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  1. https://caninetraining.com.au/dog-blog/can-rspca-be-trusted?fbclid=IwAR1jCkUaW400DpAesce9txtG1E_PdwBprErE8uJXb-R28CK4NWo4AZvP48o Can RSPCA be trusted to help our dogs? Soap Box Friday, 03 May 2019 110 Hits RSPCA are one the biggest killers of dogs with behavioural issues, not only in Australia, but every country they operate in. You only have to look up their statistics. A society that is supposed to be an advocate for animals and have sworn to protect them, and yet can't (won't) even modify many of the dogs behaviours that are taken into their care, due to pushing an emotive ideology that is in their minds, more important than a dogs life. Instead of opening their minds and looking for alternative help, they prefer to kill. RSPCA should be the last organisation governments and society should be looking too in regards to responsible dog training, behaviour modification and training tools. RSPCA treat trainers that will not support their positive only ideology like lepers. A number of years ago, whilst I was operating in Adelaide, I put my hand out and publicly (and directly to RSPCA SA via email) offered to help RSPCA modify dogs behaviours that they deemed not suitable for re-homing and therefore allocated to be euthanised, FREE OF CHARGE. They didn't even bother responding to my offer, and instead blocked me from their Facebook page when I publicly offered this type of help directly on their page. Here was a trainer, wanting to HELP save dogs lives, but their cognitive dissonance wouldn't allow them to accept my offer, or to even acknowledge and thank me for my offer. I know of a few dog trainers that have offered RSPCA similar help, with similar results. Totally ignored! Governments and society need to wake up to the agenda RSPCA are pushing. There needs to be a full government inquiry into the RSPCA's operations, and how in reality they are putting the welfare of our dogs second to an emotive ideology that has statistically been proven to fail in a lot of cases. Even if an alternative method of training can save only a few dogs lives each year, isn't it worth the effort? However, in my personal and professional opinion, the numbers of dogs that could be helped and be saved that the RSPCA are failing would be extremely high. But I guess we will never know, as I believe ego, and the fear of being proven to be wrong is too much of a cross for them to bear. If our dogs lives are so important to them, then a training ideology proven not to be highly successful should not be more important than the welfare of our dogs. Dogs lives matter! #dogslivesmatter
  2. well no one here , but this lady is trying to stay within the new law already Jacqi Xena Xolo Yesterday at 22:14 So tonight I was practicing my new approach with the impending new Government Dog standards coming in. Instead of “ Cmon pee pee time” I said “Excuse me, would anyone like to partake in a toilet break on the lawn” well everyone just sat there, not one moved, I rephrased my question. “Good afternoon my beautiful Furless family, I’m thinking about taking a stroll out the front of the house, if anyone wants to relieve themselves while we walk, that would be lovely, I shall of course have my first aid kit tied to my back, keeping my hands free to better serve you all” nothing, no one moved. Feeling I had failed and becoming worried myself, my husband yells out “Stop talking to the dogs your making them anxious” . I went to the garage to get the first aid kit for our outing, when I returned, Supch Besitos Naca ( Hoover) had shat near the fire place, Taha had pissed on his shit, Annata had peed on this in her bitches britches ( guess that’s rude now too) Annata peed in her girly pants. Trying not to get stressed with the melting poop and smell and mess, I just sat and cried, Colin yells “Stop, your making the dogs anxious” I guessed after emptying out they didn’t want to go outside to toilet now, so I went out by myself (not to toilet). With the door closing, it stressed the dogs , thinking I was leaving them I guess, Colin then yells “Stop making the dogs anxious” Chamuco waiting to go out then pees on the floor in sheer terror, (unknown to me) racing in to settle the dogs I slip on the fresh pee, lying there in agony I remember I can’t scream, cry or seem upset ( we can’t make the dogs anxious). Looking at the dogs they do seem anxious, so I decide to go to the vet, just to be sure . Normally a 30 minute drive, sadly now practicing for the new rules we avoid any roads with traffic calming devices (speed bumps) it takes 2 hours 5 mins to get to the Vet. I left Colin home as he was stressed from carrying the first aid kit up the road whilst walking Annata as every second car stopped and ask him if he was ok and needed help. But yeah, we are ok! Guess it could have been worse with Police and people chasing us...........
