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  1. @WanaHavanese - I think you have summed it up perfectly - sometimes a purebred is difficult, and in a world that is difficult on many levels, sometimes it is 'a bridge too far'. Don't get me wrong - I applaud breeders have their dogs best interest at heart, but sometimes that comes at a cost. A balance is what is needed. You were darn lucky that your girl is perfect for you. Cross breds (oodles or whatever) are a bit of a lottery for health and temperament. I have seen both the wonderful and the heartbreaking. Congrats to you and your girl - sounds like she is in the perfect home and you have the perfect dog
  2. I don't have any advice specific to your situation - but I am wondering if you have taken your older girl to the vet and if so, what the outcome was. I am thinking that ... (a) diminished senses (sight, hearing smell) can cause a loss of confidence and an increased startle response (it may be all the time, or only in some situations - eg: when you were taking her out to the toilet and the youngster barked, perhaps her hearing is dropping and her sight is worse in low light - so she didn't see/hear the pup when it was asleep (she probably could have done both when she was younger), was a bit worried anyway, and then suddenly heard a dog bark and couldn't work out who it was - so became scared. (b) arthritis/bad teeth/whatever can mean she is sore (either all over or somewhere specific [sore teeth = don't want pup near face as when it came up before it banged her mouth and hurt her]. Think about when you have had a sore neck (or whatever) - the last thing you wanted was someone coming near you. In fact, how often are people in a foul mood 'because they have a headache' etc Animals are very adept at hiding symptoms and compensating. Your old lady may seem fine and happy etc, while at the same time be either in pain, or have very limited sight etc.
  3. I can't help re the amount to use (I used it so long ago on dogs I can't really remember - I *think* it was about a couple of teaspoons for a 30(ish)kg dog - but that is really a tiny voice quietly saying 'maybe' in the back of my brain ) But I can confirm that the result is to darken and 'strengthen/deepen' the colour of coats. I have used it on both dogs and horses. Not much change to coat colour for the dogs (but they were dark/solid colours anyway - I used it for pigmentation on eye lids etc). It certainly made the horses coat darker/more depth/more vibrant - they were chestnuts and buckskins. Could not use it on palominos as it made them smutty. No idea what it would do on the coat color of a creme whippet (it does reverse if you stop using it, but not quickly)
  4. A friend of mine had been 'sort of thinking' about a dog for a while, and then saw a young dog that they absolutely fell in love with and had a good chat with the owners. Responsible people so did all the homework and talked it through - and decided yes, it was time and that is what they wanted. It was a purebred and they rang a couple of breeders and ended up speaking to the breeder of the dog they fell in love with. Timing was perfect and the breeder had another litter due in a few months and they they now have a perfect pet. Change it to 'fell in love with oodle/crossbred' and don't know what the outcome would have been. So yes - word of mouth and good quality product are the two golden rules of marketing. Availability V exclusivity is always interesting. Exclusivity is only a positive if the advertising and 'desire' is done right, just having no product does not equate to exclusivity. If the 'competition' (aka oodles, crossbreds etc) is doing the advertising, has availability and meets the 'cute' requirement, baffles with bullshit (hybrid vigour etc), then is it any surprise that their popularity continues to arise. (I have deliberately stayed away from the health and general WTF are some breeds being turned in to when looking at some show stock. Bad breeding occurs across the board (pure and cross) - but it certainly doesn't help that some breeds are riddled with health issues [gives the oodle/crossbred advocates free goals]) Disclaimer - I don't consider a dog the same as a car/fridge/whatever - the reference to 'product' relates to human nature
  5. Agree - Joe Public often doesn't worry or care about specific breeds. Some do, but others don't. And to a degree I understand that. I have only had one crossbred in my life, and he was pretty much a perfect dog. BUT, I know I was bloody luck in the nature side of things, and had the experience to make the nurture side of it work. For a lot of people, (a) waiting 12 months for a dog (b) developing a relationship with a breeder and (c) navigating the questions/unanswered questions/showiness (with its real or perceived 'elitism') is not what they want. They have lost their dog, or decided that now is the time to get a dog - and that is what they want. I know that my next dog will be a sheltie. Decision made re breed and gender (female - I just prefer them) and I have no preference re colour or puppy/adult. The decision will come down to temperament and availability. I am firm with what I want, but completely understand others who are not set on a breed will look at a crossbred as much as purebred - often the criteria comes down to maintenance, family friendliness, looks and availability. I honestly don't understand why the purebred world have moved to a thought process of 'should only breed when they want a pup'. In my opinion, responsibly bred, well raised pups who are representative of the breed (type, temperament etc) - who are bred for the 'pet market' are a credit to their breed and the breeder. They should be accepted not chastised. Disclaimer - at this point I am talking about pet/family friendly breeds and lines. Additional disclaimer - I am not endorsing unethical breeding practices.
