Erny Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 I'm a member . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oonga Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 you are too!!! Email the secretary and ask her for details and to be booked in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erny Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 Thanks Oonga. Have emailed her . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Rottweiler Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 (edited) Non members are welcome provided spaces are left.. $100 for the weekend for non members and this is what he is covering Seminar topics 1. Evaluation: what is a dog? 2. Genetics of a working dog. 3. Upbringing 4. Development to 12 months. 5. Responsible dog ownership 6. Breeding. 7. Training in our society 8. Tracking. 9. Obedience 10. Breed survey; how to prepare. RCV secretaries details are SECRETARY Mrs. Annette Slavin P.O. Box 2 Wandong. VIC. 3758 Phone: 0417 133 342 Edited May 4, 2009 by Herr Rottweiler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lablover Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 Started to write in my journal. Not complete (obviously LOL). Great to catch up with old and make new friends. Greatly enjoyed speaking also, to the first Australian to compete in Schutzhund overeas under our flag!!! Awesome. Seminar by Uta Bindels 2nd and 3rd May 2009 Upon arrival, we checked in and were given names tags. Great function room, nicely set up and apart from a couple of minor DVD player issues, mechanically great. Morning and afternoon tea, free tea and and coffee. LUNCH. Did I mention lunch, wonderful menu choice. Club members did a great job, feeding, watering and welcoming. Uta is from Germany, is slightly built, in her 30s?, and competes in (various ?) Schutzhund competitions. Her English was very good. She made use of a Dictionary, when translation difficulties arose important for key words. Her teaching skills were great, orderly and concise. Very patient and willing to listen and answer any question, without ego. Naturally due to distance, she did not bring her own dogs, but video during the 2 days, showed her young to adult examples, including during competition. The competition neck position worried me from a health point of view, but as tests are held on flat ground and are of relatively short duration. The Saturday morning session included operant and classical conditioning. blah blah blah blah blah Conclusion: (1) Once again reminded to train in small steps. Build success. (2) We as trainers need to reinforce correct/wanted responses. Very difficult for learner trainers. If the trainer does not know the correct response, ie good sit position, how are they are teach. (3) negative reinforcement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lablover Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 Ding ding ding...finally know you are are. HR, question please. You mentioned during Uta seminar, the IWDBA agreement from reseach, that pups who showed fear of floor changes....did not change with further development. What about pups who are reared with different floor changes? What other mental tests, do you think are worthwhile? Love to reattend their conference in Belgium next month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessca Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 Lablover, that was someone else who said that :p But HR could probably answer anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nekhbet Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 that was Boyd that brought up that point LL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kavik Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 Ooh was Boyd there? Haven't seen him in ages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lablover Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 O no...........I thought HR was Boyd!!!!!!!! O brother sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nekhbet Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 shame on you! yeah boyd was the one hobbling around on crutches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Rottweiler Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 LOL..i've been called worse. To be honest LL I dont know the answer to the question, however I can ask Boyd during the week and post his reply. I keep telling Boyd he should do a group seminar so maybe I will coax him sometime this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lablover Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 (edited) shame on you! yeah boyd was the one hobbling around on crutches My new clickers are causing brain wasting. That is my excuse, for the moment..... BTW, on Saturday night long suffering husband belittled my new toys/tools. Last night, with further thought, through the day, changed his mind. We are real interesting discussions. Wish I had a young dog to try afresh. Bit cheaty with older trained dogs. But fun.....really!!! Very surprised!!!!! but delighted. Clicking four dogs. My poor ears. Wondering if I am moving too quickly already....with rate of reinforcement. Oh well...trust what I see I suppose. The long and short of it, I like the way many chances of training are achieved. Drive training is good but does take extra time. Edited May 4, 2009 by Lablover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lablover Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 LOL..i've been called worse.To be honest LL I dont know the answer to the question, however I can ask Boyd during the week and post his reply. I keep telling Boyd he should do a group seminar so maybe I will coax him sometime this year. Thanks. Since their conference in Australia, I have purchased all their CDS. They are simply awesome!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lablover Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 shame on you! yeah boyd was the one hobbling around on crutches My new clickers are causing brain wasting. That is my excuse, for the moment..... BTW, on Saturday night long suffering husband belittled my new toys/tools. Last night, with further thought, through the day, changed his mind. We are real interesting discussions. Wish I had a young dog to try afresh. Bit cheaty with older trained dogs. But fun.....really!!! Very surprised!!!!! but delighted. Starting a heache..trying to think of NEW things to train. Spatula already been out, even the kettle to target. What else can I train that is NEW???? Clicking four dogs. My poor ears. Wondering if I am moving too quickly already....with rate of reinforcement. Oh well...trust what I see I suppose. The long and short of it, I like the way many chances of training are achieved. Drive training is good but does take extra time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nekhbet Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 i found the seminar really insightful especially how tightly she controls situations in order to only really cement the habit and pattern you want from the dog in a performance. I too find this a better way then what I have seen before with a clicker I think many of us are going to have to force our dogs lazy brains to think for themselves! now how do you do that with a mastiff ... *food food food food food food food* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lablover Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 i found the seminar really insightful especially how tightly she controls situations in order to only really cement the habit and pattern you want from the dog in a performance. I too find this a better way then what I have seen before with a clicker I think many of us are going to have to force our dogs lazy brains to think for themselves!now how do you do that with a mastiff ... *food food food food food food food* Some older folk...an example being me (too stubborn to learn!).. still cannot reply to individual sentences...forgive me. Nekhbet, Are you referring to the lead being on the dog (controlled situations), her views of socialisation and neutralisation? Left over food on the grounds? Have you been to other clicker seminars? Who does everyone feel the best in Australia? My dogs are so full of food today. Checked a couple of clicker sites (research and all LOL), and should have been feeding much less. No dinner tonight for my 4 competition dogs. Re your Mastiff......does he sit quickly ever. I mean no insult PLEASE, but do you forgive his non perfect "fast sit" structure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nekhbet Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 ok my post disappeared O_o no insult LL I think its the size of his nuts that slow his sit down I know he can do a bit better I dont think he will reach Malinois status though I'm going to feed 90% of their meals through some sort of work, most through what we're aiming for a BH for all 3 of them so there is a real incentive to work The only other clicker i have done is through NDTF but I'm finding working like Uta they are really more excited about getting their food - it has more value to them then any articles I may be using Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkySoaringMagpie Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 Finally made it back to Canberra tonight and got mobbed by the Salukis. It was an interesting experience being at a dog seminar where I knew NO-ONE but everyone was very friendly so it wasn't difficult. I didn't make it around to LukeW or Erny (apologies!) but managed to catch most others I think. I found it really useful to watch someone so precise and so good at solving problems in the moment. I made quite a few notes for the next time I teach a term at the club. I also admire her patience, the last clicker seminar I went to the (very well known) instructor took a clicker off a student and threw it away in frustration at the student's inability to get it right. Uta is a class act and I'll try and make sense of my notes sometime this week. I haven't been a huge fan of cocker spaniels in the past but I am a huge fan of Barkley - what a great dog! Also the black staffy was delightful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nekhbet Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 which one Ed or Molly (Sundy or Satdy ) Ed is such a DUDE! I'm in love ... Anita did you drive or plane? wow I found it hard enough back to Geelong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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