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Lovely dog! How tall is he? Hi Shortstep. Thank you. I adore this boy of mine. He is just over 20 inches.

wow, he does have long legs & a shortish coat. Did you breed him? Are the others from his litter similar in appearance? I have seen a few young dogs around agility lately with similar appearance, maybe they are related. Will be interesting to see his progeny. Has he been bred yet? Hi Vickie how have you been? I did breed him. He is a grandson of our lovely Shiva. There are two sisters of his that I see either photos of or in person regularly and they are quite leggy too. I can't wait to see how they grow on. One of the girls is in SA and will do Agility. He's quite young still so I won't use him at stud for a little while yet. I'm interested to see how he grows on too. I'm very taken with this young dog ;)

Which standard? The ISDS (UK) founding registry for the breed in 1906? Everything I see in this standard describs the working border collie in Australia perfectly. This standard would fit the working dogs in OZ and the UK, or anywhere else in the world. Or do you mean the first show dog standard written in Australia in the 1950's? Or do you mean the first show dog standard written in the country of origin the UK in the mid 1970"s? Have you read this show dog standard from the country of origin? Smooth coat are fine, ears pricked are good too, coats of any colour except mostly white are good. Not that a show standard could ever really discribe the border collie, there is nothing in this standard that the majority of working border collies in OZ would not fit. However, while it is clear the working border collies here in Australia or anywhere else in the world are not bred to look like a standard, it is hoped that the standard discribes what the dogs actually do look like that are being bred to do their job. As in, form follows function. To original poster, The pedigree of your dog has some of the very best working kennels in Australia today. Many are well known lines that can be traced all the way back to ISDS and the first dogs imported to Australia from the UK . Many of the lines are top 3 sheep trial lines, but you also have some lines that are very good cow dogs as well as station dogs for both cattle and sheep. It should be a fine dog, certainly purebred and the pedigree reflects that this pup has been bred to the standard of top quality world class working dogs that the border collie is. Well a standard is really just a guideline, and obviously, interpretations vary so yes, both show and working dogs could potentially fit the standard. Howver,obviously, i am not BC expert, but from an average persons point of view, the show-winning dogs today, do not look like working BCs in Australia that I see. In my opinion, there is LESS of a difference in the appearance of show winning dogs and working sheepdogs in the UK. Short or less coated BCs seem to be preferred for Australian conditions and i have never seen one of those in the ring, even though it is apparently permitted in the breed standard? MULTI Best In Show winning GR CH Benshiva Dot Com A very moderately coated Border Collie that did extremely well in the show ring until he retired 2 years ago. This is him in almost full coat.

My longgggg legged - short coated show border collie.

Purebred working BCs are still used as are working kelpies. There would be very very few ANKC BCs working on real properties. Ok last dumb question for the year, do working BC's look the same as ANKC BC's? Typically not. 'Working' borders tend to be 'leggier' and often won't have as much coat as their ANKC counterparts. Also working borders often don't have as uniform or 'classic' markings as ANKC borders because they are not selected for markings, they are selected for their working ability/temperament. Their head is also often 'finer'. Neither are "Show" Border Collies. Markings are the last thing you'd look at. Just thought I'd point that out

I tend to agree with this. I know people only have the OP's version of the situation (not that I'm suggesting it isn't the correct version) but doesn't he have ANY rights at all? I don't know and I feel bad for them both. A sad situation as someone is going to be heartbroken by the sounds of it

Me too. JUD was first on my google as well

The awesome Bearded Collie Gr Ch Llantree Newell Glenn (BJ to his friends) was BEST IN SHOW today!!!!!! Soooo so so so happy for my mate Penny :D

I think the puppy may have got a bite in on her hand if you watch her as the puppy goes away on its out and back. She grabs her hand and then wipes it. Poor little puppy. She should never be allowed to judge again. The hair in the puppy's face annoyed me too NO thats what JUDGES should do WIPE their hands after touching each dog! But most people in the dog world do not appear to mind this practice!!of touching all dogs and not disinfecting between YES I understand that JUDGES should WIPE their hands after judging each dog!!!! Not arguing with you there. Didn't say they shouldn't!!!!! However, to me it looks like the puppy may have bitten her. I hope it did