  6. not sure what 'sound' you are looking for, but a couple of words in Hungarian Huseges (means 'faithful' or 'loyal') Mutato (means 'pointer') Piros (means 'red') Jokepu (means 'handsome')
  7. ** I just read this on FB - it said 'copied from an unknown source' so I can't quote the author unfortunately ** "COPIED from an unknown source." The other day I was at the local public park (not a dog park, but dogs are allowed there). We were walking along in a high movement area so I had my dog a leash. Another dog, off leash, sees us and starts approaching. My dog needs her space so we start moving away, but the dog got to us before we could leave. My dog was stressing a little so I politely said to the woman, sorry my dog doesn't want to play and ushered her dog away. Her dog gets the message and moves on. Quite good, right? Here comes the juicy part: As I'm leaving the owner comes to me with a speech more or less like this: Hey, if your dog is nervous and doesn't even want to play with other dogs, go somewhere else! Don't come to the park and ruin other dogs fun. I heard this and a wave of fury started taking over, but suddenly I think I had a lightbulb moment and switched gears completely. With the biggest, friendliest smile, I opened my arms as wide as I could and said Ohhhhh! Come here... I want to give you a BIG hug! With panic in her eyes she backs up, speechless and quickly starts walking away. I said "Hey, don't run, I'm so friendly, come on, I only want to give you a hug! I'm friendly I promise... I just want to Hug You!" Still speechless and backing away with terror now, I said "Wait, You don't want my friendly hug?" She yelled No! I said "Well neither does my dog! Have a nice day.!!!" As I walked away, I saw her just standing there, speechless and she was leashing her dog! I think I'll try this approach more often
  8. Thought I would give an update on my boy (mainly because I hate following a thread and wondering how the pooch is later) I took him back to the vet for his check up last night, and she was very happy with how the eye is healing. He is quite perky in himself as well (thank goodness), so just a case of keeping up the ointment and anti-inflams/ABs for another few days, then fingers crossed it will be another drama he has gotten over.
  9. thanks - yep, was definitely straight to vet She did an eye stain and it showed an ulcer. So eye ointment and anti inflams/painkillers for now. Check up next week to monitor (it should be starting to heal by then). If it looks worse in the interim it will be straight to the eye specialist to check eye pressure etc. (Dr Google sucks - spent time last night reading about glaucoma - why do the horror stories always appear first )
  10. Hi all. My older (15yo) dog has a cloudy/inflamed/weepy eye, and I would appreciate some information from those with senior dogs. He has always had the 'little dog' moist eyes, but it has really blown up in the last 48 hours Some extra info: - he can't have an anaesthetic (he had a bad reaction to the premed last year when he was going to have his teeth cleaned - and vets recommendation at the time was no more anaesthetics for him as he would not make it) - he is on heart medication twice daily - his hearing and eye sight have deteriorated over the last couple of years. He still has some of both, but certainly less than when he was a young dog - over the past 12-18 months he has started having seizures. Totally random (can be twice in a week, then nothing for a month or so) - no triggers identified. Vet advice is not enough for medication - full blood tests done 3 months ago with no major call outs - overall he is healthy (even though it doesn't sound like it) - he is definitely slower and an elderly man who sleeps a lot more etc etc - but given everything he is 'well' (hope that makes sense) I am taking him to the vet tonight, but would love peoples thoughts as I have never had an animal with cataracts etc and would peoples opinions on whether he may be in pain/discomfort etc. He is a tough little bugger (the type who will scream the place down if I pick up nail clippers, but would get absolutely smashed in a dog game of chasey and not acknowledge it) - so if he is in pain he wouldn't tell me :-( thanks all