  3. Looks like NSW is due for some new laws too. so much for being consulted on future legislation as we were assured was going to happen after the meeting last year. Or they would not need to be asking for clarification. NSW DPI and the NSW Office of Local Government are improving companion animal breeding practices and promoting responsible pet ownership in a number of ways. Regulations and legislation relating to the companion animals has had strong Government focus, particularly in recent years. Recently, the DPI issued a brochure outlining some new practices that will be introduced from 1st July 2019. The information provided in that brochure was basic and did not encompass how DOGS NSW members and registered breeders should proceed in relation to Breeder Identification Number or DOGS NSW membership number use when advertising dogs or puppies for rehoming. To ensure DOGS NSW members are provided with accurate information and can be ready for compliance with the new practices from the 1st July 2019, we have sought further information and clarification on the aspects of these changes that may have confused some members. Be assured that as soon as this information has been provided to DOGS NSW, it will be made available to the membership. DOGS NSW Address: 44 Luddenham Road Orchard Hills NSW 2748
  4. unreal since when was a "law" voluntary? "“I think everyone else generally across the community has the same attitude, so let’s just have strong standards of animal welfare. These are voluntary and they’re a draft.” https://thewest.com.au/news/wa/wa-government-draft-guidelines-tell-dog-owners-to-stop-training-if-pet-gets-anxious-ng-b881183852z?utm_campaign=share-icons&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&tid=1556758561937&fbclid=IwAR1uNMDMi6XN84vNjVd1m_oKDR7ay78V68C_bxIJIn0EdjRN8j4IbFSytzY https://thewest.com.au/news/wa/perth-dog-experts-criticise-wa-governments-draft-guidelines-for-dog-owners-ng-b881184683z?utm_campaign=share-icons&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&tid=1556758421507&fbclid=IwAR33qxqeTXaCqx4mjZtI3-86PSB-bmL7xuOfyWwLMwPYbIPX8CaJeZrF7ug
  5. "Michelle Steigmeyer 13 August 2017 · Elkhart, IN, United States There's a woman that jogs with her GSD every day by the Indiana K9 Learning Center. She puts a prong collar on her huge working dog and off they go. We had a nice visit over the fence the other day. I complimented her on her dog's manners. I stood about six feet from her when we initially met and he was relaxed and unconcerned. (And no, I didn't ask if I could pet him). That's when I find out what a mean owner she is. Her large GSD carries a doggy style backpack with water in it and she's been told that's mean. She stopped at a yard sale, bought some books, put them in the backpack and she was told that's mean. She's been chastised for running her dog with her because running a dog is mean. I'm not sure why someone would feel that a 100 pound working breed isn't capable of carrying 10 pounds of books but someone did. I'd say that person has never looked up what a GSD was bred for. It's bred for work! I know a Canadian that has huge herds of sheep free ranging on hundreds of acres. He has two border collies that he sends out as a team to round them up and bring them in to be counted. They'd go out before the sun was up and by mid afternoon they'd have them gathered in a large pen for him. He'd do a head count, open the gate and off they'd go. Imagine the intelligence and duration those dogs have to do that seven days a week! Now take those dogs and put them in an apartment. Yowza! How about the frustrated woman who brought her German Short Haired Pointer in for classes...AKC's website said the breed is "easy to train" so she got one. She's a white collar wife with a young son who lives in a suburban neighborhood. That breed may be easy to train for a hunter or someone that is experienced with independent, strong willed breeds but she was really struggling with him. His energy level, strong personality and tenacity is a requirement for the job he was bred to do but a typical owner will really struggle with this breed. Can we all agree on something right here, right now? Every dog that is in a home, in a shelter, in the show ring, or anywhere else comes from someone that was breeding dogs for a purpose. It may be way back in the dog's pedigree but it's there. Hunting, fighting, chasing, pulling, retrieving, protecting, patrolling, killing...your dog laying at your feet right now has ancestors that did at least one of those tasks very, very well. Those instincts don't disappear when they walk through your front door and become your family pet. There's a reason terriers are tough! Because you have to be a tenacious little shit to go down a hole after a rodent bigger than you knowing you're likely to get bitten. There's a reason you can't get your beagle's nose off the ground during agility classes. Watch a youtube video of beagles in the field! There's a reason your whippet wants to chase every squirrel in the yard. Watch a youtube video of sighthounds lure coursing! There's a reason that cattle dogs go in low and nip anything moving. Watch a youtube video of them working cattle! Here's the kicker...a cattle dog that goes in low and nips is probably the result of someone's responsible breeding. Same with the beagle, the whippet and the border collie. Those are desirable behaviors in each breed. Understanding the propensity of certain behaviors in breeds and mixes will help owners understand where the behavior is coming from. It doesn't mean the dog gets a free pass for the behavior, but someone looking for an agility dog may not want to go with a bloodhound "because I just love their ears" or a herding breed "because I want a dog to lay around all weekend with." All of us in the dog industry, including shelters and rescues, have a responsibility to the dogs we're in charge of and the people that want to add them to their family. We're responsible to educate the uneducated." As a breeder though, It is utterly amazing how so few even seem to read the add. let alone some of the really good articles like this one above. But can always live in hope.
  6. just click and when it opens keep clicking the sides,.. no idea how many are in the series, haven't found the end yet... n WARNING......... some are coffee spitters...........
