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I'd like that ******** to be left locked in a car for a week.

From a Courier Mail article -

Just read this on FB and my stomach dropped. There is something seriously wrong with this man. Maybe he left Arnie in the ute so long while he was at his mates that he was already deceased and he had to come up with a story around it? I personally didn't agree with that part of it given we live in QLD and it gets hot but understand some dogs are used to being contained that way and we weren't provided a lot of detail around the time frame of it. It's just a sad and sorry clusterf*** however you look at it.

That owner should be banned from ever owning another dog. Unbelievable cruelty.

Update 1: Stolen vehicle and family dog appeal, Wynnum QPS Media on Nov 20, 2025 @ 9:55am QPS FB page...https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1K2PZZPonn/ Bayside Criminal Investigation Branch detectives have concluded investigations into the alleged theft of a vehicle, containing Arnie the German Shepard, from Wynnum on Saturday 8 November. The owner of the vehicle has assisted police with these investigations, and it has now been established that a criminal offence of unlawful use of motor vehicle has not occurred. It will be alleged shortly after 10.30pm on 7 November, the male owner drove the vehicle into Amelia Street in Fortitude Valley and left the vehicle on foot. It will be further alleged that Arnie was left inside the vehicle. Police allege the following morning the male owner advised his partner that the vehicle had been stolen from a Wynnum address. The female owner subsequently reported the matter to police. Investigators will allege that the woman was not aware that the vehicle had not in fact been stolen. At 4pm on 17 November, a member of the public located the vehicle parked on Amelia Street in Fortitude Valley. Arnie was located deceased inside the vehicle. Following extensive investigations, yesterday evening the 43-year-old male owner was charged with one count of breach of duty of care of animal by failing to provide under the Animal Protection Act. The matter is expected to appear before a Brisbane Court next month. Investigations remain ongoing. Media and the public are thanked for their extensive assistance throughout the investigation. Police are aware this has been a highly publicised case, and offences of this nature may cause distress and upset members of the public. The Queensland Police Service (QPS) requests that the public are respectful of the matter’s progression through the courts. The QPS takes animal care seriously. Any reports of a breach of a duty of care towards animals will be taken seriously and fully investigated.

Where's the panic?

I fostered a Lab/GR cross that had to have TPLO. I confined him to a large puppy pen while he recovered. He was such a good boy and coped pretty well with the confinement. During his recovery, I also took on a mum dog with her pups, and he wasn't too worried that she was free and he wasn't. She'd come and give him kisses, and even brought her pups to visit with him too. The hardest part was supporting a 31kg dog's back end going out for potty breaks... I have a few back steps we had to negotiate that was hard work until he was allowed to slowly walk up and down them himself. I definitely recommend getting a proper sling for that job. T.

I'm trying to decide whether to get cruciate surgery for Yoli. She spends about half her time on the sofa or on my bed. I can't figure out how I'll manage to keep her from jumping up for six weeks or more, especially as I have a second dog, and it's hard to restrict one and not the other. If you have done TPLO or MMP (I'm considering both), how have you coped with the post-op routine. Do you make ramps so they can get up without jumping? Or ban them from the bedroom so they can't jump up while you're asleep?

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/home/pets/new-initiative-launched-in-honour-of-beloved-dog-found-dead-inside-stolen-car/news-story/2de79d4547ff982bcd647f7c49839e65

The laws are only coming into full effect on Dec 1. They were updated in November 2024, and all relevant breeder organisations were fully aware of it back then... why the panic now? T.