  11. I am certainly no super slueth, so highly recommend ringing the NSW governing body, but I did find this information which backs up that the information is correct (but not that the advert is legitimate. Not saying it isn't - but I have seen some incredibly sophisticated scams, so I independently check information as a rule) https://www.myras.com.au/res/Results/ResultsSearch2.aspx?SY=2021&SN=35&EN=All Exhibitors&TN=All Towns&BR=KARELIAN BEAR DOG&PC1=&PC2=&CL1=&CL2=&EI=1&OR=1&CT=ALL&Type=9 (the website linked to the advert included that they won BOB at Sydney Royal
  12. Agree with what Selkie has said above - unfortunately the question you are asking is not answerable as too broad. A bit like saying 'what is a fair price for a car' or 'what is a fair price for a house'? Without knowing the answer to all the clarifying questions it is not possible to give an answer. For a car - which make, which model, new or used, etc. For a house - where, how big, what condition etc. For a dog - what breed, where from, what health/temperament etc. There are as many variables for all of them. I would start by (a) doing health homework Finding out what health issues the breed is susceptible to Find out the impacts and prevalence of those health issues Find out what can be tested for, how accurate the testing is, when it should be done (aka age), should it be done generationally (or just on the individual) (b) asking several breeders of the breed (or breeds) you are interested in what is the cost of their pups what health checks do they do, and what are the results how do they raise their pups performance/temperament etc relevant to what you want to do what support do they provide (you may or may not want/need it - but it is a consideration both of price, and sometimes of quality) Then - weight that all up and work out what your not negotiables are, and what is the 'norm' for a pup that fits that criteria Some people charge way over the odds, but sometimes top $$ is understandable and definitely the way to go. Without knowing all of the above, then I cant think of a way to answer that.
  13. That photo of the man with the gun, the cat and the fish is the most poignant photo I have seen - heartbreaking and uplifting at the same time. I saw a quote yesterday - 'war is worse than hell. Only bad people go to hell, but war kills and hurts the innocent' (both human and animal)
  14. I have never understood being abusive to a vet. The most I have ever done was become 'firm' when my female cats desexing incision opened up the day after the surgery. When I took her back they started with the 'you must not have kept her cone on and she has licked/chewed it' - nope, didn't happen and I have seen enough wounds to know that was not the reason. After they realised that I would not accept that explanation, they started saying 'don't worry, once her hair grows back you won't notice it'. I wasn't worried about that, I wanted to know what happened. Eventually they admitted they left one of their trainie vet nurses to close and she didn't do it correctly But I was not rude, just persistent. (and yes - I found another wonderful place). I was seriously peeved that (a) they didn't supervise/check the work of a trainie and then (b) went straight in to excuse mode I didn't realise how unrealistic/unacceptable people were until last year when I took my other cat in for a dental. Post op issue where infection got in to the eye - no ones fault, one of those extremely rare risks - but it did result in me now having a one eyed cat (he is fine in every way). The vet was fantastic - zero complaints from me. What surprised me was the way that everyone in the practice thanked me for being understanding. Apparently when things go wrong most people crack it. Seriously, stuff happens - as long as people aren't negligent, have the best interests of my pet at heart and are caring and skilled - what reasonable person would lose it ???????