  7. frankly after looking after a friends dogs who were debarked, I agree with Rebanne, they still could bark just it didn't carry far ...didn't worry them at all. So how anyone could say its cruel puzzles me, so many much loved dogs are put down now because so many vets refuse to do it ... seems to me the animal rights nutters have another win at the dogs expense. people today have no tolerance to a barking dog anymore. Another friend had the worst barker I ever knew, he seemed to love the sound of his own voice. didn't have a nervous bone in his body. In his case after being debarked he did get louder and louder over a two year period and being a big dog he really was a noise pain.. the problem of his constant barking was he landed a job at a car yard in an industrial area so no neighbours to complain, but these days there's not much call for that line of work anymore. Good luck. I hope you find a solution
  8. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-04-18/history-of-modern-dog-breeds-invented-in-victorian-era/11019320 How the Victorians engineered the dog breeds we love today RN By Joey Watson and Ian Coombe for Late Night Live Updated about 11 hours ago Photo: In many instances man created, standardised, and perfected his own best friend. (Unsplash: Mathew Henry) Related Story: The ethics of breeding dogs: to what extent should people play God? Related Story: Dancing dogs star in new show inspired by niche sport 'canine freestyle' The Victorian era gave the world everything from photographs to radio, the bicycle, X-rays and even postage stamps. But perhaps one of its most lasting inventions was one that didn't save lives, advance economies or connect people. It gave us the dogs we love today. Michael Worboys, an emeritus professor at the University of Manchester who has traced the history of dog breeds, says pure-breed pups are products of the industrial revolution. "The changes wrought on dogs in the Victorian era were revolutionary, as was the very adoption of breed as way of thinking about and remaking varieties of dog," he says. "For most of history what dogs did counted more than [how they] looked. "[That was] until the Victorians started to develop competitive dog shows and produced the kind of dogs that we know today." Space to play or pause, M to mute, left and right arrows to seek, up and down arrows for volume. Audio: Hear more from Michael Worboys on the creation of the modern dog (Late Night Live) Best in show Before the mid-19th century dogs were named for the task they would perform, rather than any defining characteristic. If it retrieved it was a retriever; if it was able to round up sheep it could be called a sheepdog; if it guarded it was a guard dog. "The types of dogs that existed were bred to do particular tasks, like to collect game that had been shot or to protect sheep from wolves," says Professor Worboys, author of The Invention of the Modern Dog. Photo: Dogs were once named for the task they performed — like retrieving. (Unsplash: John Price) That began to change in the 1830s, when the macabre sport of dogfighting was finally outlawed in Britain. Fighting dog breeders suddenly had a surplus of pups, and a horde of gamblers were looking for a new sport to lay their money down on. These circumstances gave rise to the idea of the dog beauty contest, which usually popped up in the bars and clubs of working-class Britain. "What they were looking for was the dogs that looked the most aggressive or that had the most beautiful coat," Professor Worboys says. Vital to these contests was a man named John Henry Walsh. Walsh, a doctor turned sports journalist, organised the first Wimbledon Lawn Tennis Championship in 1877, but also produced a series of books which laid out the rules for all Victorian sports. In the fold was the all-important dog show; the rules accompanied by a series of books that set out the standards for modern dogs. The true English pug, for example, should be "of a fawn colour, devoid of any smut approaching blackness [and] a coat that is sleek, shining and soft to touch". Photo: A greyhound and a pug as pictured in John Henry Walsh's book. (Extract from Dogs of the British Isles) Professor Worboys says the categorisation system was typical of the Victorian era, a period of industrialisation, standardisation and product differentiation. "There were any number of types of dogs around for millennia, but they were only standardised 150 years ago," he says. The classification system, and increasing competition at the dog shows, fuelled a quest to create the purest of the pure-breeds. Why do people want their pets to be Insta-famous? Social media's tendency for canine worship has given rise to a new breed of celebrity dog — what's become known as the pupfluencer? The so-called "top dogs" became commodities, bought, sold and hired out for stud duties, often for very high amounts. Entirely new breeds were also created as breeders began to genetically modify their pups. Through cross-breeding programs, they found they could highlight the most desirable attributes — and sift out undesirable ones. "In the very first edition of Walsh's book on the dog there were 27 types of dog," Professor Worboys says. "By the time you get to 1900 there are 80." Today, according to the Fédération Cynologique Internationale, the international peak body for dog breeders, there are more than 400 recognised breeds of pups. Bringing back the dead Other breeders brought back dogs that had been lost to history. This was the mission of Scotsman George Augustus Graham, who sought to genetically recreate the Irish wolfhound, which had gone extinct around 1720. Photo: George Graham stands proudly with his concocted version of the Irish wolfhound. (Extract from The Invention of the Modern Dog) "To the Victorians, the Irish wolfhound was a beast of legend," Professor Worboys says. "In the mid-19th century Graham travelled around Ireland collected dogs that people said had Irish blood, although they didn't look like the wolfhound." Graham took the dogs back to his estate in Gloucester and tried breeding them. But he had little success — most of his collected pups were infertile or refused to breed — and decided instead to start from scratch. He imported a crop of Scottish deer hounds, said to appear as miniature versions of the Irish wolfhound, and mixed the breed with a great dane to give it some size. Then, a Tibetan mastiff and a boxer were brought into the mix. The resulting mongrel, which bore some resemblance to the illustrations of the lost breed, was called the Irish wolfhound. It has now been embraced as a pure-breed. "Around Dublin the Irish wolfhound is on all the buildings as the as the iconic national Irish dog," Professor Worboys says. "And the current one was invented by an Englishman from Scottish, Danish, Tibetan, and Russian stock." The wolfhound is not alone in its mongrel heritage. The golden retriever was produced by mixing yellow-coloured retriever with a tweed water spaniel, and inbreeding their litter. A matter of fashion Photo: Victorian aristocrats, pictured in a satirical cartoon, became famous for their thirst for new dog types. (Extract from The Invention of the Modern Dog) If the working-class dog show was the birthplace of the dog breed, its cradle was the British aristocracy who began to buy dogs not for retrieving, herding or shows, but personal fashion. "At the end of the century there was a fashion for Russian dogs bought solely to sit of the lap of a lady called lap dogs," Professor Worboys says. "The main thing they wanted was a loving dog that would put up with being carried around in a handbag and eating funny foods and all the rest of it." The idea of breeds also appealed to the socially stratified sensibilities of the upper class who saw themselves, like their dogs, as being the product of a finer genetic lineage. "The upper classes defined themselves as 'dog lovers' who were themselves of the right breeding, to use their parlance," Professor Worboys says. "And if you look at Victorian dog books, they have the pedigrees of dogs laid out in the same way that pedigrees of aristocratic families that were laid out." Dog owners today still covet the pure-breed as the supreme pup. Breeds like the chow chow can fetch up to $10,000 per dog. So next time you pat a royal corgi or throw a ball for a labrador, perhaps spare a thought for those who invented it.
