Bilbo Baggins

New candle lit. Hope all the furries are well. I also was thinking of it as the Waiting room of requirement.

Glad they have nearly all been found.

:D ;) That's what you get for not looking. :mad

I second, third and fourth that SparkyTansy. Very well and sensibly posted ladyrita. You sure are doing your homework and I hope you find a pup soon. :D ;)

I have been on the phone to Cavalblaze and she is a bit knackered from a disturbed night, but all good.

BBJ and I will be tourists only, entries returned.

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Got the milk from my fav Deli on the way to work so dropping off yummy croissants, ham cheese and jam. Enjoy everyone while waiting for news. Keep fighting Jed.

Thanks very much Boronia. Looks yummy

How sad for both. RIP Troy. Join all your fellow protectors.

Well done SparkyTansy.

Bug if someone starts a thread in breeders they can reply. But they cannot post in a thread started by someone else.

Any handling is better than none. I raise my pups in the lounge room so they hear the telly and kitchen noises. The more they are exposed to the better their adjustment.

Christina I suggest you do what you feel is okay.

Well 8 pups of 300 grams is 2.4 plus placentas and fluid and extra fat for feeding I would say pretty on track.

Good morning all. I hope everyone, especially Jed had a comfortable night. The sun is shining here today (at least at the moment ) Oh, great fresh coffee Pretty please could morph some of those into Hot Chocolate. :eek: I can not tolerate coffee makes bit love the smell of the fresh roasted beans beans. Just leaving some hedgehog and Lemon Slice for morning tea.

I suggest you read this from the Chinaroad site "DEVELOPING HIGH ACHIEVERS" Originally published as "Early Neurological Stimulation" by Dr. Carmen Battaglia Google Early Neurological Stimulation I can not get the link to work.

Like everyone else I think the mum knows there is something wrong with the pup. I handle the pups frequently to weigh and jsut touch. mum never gets upset.

Well done.

What sort of dogs do you have??Jacqui Weekes has some new product Isle Of Dogs. Contact her trought Pet network advet banner above or Group 1 she has cavs.

Thanks for the update Toohey. ;)

I think so.

Well said Alison. I was going to comment before but Troy might have banned me forever. :) ;) I like Bulla and it is improving all the time. I really enjoyed being able to watch the group runoffs yesterday. Apparently the the way the BI went is very common overseas.

ladyrita you have definitely done the right thing by stepping away. It is against the DogsVic COE to sell a pup under 8 weeks. A pup is not necessarily fragile as such after vaccination. My vet recommends 7 days after vaccination before going to the new home. I would welcome all your questions, shows you have done some research.

Exactly Papers are better in the hand than chasing a breeder who's phone is disconnected I agree and from his papers we can see who his parents are and that they have been hip scored etc, if you are not given those papers you have no proof of who the parents are etc. Personally i would not leave with the puppy if I didnt have the papers. A GOOD breeder will have already given you a pedigree in lieu of the outstanding registration papers with a promise to forward the papers when they arrived from the controlling body. In addition, you would have had copies of parents hip scores and health testing ALREADY in a folder or booklet and THESE would have been given to a purchaser at the time the puppy left home. For example. My litter of 9 Staffordshire Bull Terrier puppies started leaving home at the age of 10 weeks. Their registration papers were not back from the Tas Canine Association BUT they left home with a 50 page folder full of dietary information, a TEN generation pedigree, photocopies of their parents health tests, their microchipping paperwork and assorted other information. Their papers were forwarded as soon as they arrived back. Does that make me a bad breeder? Or somebody who is deliberately withholding papers or do I hang onto the puppies until 13/14/15 weeks of age and THEN let them go to their new homes with their pedigree papers which are apparently THE most important thing about the puppy? I think not. Because if I hang onto my puppies for that long, the next thing you'll read is the new owner coming onto DOL (or similar forums) with behavioural problems because their puppy is no longer a malleable baby and they are having trouble trying to settle it into its new home. Damned if you do or damned if you don't. How long does it take for the papers to come back???. My puppy was registered on the 31st of March with Dogsvic and the papers were back by the 14th of April when collecting the puppy. That's 14 days on the outside, but you can't get it done in 10 weeks I chose NOT to get it done in 10 weeks. I register everything except what I keep for myself on Limited Registration. They are my puppies and I choose what I keep first. I am in no particular hurry to get it done and as I have already said, ANKC rules say that it can be done up to 18 months of age. Either a puppy purchaser trusts me, or they go somewhere else. Simple as that. Editing to add: And once again, as I have said from a previous thread. If you insist upon just selecting bits and pieces from people's responses, then please do them the courtesy of doing so in context rather than just selecting ONE sentence that appeals to you and ignoring the relevant information from around it. You are being deliberately obtuse and it is very little wonder that your responses receive very little respect from other posters. Argumentative for the sake of being argumentative. Many have already explained that they do not register til the pups are of an age to make a final decision on what they are keeping. So, I'm not the only one that whenever I see a post by BB, I roll my eyes?? .... and I don't mean you Bilbo Baggins ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) Thanks Dyz.