  15. so sorry that you all did not have more time together. What an amazing number of gifts you have given her in the last few weeks - love, safety, care, tenderness, fun and happiness - and now you are giving her a final gift of her wings when they are needed. And she reciprocated with love
  16. no helpful info for the OP, but Rebanne, that artist is amazing
  17. We went to the beach yesterday - and it was a wonderful way to spend an hour or so. The little one is an absolute trooper - 14 years old, and nearly lost him a couple of months ago when he had an adverse reaction to the premed when he was to have a dental. Yet, he still goes anywhere (albeit a bit slower, the journeys are shorter and he needs a 'carry' every now and again - hang on, starting to sound like me )
  18. I have a dog who thinks my floors are lava - watching a rough coat collie walk backwards navigating corners, chairs, tables and everything else is somewhere between hilarious and 'seriously - what the hell are you doing?'. If she is within a few feet of a rug/mat she will go backwards. Otherwise she is 'stuck'. She will only go forward on the floor if the doorbell rings (then she runs barking without any issues until she remembers where she is in which case she is 'stuck'.) And by stuck, I mean she will just stand totally stationary just moving her eyes - I left her there one day to see if she would work it out for herself (either backwards or forwards) - nope 30 mins later I gave her a carpet tile path (and now have one to the front door ) My solution is to have a couple of large rugs in the family room so she can lie down/play etc , and then use a series of carpet tiles to create 'pathways' throughout the house. The cheapest V nicest option I found was at Bunnings. They have squares and rectangles (both work, but I tend to use the rectangles). They are 1m x 25cm and have enough weight and a solid backing (thick rubber) that they don't move, but can easily be picked up and moved for floor washing and vacuuming. I have paths throughout the kitchen/dining/family room and up the 2 hallways. She is confident enough happily walks/trot around on them. Picture for example (please excuse grotty floor and the 'needs to be groomed' dog - we went to the beach this morning so didnt bother to do the floors until I bath one and brush the sand out of the other )
  19. My 2c is that a breeder should not be opposed to price being discussed in the first contact (call or email) - as above, it is no good having a budget of $X and finding out 6 conversations later that the price is double that. To be honest, if I asked (appropriately) about cost and the breeder got cranky, that would be enough for me to walk away as I consider that as either 'mind games' or they are more sensitive/clicky/something than I care to engage with. Having said that, 'appropriate' is the key. I don't think it is appropriate to start a conversation with 'hi, I am Fred and looking for a pup - how much is it'. I see nothing wrong with 'hi, I am Fred, I am looking for a pup, this is me (where, why, what, who, history etc), I am hoping to do .........., ... ask questions you have about the pup and the breeder etc, and then say 'may I ask how much you are asking for him/her' ......'. Even if you have decided not to purchase, or they don't have anything suitable, it will give you an idea of the cost. That way you know if $X is realistic.
  20. As both an ex horse and dog 'shower', I though it might be helpful to give a comparison (I did led in breed shows with my horses (and they had a couple of registrations - eg: part bred Arab, ASSP, buckskin etc) ). I am comparing non specialty (ie: breed specific) shows - so an Ag. or all breeds show for horses and an all-breeds dog show. The three biggest differences are the number of class you are eligible for, show structure and what you have to do to get 'evidence of success' on the day Classes: With a horse, it was normal to do a couple of classes per registration (ie: their age/gender class PLUS best head and/or best trot and/or best colour and/or etc). So if your horse had a couple of registrations, you could easily do 6-10 initial classes in a day (more if you win and go back in). With a dog, you usually only have one class (eg: Havanese - Puppy Bitch). There may be a guineas etc you might be eligible for - but work on the one class only. Having said that, if they win (or come 2nd) in the class, you will continue to go against others until there is a 'final winner' (either in that category or overall). So you may go in the ring more often - but there is only one initial class you enter for Against different breeds: Horses generally compete against the breed only. Some shows have a 'ultra supreme' where all best of the breeds compete against each other, but not every show, and when I was involved it was not seen as the 'ultimate' and some people would not even stay for it when they were eligible. Dogs are entirely different. Each breed is part of a 'group' (eg: Havenese, Pekinese, Chis, and a couple of dozen other breeds are all in the 'Toy Group'. There is also a Hound group, a Terrier group etc (7 in total). At a dog show, the Havenese compete against each other as a breed, then the winners of all the Toy Group comes together to compete, and then all the winners of the various groups come together to compete to work out who is the best in the show (overall, and all the age groups etc). And the 'In Group' and 'In Show awards are highly coveted 'Evidence of Success' - I wasn't sure what the right word is, so I will try and explain. My first experience of in hand horse show was a co-worker. She would come in to work on the Monday with 2 huge tri-ribbons (and I mean huge - bigger than you would see for any BIS at a 3 day Championship dog show). I was amazed when I found out she had won the equivalent of best of breed. With a dog show, being the best male in your breed is a challenge, and if the best of your breed is just that - Best of Breed. If you are the best male of your breed in a horse show you are Champion, and if the best of your breed, you are Supreme Champion. Win a dog Best of Breed and you may get a handshake from the judge. Win a horse Supreme Champion and you get a huge ribbon. It was not unusual for me to come home from a horse show with a half dozen massive ribbons, when if I had the same success at a dog show, I may have come home with a couple of small (single) ribbons. I was never fussed about ribbons, so neither worried me - but for a 'show and tell' on a Monday, horse shows was much more impressive Having said that, a 'challenge' at a dog show gets you points to become an Australian Champion and above - and I personally found a 20 point challenge certificate very satisfying. No such thing with a horse. Both dogs and horses have point score options which is worked out on show results, but there are no 'challenge points' in a horse show I am not saying either is better or worse (and that whatever level of success you have - it should be fun) - just that having done both, these are the three things which stood out for me.