  9. interesting post on fb today. Especially since this is a purebred ankc dog website and directly impacts all and has done so and continues. " Alison yesterday l looked at all the dogs at Wacol, not one purebred, not one small dog. There were staffie crosses, bull arabs, kelpie crosses, cattle dog crosses - plain to see the breeders of PURE breeds are not the problem! We never have been, yet they crucify us with all the restrictive legislation they put forward to the govt." Photos of some of the dogs listed AND what they should look like. Too much to hope the government will ever realise or learn, pedigree breeders are NOT the problem they have been made out to be for decades.. none of the laws target the real source the millions bred by accident or design that actually fill the pounds. just click on the link and scroll. Even sadder, their real owners would have no chance of finding their dog, ring and say you lost a brindle x bred , will be told, no we only have a boxer here..... and so on for each of these so missnamed dogs breed....
  10. WA members keep eyes peeled. Distinctive white male miniature schnauzer 5 months old stolen. Microchipped and registered. Not yet sterilised. Valuable champion blood of sought after white line. Family devastated Stealing family members disgusting
  11. http://www.horizontimes.com/worldwide/smartest-dog-breeds/66
  12. BE almost a movie plot if it was not so tragic. Melanie Coe shared a post. RSPCA V BORDER COLLIES, THE FACTS The RSPCA did an inspection on a breeding facility in mid-2018, finding minor compliance issues, shortly after that visit, several dogs became sick, so the animals were put into quarantine, resulting In a sharp rise in adult dogs, as puppies aged beyond 3 months. October 2018; The RSPCA then raided the same facilities, sighting behavioural issues with “most of the animals” as they were shy and not coming forward to inspectors. No physical faults were mentioned, only mental health concerns. (several videos of those assessments are now available on line) They seized 10 adults’ dogs, 5 puppies new born (2 weeks) with most being pregnant bitches. November 2018; The RSPCA wrote to the owner, asking for animals to be signed over to avoid further costs, which were already at $3,800, sighting the dogs are better off to be put down. December 2018; A report was completed in early December 2018, by RSPCA (ex-staff) new behaviorists, and charges readied based on the mental health issues assessed by the RSPCA. At the same time those assessments were being drafted, the owner’s lawyers received an application from the RSPCA to kill those dogs and puppies seized, by now several seized animals had given birth to puppies. The RSPCA also sought a massive $53,000 in costs for the upkeep of the animals over the first 10/11 weeks. January 2018; The RSPCA issued court orders to both seize all the animals left at the facilities and to kill those in their care. Upon receipt of the demand to kill all the animals, the owners sent in their local veterinarians to inspect the animals in the RSPCA care, his report was that the animals in the RSPCA were heathy and should not be killed. The owners contacted Mark Aldridge, to see if he could help save the animals from being killed, supplying him with photos of the animals, legal documents, their compliance’s ect. Mark then arranged further independent assessments of the animals in a move to save them from being killed by the RSPCA. Also making enquires with the local council to ensure compliance. INDEPENDENT ASSESSMENTS CONTINUED 18th of January an independent combined report (Top local SA vet & local experienced Behaviourist.) CONCLUSION: 1. The current environment the dogs are in is detrimental to their health 2. Returning the dogs to their owner or allowing them to be rehomed will improve their wellbeing 3. None of the dog or pups inspected showed any sign of aggression, they were timid and shy, but this could be part due to their current environment 4. No reason was found to have the adult dogs or pups killed. Notes from that report also stated: a) From the notes........ I read on the front of the kennels, there has been no appropriate handling of these animals, in my opinion the dog are now much worse situation than the facilities they were taken from having view both. b) In my opinion the RSPCA need to assess their own housing arrangements, because storing dogs on death row is unacceptable. c) I have seen the initial report completed for the RSPCA by XXXXXX, and it would be an interesting read if the same report was prepared in the facilities, they are now in. THE RSPCA FACILITIES; Mark Aldridge also was able to view the RSPCA facilities, noting they were not to current regulation and totally unacceptable for anything but very short-term care. The Independent experts also noted the facilities were not suitable for long term care, quoting that the animals were in much better facilities before seizure. The CEO of the RSPCA noted the same in 2018, stating “The problem is Lonsdale is too old now”. We cannot offer best practice animal care, and that, “At the end of the day, Pets are just so much better off, out in the community (CEO Paul Stevenson). Mark after receiving the initial independent report and the two latest ones, wrote to the minister to investigate the matter, as it was 3 reports the dogs were fine to 1 report they were not. Advocating for the animals to be released into independent care, and from there to be rehomed, with the support of the experts and the owners. Mark met with the Animal advisory committee on the recommendation of the Minister, and advocated for various changes, which were well received. The courts regardless of the many reports in favour of releasing the animals, found in favour of signing them over to the RSPCA to do with them as they pleased, which was still to kill the border collies. Mark then arranged further legal support to appeal that decision, to buy time for the animals, with a fabulous offer from a caring Barrister who was obviously an animal lover. On the 7th of February Oscars law, opposed Marks work, and set to target Mark and those professionals helping him, citing they were supporters of puppy farms and posting incorrect photo and naming people not involved. (Oscars law work very closely with the RSPCA) 8th February 2019; The RSPCA’s response was to create a SECOND report to address that appeal. Shortly after 3 independent reports were produced, showing in each case the animals could be rehomed, the RSPCA arranged the second report by the same people that wrote their first one, it was produced on 24/2/19. The local council were also receiving pressure from Oscars law to close the facility, final inspections cleared the facility as being compliant That report again, recommended each, and every adult Border Collie was killed, asap. Interesting the report showed the animals in most cases were worse than the condition when first seized. Same diagnosis but with addition potential for fear aggression” was quoted in the report. A couple of the animals were supposedly better, but still “Humane euthanasia as soon as possible” was applied to every animal in this report. In the RSPCA reports and court applications, Mark noticed they both wanted to seize all the animals at the facility and or have the courts demand the owners