https://www.9news.com.au/national/new-nsw-puppy-laws-2025-breeder-identification-numbers-litter-limits-selling-rules-everything-to-know-explained/718be85f-f47b-48ec-8fa3-c80d184462c9

https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=1256849663154943&set=a.602637001909549 still doesn't address the fact that out of the 500,000 known must be born annually (from the census figures of how many millions of australians have a pet dog or cat) the ankc members australia wide bred only 75,000 doubt any of the other pet registries bred much more so that only accounts for some 150,000 of the 350,000 under the radar and would account for the fact that on average 90% of lost dogs scanned dont have a chip..despite chipping ALL puppies bred before being sold has been law for over 30 years now, correct me if I'm wrong!........ so there is still over 300,000 bred and sold by untraceable people............... the under the radar will be the only ones left at this rate. I dont know anyone who wants to become a registered breeder now. to pass the pocta inspection your a puppy farm... no hobby breeders now.. the time line for extinction of registered (both ankc and pet registered) dogs boasted by Peta is well on track. its only the black market that will remain total joke, no crackdown on illegal breeding.. only elimination of registered breeders as peta boasted was well on track in 2020 as the spokesperson said, "legislation to date has been so successful is on track to the extinction of the domestic dog and cat within this generation" so anything else being passed in the last 5 years is just to speed up the process. my vet told me they were not talking the human generation, they mean the pets generation, in 2020 his belief 2040 is more the time line.... considering how many people owe their sanity to their pets, going to be a disaster for mental health facilities...... The policitions and the pet loving people of australia are being blindsided into sending their much loved pets into extinction following the call to eliminate puppy farms when the real agenda is exactly what that peta spokesperson said on air in 2020 prior to that years melbourn cup. is there time to wake up and stop this? If richard miller was right, its passed that line already.

Car thieves are too much in a hurry to look in the back. They've even driven off with children in the back seat.

Yes LG, I would check Arnie's page a couple of times each day and truly never thought he'd be found dead in the ute, such a shock and terribly sad, that beautiful much-loved intelligent dog just left there locked up, he must have been so confused as to why his dad hadn't come for him.

My head wont stop thinking about what happened. Maybe once he realised it wasn't his owner he got a bit aggressive and they were too scared to open the door (it may have been locked too). Maybe he hurt himself trying to get to them? I absolutely don't want to think about the other possibility. But why couldn't they have left the vehicle in like a small shopping complex with high foot traffic where someone would've heard and noticed a dog left in a car much quicker? People are so saddened and angry about this up here. They want blood. It's just one step too far for people to accept with pointless crime. Clearly a large dog in your car is not a deterrent to theft.

they could have opened the door- poor Arnie. I hope the offender is found!

Just horrible. As his owner, you would be turning your mind inside out imagining Arnie's possible suffering.

Thanks for taking the time to create and account and reply, appreciate it. Hope she is doing well Steve

I know Cindie personally and can confirm she is no longer breeding.

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/pets/german-shepherd-arnie-found-dead-inside-stolen-hilux-in-brisbane/news-story/4c3148ce5bd6932db64c2285d444ee76

That’s really interesting. It’s great to hear of people using them effectively.

1080 is horrible. So are livestock deaths from dog attacks. I’d love to think that guardian dogs could prevent the suffering but I’ve yet to be convinced that it is a widely applicable solution. It would be interesting to know whether or not the farmers in your region have opted against guardian dogs for well-considered reasons.

My sister had 2 of them for years on her sheep (for wool) and goat (for meat export) farm in NSW. You would rarely see them up near the house unless the flock had come up that close. There was a fenced yard off the house yard where the vehicles and hay was stored. There was also a chicken run off the back of the big storage shed. They got a Maremma for there. Certainly not as big a roam space as the livestock and he interacted with a lot more humans, but there were no issues. He just hung out with his chickens. But they didn't just buy 'a dog' - they bought one specific for purpose from a skilled breeder.

I think with the right owner & very much the key right owner a breed can thrive not doing its job if many other avenues are fulfilled . On the flipside when we where on the Gundog club we got weekly emails from people looking for guidaince to rehome there working Cocker Spaniels as they where to active to live with, where going bonkers in an apartment life etc . People brought them because they had less coat so grooming would be easier Lack of common sense applies buying any dog & theres alot out there

Perhaps the worst thing that can happen to a breed is for it to appear in a movie, or an ad, or be owned by a celebrity, or should that be appear in a game in these times. I think that happened to Maremmas with the movie Oddball. I once found an Anatolian who was a few suburbs away from his home. A Turkish family owned him, perhaps when they were children some relatives had some Anatolians.