  21. Without more information, there is no way to know all the details. It would be nice for the original poster to let us know how the pup is - but given the turn this thread has taken I am not sure they will. Talk about assumptions and pedanticness with time frames - struth. 'had him for a week' could mean 6 days or 10 days. I did something a week ago but it was on the Wednesday, it is now Saturday '8 weeks old' does not mean 56 days - it could mean he is not yet 9 weeks old. A friend of mine has a 3 week old (human) baby. He refers to him as '3 weeks old' for 7 days, then he will be '4 weeks old'. I read the thread as a person asking genuine 'newbee' questions about the one of the weird and wonderful things babies do so they can learn what is normal and what is an indicator of concern - not requesting an debate with more concern about blame and timelines from people who don't know because they don't know the facts Mutter over
  22. Sandgrubber - I wasn't saying that the ring is the perfect solution. What has been done to several breeds is 'criminal' and bloody disgusting. I remember the German Shepherds of the 70's - proud, sound (mind and body) beautiful animals. Not the roach backed/down on hocks, screaming/mentally fragile beings of a few decades later. And that is only one of dozens of breeds that have been stuffed up physically and mentally (before anyone loses it - yes there are exceptions in individuals and breeders - I am referencing in general). The point I was attempting to make is that there are pups that simply aren't up to breed standard (pls note, I said the standard, not 'winning in the ring). The conversation seemed to be focused on 2 points. (A) If I pay $X,000 I should have the right to do whatever I want, and (B) if I pay $X,000 it should be good enough to show and breed from. The point I was attempting to make is that not all dogs are worthy of being shown or bred from (regardless of which registration) and that there are valid reasons for limited registrations - and that I agree it is overused (note the 2nd last line in my original comment).
  23. Personally I think limited register should not be used as the 'default', but it sure does have a place. The part of this discussion which I haven't read (apologies if I have missed it) - is that not all pups will be worthy of full registration. There are many pups which genuinely should be on limited register. The differences between registrations is (a) should not be breed from and (b) not suitable for showing. Regardless of the registration, they can still compete in 'sports' (obedience, agility etc), is a representative of the breed and the breeder (has pedigree papers and the prefix of the breeder) etc. Bottom line - some dogs are simply not suitable for the show ring, nor are suitable breeding stock. That is not (necessarily) a reflection on the breeder, their skill, commitment or the manner they care for their dogs - it is simply that some are not 'good enough'. At its core - a dog show is a beauty contest. Correctness to standard, form, confirmation, temperament etc is measured - but to be successful it is a measure against 'perfection' (whatever that means per breed) and some dogs simply don't measure up. Same goes for an animal being considered a good enough representation of he breed to be considered for breeding. Some dog/bitch combinations simply don't work, and even when they do - not all pups are created equal. It doesn't matter if the parents are dogs, cats, horses, budgies or people. I have yet to see the perfect formula where any male A is mixed with female B and the result is ALWAYS 100% uniform and exceptional. That is where limited registration has its place. Pup 'fluffy' is amazing - representative of his breed in type and temperament, an amazing animal that is breeder is proud to register as PREFIX Fluffy, and his owner is delighted with. But unfortunately, regardless of how much his owner wants it, Fluffy just does not cut it for the show ring or the breeding barn (horse reference). But it costs just as much to get PREFIX Fluffy (limited registration) to the point of sale as it does to get his littermate PREFIX Perfect (main registration) to the same point. The part that does peeve me is the 'limited registration for everything'. That is what is contributing to dwindling numbers (but that, together with 'only breed when you need something yourself' culture is a mumble for another day )
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