hand them over and that a majority of around 75% of the animals at the registered breeding facility were as damaged mentally as the ones seized. “The first report stated that the RSPCA would have seized more but did not have the ability on the day, and that “humane euthanasia of most of the animals may be the best option” Mark Aldridge then worked with the Breeder to safe guard the many other animals yet to be seized, which resulted in the owner handing the animals over to him, so he could ensure they were taken in by the best no kill facilities he could find. No applications by Mark went beyond trying to save the first 10 dogs seized and their pups and to ensure the safety of the remaining animals. The owner agreed, so a total of around 80 dogs and pups were released to several top Australian shelters. The Supreme court appeal failed, meaning the seized Border Collies were now owned by the state, in the control of the RSPCA who still wanted to kill them all. The RSPCA then became aware that the rest of the animals earmarked by their behaviorists to be seized and possibly killed, had been moved out of the breeding facilities. One of the shelters who took on an amazing 37 dogs, started a petition to demand the RSPCA release the remaining dogs to them, seeing as it was beyond the RSPCA’s abilities to both house the animals adequately and rehabilitate them. Attracting near 100,000 signatures Videos of the RSPCA assessments and some documentation was leaked onto the net, creating a major issue for the RSPCA, as experts from all over Australia were appalled at their assessment strategy, so they then produced media releases which were taken up word for word by many media outlets. Making matters worse for the RSPCA, is that all the independent self-funded shelters were having great success with all the animals they had saved from their grip. Producing photos and videos clearly showing the animals were indeed mentally stable and rehomable. This resulted in the RSPCA again publishing their position and refusing to back down in respect of killing the animals in their facilities, eventually deciding to announce they had only killed 4, which undermined all their court applications and their behaviorists reports. The Rspca media reports quoted a variety of made up facts, and used irrelevant photos, quoted an owner who was not and animal numbers their own legal documents undermined, there was never 300. News also became evident that the RSPCA had on-sold the many puppies born in their facilities by the dogs seized, on-selling them for $850 each, a total of up to 27 puppies, some of which the original reports had also labelled mentally damaged. Regardless of any facts, all that matters are the innocent voiceless animals, all those that the RSPCA did not seize are now safe and loving their new homes. Let’s hope there are many lessons to be learned, how regulated breeders operate, lowering how many animals are allowed at a regulated facility, better investment in social services for all animals and improved facilities and networks to ensure the safety of any animals seized under the legislation. And with out any doubt, changes to the assessment regimes that labelled re-homable animals as only worthy of death.
  13. Wish foundation haven't given up yet https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/animals/wa-bid-to-save-death-row-sa-dogs-goes-viral-ng-b881157368z?utm_campaign=share-icons&fbclid=IwAR0KRujBm_ITyuqgjOufE5cLeI6_JWoBc-A4GftUZdQCgkYNx6s1WAxxbxg WA bid to save death-row SA border collies goes viral John FlintPerthNow April 7, 2019 10:00AM TOPICS WA News A Perth animal rescue group’s bid to save six border collies from “death row” in South Australia has generated more than 82,700 signatures on a petition. WISH Animal Rescue Team volunteers have already done one five-day road trip across the Nullarbor to bring back 37 dogs they feared were earmarked for euthanasia. And it is begging the RSPCA to let it have six border collie “mums” the organisation claimed were too traumatised to be rehomed. WISH founder and president Kylie Wishart has even offered the South Australian RSPCA $1000 for each of the dogs in a bid to save them. The group’s petition has gone viral. The six dogs were among 10 adult border collies seized from a breeding facility at Lameroo, 200km from Adelaide, on October 23 last year. Five dependent puppies were also taken and 18 have been born since. The RSPCA claimed it found almost 300 dogs at the property, far exceeding “the breeders’ council-issued licence permitting a maximum of 100 dogs”. The rescued dogs playing. The 10 seized border collies were considered “to be in the worst condition, exhibiting the most chronic behavioural issues and mental suffering”. Four of them were put down this week to the dismay of WISH and other rescue organisations that had offered to take and rehabilitate them. “Despite all of the rehabilitation measures, these four dogs continued to show deeply entrenched signs of chronic fear and potentially dangerous unpredictability,” the RSPCA said in a statement on Wednesday. “As a responsible rehoming organisation, we simply cannot and will not release animals to the community that pose a significant risk to public safety. “RSPCA staff continue to look after the six remaining adult dogs as part of ongoing efforts to rehabilitate them.” Ms Wishart fears the six will be put down. She said the 37 dogs taken from the breeder’s property were all adjusting very well in their new surroundings with her group’s network of foster carers across Perth. “Out of the 37 dogs, not one has bit yet,” she said. “We’re halfway through our vet work and all our vets are falling in love with them. They’re stunning dogs.” She said WISH volunteers made the dash from Perth to South Australia after a report prepared for the RSPCA recommended putting down many of the remaining dogs at the breeding facility. “I believe that a large number of the dogs will continue to suffer from their severe mental health disorder, despite rehoming,” the report stated. “As such, humane euthanasia is is likely the best course of action.” Ms Wishart said she was stunned by the huge reaction to the petition and the flood of support to the group’s Facebook page. “It has gone viral. I didn’t expect that sort of reaction. It’s insane,” she said. Another vet who inspected the 10 seized adult dogs at the RSPCA’s Adelaide shelter on behalf of the breeder claimed the dogs were suitable to be rehomed. These dogs simply require human interaction, not the death penalty Dr Chris Girling said. “These dogs are not dangerous, they are timid and shy, part of the typical border collie submissive behaviour,” he wrote. He criticised the separation of the mums from their pups and said the shelter accommodation at the RSPCA was worse than where they were before. The SA RSPCA, which has charged the breeder with 17 offences, said it “appreciated the offers from well-intentioned rescue organisations to take these dogs”. “The professional advice RSPCA has received to date indicates it would be highly irresponsible and inhumane to place these dogs into foster care or make them available for adoption,” it stated. “The (20) puppies currently display no major behavioural issues. All are suitable for rehoming and RSPCA is confident of finding good homes for every one of them.”
