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doesn't everyone :laugh:

I am not the OP though I would find having opinions am not comfortable with forced down my throat very difficult. Obviouisly you have culled litters and late aborted and you are familiar with it. The OP has not! Nope never aborted a litter at any stage or culled.

Nic.B you have whelped more litters then me! But yes I see your point about the two dogs got together when they shouldn't have. Whatever makes it easiest for everyone which includes the young bitch.

One person suggested culling and another, me, agreed with it. How is that browbeating and hammering? I agree to not abort/desex the bitch now as it is too risky to the bitch but yes I would cull (browbeating and hammering cause I said it again) Why are some so quick to say move the male dog off the premises? I, and others, don't get rid of all other dogs when a bitch whelp's and mine whelps in the loungeroom

excuse me! Errr what? I've been around this forum for awhile now, these types of calls for help always go the same ol' way. The OP is constantly made out to be some crazy dog monster. Sure, some are mad but I'd say 99% are genuine people who aren't in the know-it-all dog scene. and where was the OP made out to be some kind of crazy dog monster? Where was the bullying? Did you report it? Yeah right of course not cause there is nothing to report

excuse me!

You really should get this bitch an xray so you know what you are dealing with. And yes I support culling as well.

clear by parentage?

if you ever breed then you would understand

Very helpful :laugh: Read the desex thing wrong of course. I was thinking why does she need to desex the dog that soon. well the OP asked for the good, the bad, the ugly. This is how I would react so was warning her. Other breeders will react the same way, others again will react differently. Mainly I would be kicking myself for not keeping in better contact with the owner cause surely if the owner and breeder were in reasonable contact then the subject of the dog being pregnant would have already come up. People are saying, rightly, contact the bitches breeder, OP needs to be aware the breeder might not be very happy with them! Doesn't mean they won't help.

As a breeder I would be livid this was allowed to happen. Why did you not contact them as soon as the mating occurred? For the dog I bred sake's I would do everything to help you out but be prepared to cop some wrath first up. I would also be angry with myself for trusting you to not allow this to happen and be wondering where I went wrong.

My dogs wouldn't climb it but it would depend on the breed and how long the dog is in there for. Otherwise it looks great!

Get another trainer. Your pup doesn't need exercising and you can socialize in other ways. Why would anyone suggest doubling up on vaccine's, ridiculous.

That's the one I posted above is it good pirate? Greyhound people I know have raved about it.

Showing is about a lot more than structure though. Why else do people put glitter etc on their dogs for shows ? Dogs can have excellent structure and not be show winners. There ae a number of breeds (mals, bc's, Aussies etc) that have split working and show lines. I didn't actually mention showing at all so why quote me and bring it up?

Good conformation is what makes a good athlete who will stay the distance. And no you should not breed a limited registered dog.

Happy Birthday Tempeh :birthday:

just keep hammering away at them

I use this one. I have two different grades of paper, one finer then the other and I don't have an extension.

the people might be ok but some of the dogs? One day he will come upon the wrong dog, one snap can cause a big problem.

sorry you had this happen but it happens a lot, no matter how the pups are conceived.

The saucepan lid is a terrible idea to inflict on other peoples dogs. I would still have your guts for garters if I caught you doing something so cruel to my dogs and I have lived next to an old guy who if my dogs barked once a day would react like they never stopped. Even he was never so cruel.

you would have to ask the breeders how much extra they charge and also what guarantees they offer cause they are really only selling show potential. Pet or show, they all cost the same to raise. Really so called pet quality pups shouldn't be much different to the show potential ones, it is very often only minor things that rule a dog out of the show ring. Possible reasons for being "only" pet quality are mismarks - colour in the wrong spot, incorrect bite, over or under height, slightly turned out foot, too gay a tail etc

But it's on sale!