Pretty much the same here too. We scored eight from eight with the last litter and the bitch did all of the work. I checked them over for clefts and hare lips and gave her a hand to get them dry ( winter whelping, even with the lamps on I like to get them dry quickly ) She's worth her weight in gold. I've watched a bitch pick up and drop a pup that appeared stillborn, she got that one started on her own and it thrived. It was a bit roiugh to watch but she knew what she was doing. Yes I've had this happen as well. It scared the hell out of me when it happened but she knew what she was doing better than I did. The pup was perfect after that

I think the puppy may have got a bite in on her hand if you watch her as the puppy goes away on its out and back. She grabs her hand and then wipes it. Poor little puppy. She should never be allowed to judge again. The hair in the puppy's face annoyed me too

Okay for a complete novice like myself, what is chalk helper and can you just use chalk by it's self and what would you do with fairly hairless Whippet legs??? I use PP Whitening shampoo as well. Oso, the Ring 5 spray chalk is awesome on Whippy legs! Fawn and white Whippets are I prefer to show my boy without the pee stain he gets on one leg being visible - hardly cheating IMO. Yes I'd forgotten about Spray Chalk!! That's a good one too. I'd chalk any white part that had pink showing through. I don't see it as cheating either. I just like to present my dogs to the very best of my ability. If it means chalking them a little

I don't understand

Okay for a complete novice like myself, what is chalk helper and can you just use chalk by it's self and what would you do with fairly hairless Whippet legs??? I use PP Whitening shampoo as well. Chalk Helper is a product which helps hold the loose chalk in the dog's legs. I put the Chalk Helper on then powder the legs and brush the excess back out. When I was showing my Whippy girl, I used block chalk on her legs. I just rubbed it on and brushed the excess out with a soft brush. I used to use the PP Whitening shampoo on her as well. She is a fawn and white and very gorgeous I am a little biased though LOL

I absolutely chalk my dog's whites before I go in the ring. I can't stand dirty looking dogs and have NEVER in the last 13 years of exhibiting been pulled up for doing so. What I have received though is a lot of compliments for my lovely clean/white dogs Oh and I use Plush Puppy Herbal Whitening shampoo Cherry Knoll Chalk Helper Chalk Powder for legs Block chalk for noses.

This is such a pet peeve of mine. It happens quite a bit in my breed and it drives me nuts I can't understand how someone thinks it's ok to charge WAY more for a different colour when the pedigree is exactly the same. It helps create fads in my opinion. Anything for a quick dollar

I wonder what Dogs NSW would do if the 165 GSDs entered turned up at the Allbreeds W/D ring to be judged, we did pay our entry fee (Way much more than the other working dogs) to be included in the judging and runoffs etc Very interesting. Let's see what we can organise next year Why don't you all email Dogs NSW with your complaints. Maybe something will be done to rectify this if they are informed of the GSD people's concerns. I would like to see the BOB GSD compete in the group as well, I can't remember the last time it did. Let us know how you get on with Dogs NSW

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Yes they do.

I'd take her along to shows but not show her. When the rings are free, take her in and play lots of games with her and make it very exiting. After a while, introduce a show like setting. Have a friend be the judge and go through the motions making lots of fun and a huge fuss when she has her tail up and is happy. It's a slow process but it's worked for me in the past. It took about 2 months before the dog was very happy to be in the ring again. It did work though

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Property classes at the NSW BCC shows are done prior to breed judging by a different judge. No one has won BIS at this stage. However at some of our semi specialties property is done by the same judge AFTER BIS has been judges. In this case I have never entered my dog when I've been lucky enough to win BIS. Let someone else win a fringie

This is the best post I've ever seen on DOL You've explained exactly how it was for us when our darling Shiva was given her wings earlier this year. I absolutely believe that this special girl had a soul. I also absolutely believe that I WILL see her again someday. Nothing anybody says will ever convince me to believe otherwise. She was far to special to be just "gone"

Michael at Erina Heights is a brilliant vet. I'd recommend him to anyone

While I can see your side, I applaud those breeders who are putting time and effort into breeding litters of gorgeous purebred puppies for the pet market. Why shouldn't people have top notch, well bred pet dogs? These are the breeders who are truly doing something to stop the sale of one more puppy farm or BYB pup. For each pet puppy that comes from an ethical registered breeder, that's one less puppy that's sold by an unreputable, unreliable source. But they'll get them anyway (well most certainly in our two breeds where the litter sizes are usually generous). A breeder can't keep the whole litter. I agree with DancinBcs 100% with this comment.