  14. Win some lose some, one friend in the animal care industry has unfriended me over the videos of the border collies. whereas this was just shared on FB Nafela Rifaii I’d like to make an awareness post. I often see clueless people on here making comments about how lovely the RSPCA are. If you don’t work in the animal care industry I reckon you have no idea. I rescue cats every single day, and I work in the animal care industry. This is just one of many incidents. Friday I received a phone call about a little kitten which was abandoned at the park. I rushed there to find this little one whom is no older then 2 days old. The vet clinic I work at being 2 hours away, and the park being closest to the RSPCA, my only option was to rush there to buy kitten milk replacement formula. They took one look at the kitten and not knowing that I work in a vet clinic and know my rights said to me right away, “you have to surrender the kitten to be euthanised. It’s far too young to survive on its own, you are inexperienced and the kitten will die anyways so we need to put it to sleep” I then informed them that I am not an idiot, that I work in the animal care industry, that I have experience hand rearing newborn kittens and I’m not here to start a debate, I simply wish to buy formula. The vet then said to me “hang on, I’ll go get formula from the back store and I’ll be back in a moment”. She reappeared 20 minutes later and said to me “I’m sorry but I’ve consulted with my co workers and we have decided not to sell you any milk because you are very irresponsible and the humane thing to do is to euthanise this kitten and we have the rights to seize the kitten off you”... I made it clear to her that I was going to give the kitten a chance instead of murdering it and that even if he has 1% chance of living we should at least try. I took the kitten with me and drove off. Of course they tried to persuade me to hand over the kitten to be euthanised before I left and one of them even followed me outside. I drove to my local vets and purchased milk from there. Day 3 and the little kitty is as healthy as ever and has not died. Like I’ve said this is just one incident. Matter of the fact is, the RSPCA are euthanising thousands and thousand of animals yearly and they need to be held accountable for this genocide. People need to be educated on this so called organisation that they are so quick and eager to sponsor, when in fact only a fraction of the money raised for animal welfare is actually used on the animals Edit: of course after sharing my encounter with all of you, the RSPCA have contacted me and tried to hit me with the “defamation” card hoping to scare me into deleting this post, but that’s exactly what they want and I am not backing down. The world needs to know exactly what they’re responsible for, in hopes that people will not donate and sponsor them anymore.
  15. https://www.facebook.com/WISHANIMALRESCUETEAM/photos/a.356018714536846/1366428686829172/?type=3&theater&ifg=1 ooo lots of photos and videos of them https://www.facebook.com/WISHANIMALRESCUETEAM/photos/a.356018714536846/1366428686829172/?type=3&theater&ifg=1
  16. Does not sound like the rescue group are on the side of the puppy farm? "at least Most of them been SAVED ... OMG.." " WISH Animal Rescue Team Perth WALike Page Yesterday at 09:31 We are feeling a little exhausted this week (but far, far from over it)after begging for these 10 plus innocent lives for 2 week - to no avail. Here in this video, while tears ran down my face from exhaustion and excitement, as we headed back from SA, loaded up with dogs in our car and the WISH RV full to the rim and dog trailer full of love and with all 42 of us just wanting to get home to WA. We put our favourite Jimmy Barnes on and got behind this truckie, who didn’t even know - that he was bringing us 42 home safely - after an exhausting 5 days on the road to rescue. Whoever you are, we thank you, you didnt even know that you were at the time our gurdian angel and thanks Jimmy you rock... But I need to say this. Zoo’s here have all changed. Look what Steve Irwin did and his wonderful family continue to do. They made all their animals worlds, as natural as possible. Every time we are sent a video from the public, in regards to this issue (and we have so many now) we are horrified to see the barbaric conditions out domestic dogs are kept in, while humans fight their fights in courts. We know of dogs that spend months to years on end in solitary confinement, when human court cases are impending. We find this whole situation a set up to fail from the start. Since October last year when they were seized, they have done nothing to restore the balance in these poor dogs. They did nothing for them to help them over come their fears. We are watching 37 dogs now after only a week, starting to play with toys and each other. We are seeing their playful side and puppyhood. We do not have an issue with the seizing of them for prosecution but OMG even humans in jail get tv, 3 meals a day, and exercise time out in the sunshine. If this was their intention to from the start to keep them isolated from their pack members (and they stated over crowding in breeders pens apparently 2 were kept together-well so they say) the one security they have even known. And being a pack member means, naturally, their is security in numbers. We will always be gutted for the fact. They took them from a neglectful situation and placed them in isolation. They cut out their sunshine and friends and and once a few had pups removed them from their mothers to leave them abandoned and alone. They studied them like monkeys in a zoo. With clip boards in hands. And not once have we seen a tear or soft word of compassion for these poor 10 adults and for that we will always be sorry, that they never gave us the chance to show them love and a beautiful world. They died in fear and unloved in a cold callous world and that is a hard pill to swallow. Our intentions was never ever to bad mouth the rspca, our only and utmost goal here-was to save them from death and isolation. This could of been handled better by them-if the dogs best interest was their main concern. But, their only concern was the prosecution of the breeders which we totally understand also but why did it have to be at the disgusting ending of these 4 dogs and we expect all 10. They have stated they are in fc and they can not release pictures and we feel that is absolute rubbish. They are the property of the rspca now to do as they wish hence the euthanasia of 4. If they have the right to euthanise them now, they