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Yes dogs are ment to eat the bone as well as the meat off it. You can get them from pet produce stores (ones that don't sell puppies and kittens). I can't recall exaclty but a bit less then $2 a tail.

I haven't fed them for a while as I will only buy them when they are in bits, probably the length of of my hand. As a whole roo bone would be much to big a meal for a pug. I did attempt to hacksaw my way through a full length one once but it took forever and the hacksaw and also me was covering in fat and meat afterwards. Mine will eat the whole thing, which is what the need to do for a ratio balance of bone to meat. They don't swallow the bone whole they chew off bits of it.

Nope. My pugs get through roo tail bones just fine.

Not sure what you can do about the behaviour other then ignore it and tell him off when he starts acting silly. You could also try filling him up on vegtables as they are low in calories.

I if she is getting the chicken necks/ wings then I probably would be using some other sort of meat other then chicken ie beef, kanagroo, lamb in the patties for variety and not to much of it.

Jesus poor Brodie poor you. Did you report the attack? Did the dog that attacked Brodie offer to pay vet fees? I am not an expert but I would say that the best thing to do is get her back socalising as soon as possible. And it seems you have already done that. I think that people who do not socalise their dogs that have been attacked, soon after the incidence has occured, end up with the dogs that are scared of everything for the rest of their lives. People who have had their dogs attacked have every right to feel scared shitless that their dog is going to be attacked again if they take it back out socalizing but dogs can sense how and owner feels and begin they can develop anxiety from sensing the owners anxiety. So when you do go out socalising, as hard as it may be, try not to act any differently then you did before their attack happend.

Yes yes if you correct them and they respond to your correction always praise. Go from a deep angry voice for the correction to a high happy one for the praise.

I doubt anyone would think that you are a crazy woman who goes around belting your dogs. Did you actually catch her in the act of ripping up things? If so then firm yelling at her, maybe even spraying with a water bottle, and putting her outside is a good idea. I alot of the time will lift a pug, that is doing something wrong, up by the scruff of the neck and put it outside or remove it from the situation. Doesn't hurt the pug as they are little enough to do this. Not sure how big your girl is o don't know if you could do this. If you don't catch a dog in the act of doing something then yelling at them and putting them outside really isn't going to work as they don't know what they are being told off for. Although I do feel like if a dog has done something and you have discovered it later they do know they have been naughty. I think the trick is to prevent her doing it. Is the baby gate you have just a normal height? I know that you can get ones that are double the normal height. Maybe try the crate thing.

This is the diet I raised two foster pug puppies on from the age of 7 weeks to 5 months. Their new owner continues to feed the same. -------------------------------------- PUPPY BARF DIET INFO • Currently being feed approximately 10% of their body weight divided up into 3 meals a day. As they get older this should be cut back with them getting fed 2% to 3% of their body weight in either two or one meal a day when they are adults. If you see that they are getting to fat then cut the percentage back. Meat and bones should make up approx 80% of the diet 20% veggies, yoghurt etc. • Breakfast & Dinner consist of Puppy mince (minced chicken carcasses), Barf veggie slops & full fat yoghurt. I will prepare a bowl of it in the morning mixing together the mince, veggie slops and yoghurt. Once or twice a week I have been adding sardines to their food & once a week offal. You could add other things like kangaroo & beef from time to time but it is important that the bone to meat ratio remains ok. Lunch consists of a small meaty bone, usually a lambs bone due to them being soft enough to eat both the meat and the bone fully. • Lennard’s sells the Puppy mince/ chicken mince which they have been fed on. It is made up of minced chicken carcasses. If you have to source the mince from somewhere else make sure it contains meat as well as the minced bones. It is important that dogs when dogs are fed meat that they also have the right ratio of bone with it to balance out nutritional needs. If dogs are fed meat without bones then serious health problems can occur. • Please supervise bone time just in case they choke. --------------------------------- BARF SLOPS INGREDIENTS & METHOD Things I always include: - container of alfala spouts - bunch of spinach (roots cut off) - 1 to 2 green capsicums (stalk cut off & seeds out) - 1 to 2 red caspsicums (stalk cut off & seeds removed) - bag of carrots - bunch of celary - 4 zuccinis - 3 to 4 oranges (peeled) - 1 pumpkin (seeds removed) - 2 to 4 apples (pips taken out) - 2 to 4 bannanas (peeled) - 8 to 10 eggs (whole including shell) - flaxseed oil (approx 250mL) - kelp (approx 100g) What else you can put in: - bunch of silverbeet - turnip - squash - sweet potato - 2 to 4 pears - half to 1 pinapple - brussel sprouts - brocoli - cauliflower - bag of beans - Apple Cider Vinegar - Vitamin C Chop up then process up in blender/food processor so that things turn to slops. Put each blender batch into a big bucket. Usually leave the eggs & flaxseed oil for things that don't blend very well like the pumpkin and carrots. Ingredients should fill up a bucket. Mix bucket with big ladel till all mixed through then put into take away containers & freeze untill needed.

