine to make a paste works very well. Once applied to the ear tip adding some extra whitening to set it finishes the job nicely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC Crazy Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Mystiqview, at the risk of souding like a total dope may I ask exactly what tipping a bc's ears is ? Does it stop them from going pointy or something? I have only ever seen a GSD puppy with it's ears tapped before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ness Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Yep to tape stop them from pricking. Although in the US some breeders tape them to prick. I guess it all depends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC Crazy Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Oh thanks ness :) I thought it may have been the case. Stella has one flat ear & the other is perfect. Not that it matters as she is no show pony :laugh: Maybe I should have done something with it when she was little to help it sit in the perfect envelope shape her other one is. I didn't know BC folks did correctional ear work, just thought it was more for the likes of GSD's etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystiqview Posted January 15, 2014 Author Share Posted January 15, 2014 (edited) Whitening mixed with enough glycerine to make a paste works very well. Once applied to the ear tip adding some extra whitening to set it finishes the job nicely. Thanks heaps. BC crazy, Yeah, Munch is in the last stages of losing teeth. Her breeder wants to show her in two weeks... Got home from work last week to find one ear standing up. Whiting/snowcal is just calcium carbonate. They use it in line marking on sports fields. Much nicer than cement. Edited January 15, 2014 by Mystiqview Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC Crazy Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Munch, great name :) ... So they loose points for ears not quite correct? Suppose it would depend on the judge wouldn't it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystiqview Posted January 16, 2014 Author Share Posted January 16, 2014 Her real name is Scarlet. It took us awhile to name her, she was known as "munchkin" although she did and does like to munch on anything so it has been shortened to "munch" she responds more to this than her real name. Yeah pricked ears are a fault. You can kinda get away with heavy ears, depending on what else is in the ring, but pricked- don't bother. It was just probably something with teething as she is still just 4.5 months. I don't think her owner/breeder would be happy if I didn't do something to stop em pricking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC Crazy Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Stella has one heavy ear. It is just flat. Her other one is perfect. Her dad has the exact same flat ear on the same side. I thought it may correct itself as it started when she was 4.5 months as well but it didn't. So pricked ears are the big 'no no' then. Sonny's go a bit pricked at times but usually they are almost correct. They seem to have gone slightly pricked at times after he turned about 4ish. Gee they are very strict with their likes /dislikes in the show ring then. I would love to get into it maybe one day so all this sort of thing interest me. Thanks for sharing :) Scarlet sounds very pretty.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piper Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Whitening mixed with enough glycerine to make a paste works very well. Once applied to the ear tip adding some extra whitening to set it finishes the job nicely. Thanks heaps. BC crazy, Yeah, Munch is in the last stages of losing teeth. Her breeder wants to show her in two weeks... Got home from work last week to find one ear standing up. Whiting/snowcal is just calcium carbonate. They use it in line marking on sports fields. Much nicer than cement. I was trying to work out what it was. Cool - we have heaps of that at work if I ever have 1 that needs it. I am guessing mixing it with leather softener would work as well then like the cement powder does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystiqview Posted January 17, 2014 Author Share Posted January 17, 2014 Scarlet: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC Crazy Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 She's lovely Mystiqview :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystiqview Posted January 20, 2014 Author Share Posted January 20, 2014 I have worked out the formula for the gunk to stick ears. It has always bothered me, sticking things like cement and sump oil on as both of these substances are quite harsh and remove the natural oils to the skin. Whiting/snowcal is sodium bicarbonate. It is non toxic and is used for a variety of uses including being mixed with water to do line marking. Castor oil and Stockholm tar. Mix snowcal with oil to make a paste. Add enough Stockholm tar to make the paste tacky, without being solid. Place goop on ears and then pat powdered chalk or cornstarch (talcum) powder to dry. It simply washes and combs out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC Crazy Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 (edited) Mystiqview, quick question what do you do with a flat ear to help it stand up again? Is it doable? Just would like to know for future reference. Can't fix Stella's as she isn't a puppy, she's 3 but if I ever get another pup with this issue I will be able to correct it early :) Edited January 21, 2014 by BC Crazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystiqview Posted January 21, 2014 Author Share Posted January 21, 2014 BC. I have never been successful with bracing ears that way. There are a few methods of frames or braces, cut out cardboard bits taped on the ear. But you need to really start at 8 weeks and go nearly to 6 months. Much harder if you have more than one dog as they tend to pull it out while playing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC Crazy Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 It's funny cause Stella's ears were perfect till she was about 6 months,then one just went flat. Yes the bracing sounds quite difficult & keeping it on a bc puppy would be next to impossible. Thanks for sharing your experience :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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