have the right to take happy fc pictures of them being rehabilitated in fc homes. We have 37 in fc but there is over 80 others safe from the breeders and the rspca, and the other rescues are worried about the rspca and what they might do, if they find out who has them. But we are the voice for these puppy mill dogs and don’t bow down to being bullied by people in high places. Our love of dogs gives us the strength we need to stand tall and protect these innocent lives, as it seems no one else has to date. We have received only a few people saying, that we took their proof for courts and we are in cahoots with the breeders. Sadly they are wrong. The only side we stand on ‘’THE ONLY ONE’’ is saving these dogs lives and getting them into protection, away from EVERYONE who just wants them for a pawn in this human game. They deserved better and 4, expecting all 10 will never know how much we fought to give them a better life but we do and, thats all that matters here and to us. XOXOX We shouldn’t have to beg. #rescuedogsofinstagram #wishanimalrescue #savethebordercollies #adoptdontshop #cesarsos" https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=287436298840310 for some reason it will only open by highlighting and click on open in a new tab
  17. Comments and video shared, I was taught never to make eye contact with a dog I dont know as it is a threatening thing to do to a dog you dont know, until you have been introduced and the dog accepts you? Apparently all these videos are at the property of the breeder and their pens and sheds.... http://www.vetstreet.com/our-pet-experts/why-wont-my-dog-look-me-in-the-eye What a relief I was taught correctly, but wait, The ten were taken for not making eye contact, four of these dogs have now been put down because they failed to make eye contact when reassessed? quotes that are with the video below "Yet another assessment, thanks to whoever.Time to change how animal welfare is applied, who applies the law, and some well overdue honest and open debate, in favour of the animals for a change. I would have gone in and sat down, as owner had no issue with the dog, and let it come to me, surely to kill based on this quick assessment is wrong. The owners charges are based on this assessment as well." "Another of the behaviour tests carried out on the Border Collies by the rspca.Diagnosis: welfare state is extremely poor, suffering SEVERE MENTAL HARM.Recommendation: to be euthanised as soon as possible.Well this just leaves me speechless, this is cruelty of the highest order! Many dogs will avoid eye contact if you are poking a phone at them, l actually feel sick seeing this. Throws food at them instead of sitting down, looking in the other direction and softly offering a treat." " Well if you needed any more proof that the rspca has morphed into PETA, this video is it! They went there to find dogs to kill not to help dogs in need or suffering. Since when is SEVERE MENTAL HARM listed in the legislation as a reason to seize and destroy? I will tell you when ... NEVER! Who is this woman? She is not a behaviourist. Petition is the only answer." " what is the story behind why they were there in the first place. If it is because of the number of dogs they are breeding it doesn't fit with their approval of the dog/puppy farm they just gave their blessing to up north. I was going to ask this too, because those kennels look good for kennels. 1 OMFG. I just watched this, something needs to be done. Have these animals been saved. If I walked into any kennel of a dog I did not know and threw biscuits at it why oh why would it come out. The only reason would be if it was a very hungry savage beast and this is obviously a dog that is not hungry or treat motivated nor was it fearful or savage. Please why are they at this property. The girlfriend of the owner has previous convictions for running unsatisfactory puppy farms, so the owner of this more than adequate facility is guilty by association according to the rspca, these were revenge raids. The kennel is Council approved by the way. This is crap do you have to let them onto your property and into the kennels with your dogs Unless you know your rights and have an action plan in place (a local policeman you know, or your local member who will drop everything and come to vouch for you), yes, they will force their way in. The legislation says they can only enter your property without your permission if there is actual cruelty or neglect evident from the front fence, then you can't stop them. Legally you can stop them setting foot inside your front gate but it's imperative to know your legislation in relation to entry. could someone please explain to me why they are taking a towel into each kennel? Is 'towel therapy' a new theory of how to scare dogs more "look at this thing i can wave in your face because I'm not scary enough"
  18. copied from fb page "..RSPCA SA temperament test, one of many recent ones, where they stated the animals could not be rehomed, only took them a few minutes to decide. Interesting background story to this process indeed. You see these puppies would have been homed, but on the first RSPCA inspection, the kennel came down with Kennel cough, so animals had to be quarantined. Then the RSPCA returned and made this decision, and applied the same process to 70 other lovely dogs. Luckily the RSPCA could only seize 10, pregnant bitches. That enabled me to get these puppies support and new homes, and a successful call out to other great shelters to get the rest to safety. Full story to come, with a fundraiser to help those great carers. We are still in the courts to safe guard those taken by the RSPCA. Who have had two reports done that they must be put down asap, my reports from top local vets and Behaviourists beg to differ. Find out today if we have saved them, or if they will be killed. These pups would have already been re-homed except the rspca bought KENNEL COUGH in on their shoes on their previous visit so the whole place had to be quarantined. Your tax dollars are given to the rspca via govt grants to enable them to do this Inspectorate work. THIS IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH. THE ANIMALS DESERVE BETTER! These dogs would be fine in a home 1 family situation ! Border Collies are not supposed to be friendly with strangers and I imagine their humans would have been distraught which they would have picked up on and been stressed Why did they take them anyway, the run was spotless and they looked clean and in lovely condition.....OR was it just because their pups could be sold for heaps "