Cut them into smaller pieces so that she can still chew on them but if she swallows without chewing she wont choke on them. If you want to feed a BARF diet and want to make it yourself please please please do some reading on what to feed and how to feed. You can make alot of mistakes by just chucking your dog a bit of meat and a few veggies. Search on this forum, google, read books.

The patties need bone it it. You will notice in the brand name BARF patties that they have bone it it. Again I say TO FEED MEAT WITHOUT BONE CAN CAUSE LOTS OF HEALTH PROBLEMS. Use the chicken carcuss mince (puppy mince/dog mince), which has bone in it. Also ditch the quick porridge oats or cooked rice/pasta as dogs do not need this, it's not natural for them to eat, and grains cause alot of skin problems in dogs. Alot of the time people change to a BARF diet to get away from grains and to fix their dogs skin problems. The veggies should consist of alot of green leafy ones.

So glad that Brodie doesn't have something wrong with his actual heart. It's still a worry but it seems fixable. I am very very suprised and almost thinking that the vet that gave Brodie his first two injections whilst he was with the breeder is incompetent not to have found his racing heart. The first things vets do is listen to a dogs heart when you take them in for a consult. I would be telling the breeder to get another vet. But just maybe the breeders vet did find the racing heart and did inform the breeder of this and they are lying to you. Hopefully this isn't the case.

You're in a funny mood today Poodlefan I think your new positive outlook for posts on DOL is doing you good.

Are you just feeding mince? Please please please don't as meat (phosphorus) without bones (calcium) can cause horrible damage to a growing puppy. If you can't get the BARF patties get some minced up chicken carcusses (some times called puppy mince or pet mince but make sure it is both bones and meat) from your local chicken shop or butcher and feed this instead of plain minced meat. What else are you feeding? If you plan to feed a BARF diet then you should also add some food processed vegtables, fruit, eggs including shells and even yoghurt to the chicken carcus mince. A growing puppy should be fed 10% of it's body weight split up into either two or three meals a day. The pug pups I just raised from 7 weeks to 5 months were getting two meals a day of the chicken carcuss mince mixed with my BARF veggie/fruit slops and yoghurt and their other meal consisted of a raw meaty bone. (I used lamb bones as they are soft enough for the pups to be able to eat the meat and the bone which is important)

Could well be the goose honking then and not part of the KC if she doesn't seem to have a head full of snot. Does she do it when she gets over excited or after having a drink?

It was Loraine, not me but I can do a good impression elongated soft palate sounds. I found opening the mouth or stroking the throat tends to ease it. I always try to describe the sound the best I can to people that have adopted the pugs I have fostered or to new puggy owners I run into because if you haven't heard it before it can be a shock. And usually they still get freaked out when the first hear it. Maybe I should enlist your help with an impression. ie phone this lady and she will do an impression of the goose honking so that you can know what it sounds like.