  19. Prior to 1.39 Video footage at the breeders facility, from 1.39 filmed at rspca facility.....
  20. WISH Animal Rescue Team Perth WALike Page Yesterday at 09:30 3/4/2019 A note to RSPCA South Australia and RSPCA Australia We know your watching. We know your reading this. We know you've been inundated with hundreds of calls and emails. We know more than 75000 people support us in our attempt to save the Border Collies. We know that you want to shut the breeder down. But we also know that killings these dogs to "prove" a point, isn't the answer. When Fridays court proceedings concluded, and you were awarded the right to decide what happens with the Border Collies now in your care, we cringed. Cringed because we knew your plan was the kill them. We have been asked how we know this, and the answer is simple. YOU TOLD US in the court documents. "The application said that it was in the best interests of the animals that some (if not all) of the adult dogs be humanely euthanized, and that the rest of the dogs be re-homed from the shelter to a new family or rescue facility." Not only does this show us that you already had your mind made up regarding the adults, but that you proposed the option of "rescue facility". So why now only days later are you stating that you will not allow another rescue group to take them on, or even give us the chance to asses them for ourselves. Your media release stated that "We already have very experienced foster carers who could be called upon if the dogs were capable of benefitting from housing in a domestic environment, and were safe to do so. Unfortunately neither is the case. The dogs’ behaviour indicates that they’ve had little or no experience of life outside a cage. Hence, they have likely never enjoyed the usual human interaction and socialisation received by family pets.". However we have 37 in care that beg to differ this story. We have adults upwards of 6 years old, and all they have ever known is kennels, yet are adapting perfectly, around children, babies, other dogs, cats horses, chickens, everything - and they are settling better than anyone could have expected or hoped. You stated that financially you cannot continue to house the 10 adults, and continue to pay expenses for them. We will take them off your hands TODAY. We will even assist in some of those costs and pay you $1000 PER ADULT. That is $10,000 towards your bills you have acquired. We will ADOPT all 10 adults from you and bring them into WISH Care. We will take over all future vet work, including desexing them and ending the breeding cycle for these ten, just like we have with the 37 in our care. Handing them over will not only free your kennels, but help you financially. Give us a month, let us place them with experienced foster carers who already know what they are dealing with as they have fostered siblings, aunts, mothers to your ten. Let us show you that we can save them. Let us allow you to show the public, that you choose an animals right to live, over the politics. Releasing these animals will not effect your upcoming court case. You have the evidence you need now. Please let them be dogs again, please let us save them. #savethebordercollies #wishanimalrescue
  21. The rspca's side of the story... fascinating.. nothing was allowed to be published while George Pell was facing or during trial. but these people have been tried by press release in this already? even added that "Both defendants have previously been convicted of dog breeding offences in Victoria." yet a convicted rapist is no mention is allowed to have past convictions revealed on the grounds it is prejudicial to the current case? Is it because they will not be tried before a jury , therefore trial by media is fine ............ https://www.miragenews.com/fact-check-rspca-south-australia-s-seizure-of-10-adult-border-collie-dogs/?fbclid=IwAR2WrubMMg0xeX7RTeGl4CA_5hWHlMLU1KoKoaDRmJiTTxBuq7UjfFXHEbg
  22. oh my? this is video of the dogs they seized. no one is safe then this is the information with the video. "OMG .. the Border Collie debacle in South Australia. Video was released today of the rspca Inspector assessing the dogs prior to seizing them. This is just mind blowing, it's very obvious to me these people don't have a clue what they're doing and are making it up as they go along.Things to note:• spotlessly clean, roomy kennel, with shadecloth over.• dogs are well groomed and look to be clean and in good condition. • these grubs were able to assess 4 dogs in 5 minutes, and only entered the kennel for 2 minutes. • no attempt was made to interact with the dogs, or even speak to them. • no attempt was made to come down to the level of the dogs, or to sit quietly and let them come to you. • the "little blue or grey" one who hid in the kennel was given a death sentence because it did not come rushing out with tail wagging at the total stranger who had entered it's home. • these dogs are exhibiting - in my opinion - very typical behaviour for Border Collies, they are a working breed, they are quick on their feet and they tend to 'slink' around, as they do when working sheep. • dogs aren't silly, when a stranger comes into their kennel exhibiting wary behaviour and not trying to engage with them at all, they are going to hide from that person if possible, guaranteed. 4 of the 10 seized dogs have now been put to sleep by the rspca, despite massive public outcry calling for them to be released to a rescue for rehabilitation. Well if this doesn't enable ANKC members to see the reality of what these criminals are doing, nothing will. Any one of us could be in this situation at some point in the future. I just cannot believe the rspca is getting away with this and the Minister won't lift a finger to step in and stop this sheer insanity." https://www.facebook.com/WISHANIMALRESCUETEAM/videos/405293983604644/?t=17 WISH Animal Rescue Team Perth WALike Page 15 hrs · This footage was sent to us today, showing the RSPCA conducting "inspections and assessments" at the Breeders Facility. I think the video speaks for itself..RSPCA are dead to us, they are gone but this is never ever forgotten xxx
  23. must have had the change of owner as he was listed as her dog, in her name and to her address, just no one was home when they rang, remember.
  24. was told to tell you "File an interlocutory order." sorry have no idea what it is, but a solicitor should know.
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