Is it for yourself or a dog? I tried it with a Chi X that I was fostering with no luck. She was extremly stressed out and would bark and cry from about 5.30am every morning till she wore herself out. Holding & cuddling her didn't help and Rescue Remedy in my opinion did nothing at all for her. Personally think that Rescue Remedy is to much general mixture of the bach flowers. I think that if you were to get a personalised mixture made it probably would have a better effect.

Does sound like it would be part of the KC virus. Does it sound like she is full of snot/ mucus? Sort of like she has a headcold. Dogs can have different parts of KC without having the actual cough. It is a group of a few virus's that together form to make up what is called Kennel Cough. A dog might only catch one of those virus's or all of them so their symptoms and how sick they get vary. Had a rescue from the pound here for a few hours that had no signs of KC but then came down with it at his foster carers. My girl puggy ended up obviously catching part of the virus from him in the time she was exposed. And displayed the signs of what was like a massive head cold approx a week later after her exposure to him. Think I only heard her cough once or twice. Keep an eye on here and if she is still happy then the virus should pass in time. If she is not happy take her to the vets. The sound that Poodle fan is talking about with the trachea collapsing can be described as a goose honking sound. Short nose breeds are more prone to it. My pugs will do it every now and again and I shove my finger in their mouths to make them breath through them, rather then their noses, which usually stops them honking.

You will know when the time is right and she will as well. Don't hang on to long just for the sake of having her physically there with you. I recently had to put to sleep a puggy boy that was holidaying with me. He had stomach cancer and his owners knew that he was living on borrowed time. Although he was very skinny and didn't like eating he was happy for the three weeks that he was with me. He would trot around the garden, boss his sister about, run upstairs to hop on my bed, come and cuddle and wag his tail when you told him he was a beautiful boy. I put him to sleep on a Saturday and it was only the Friday that he was no longer happy and really only either lay on my bed or on his own bed and threw up the food I was syringe feeding him. I took him to the vets on the Friday, because of an eye ulcer, and they gave him a shot of steroids which they said may perk him up. When I got home with him I decided that I would no longer syringe feed him and would send him to heaven the next day. I was able to hold him in my arms as he went to sleep forever and it was actually a really lovely experience because he knew his time had come and I was so honoured to be able to help him in that little way. So yes you will know and whilst you will be devistated you should feel honoured that you gave your girl a wonderful life and that you were able to help her again for the last time. As for your other dog. It will grieve like you will. Be there for it like it will be there for you. And sooner rather then later think about adopting a new friend for it.

How old is she? Have you tried things like sardines, chicken breast, yoghurt, minced chicken carcusses?

When I was feeding dry food my boy pug had terrible skin and a short dry coarse hair, my pug girl however was fine. I changed to BARF feeding and my boys horrible yeasty itchie skin is nearly completely back to normal and his hair has changed to be much softer and longer. Maybe you should try cutting all grains out of his food and see if this makes a difference. I also use the EPO shampoo as listed above.

I use Cannex because they usually come as a free bonus with the Revolution I buy.

Are you quite sure that she doesn't have something wrong with her that is making her not want to eat. Loose tooth, teething, stick in gum, tonsil inflamed? I can recall that abother DOLer, who is a breeder, stated that it is nearly always tonsils that are infected/inflamed that is the cause of a odg not eating. This is unless they have a serious illness like cancer etc. Nutrigel is supposed to work. Get this from your vet or a pet produce store. or Pentavite which is used for babies when they wont eat. Get this from your chemist.

Like morgan said KC can be transmitted before there are any symptoms, whilst their are symptoms and after the symptoms have cleared up. How irresponsible of people to take their dogs out whilst they have a cough.

He is probably losing alot of hair because he has had a bad diet and has been stressed if he is a rescue. As well as him losing his winter coat. Do you have a shedding blade? Looks sort of like a hacksaw blade that is twisted around in an oval with a handle on it. What do you feed? I myself have changed the consistencey of my pugs hair from short and coarse to long and soft by stopping feeding dry food and getting him onto a BARF diet. Omega 3 and Evening Primrose Oil are supposed to make hair shiney. You can feed sardines or other fish for the Omega 3.