redangel Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 JUST of interest....being discussed on ch 7 Sunrise this morning (2nd March). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tilly Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 Yes ... and so should parents!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spottychick Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 Yes ... and so should parents!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tilly Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 I don't think it will stop dog attacks but it might promote more responsible dog ownership ... will be interesting to see how they think they will police it because they don't seem to police any other policy they have implemented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkySoaringMagpie Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 I don't think it will stop dog attacks but it might promote more responsible dog ownership ... will be interesting to see how they think they will police it because they don't seem to police any other policy they have implemented. Exactly. No point passing laws if they don't get enforced. Enforcing laws currently on the books would be a good start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nellbell Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 Great idea in principle but not in practice. Also if this assessment and criteria of the test was decided by a government appointed committee, no decision would ever be made and the cost of staffing and administering this process would far outweigh any benefit or purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christina Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 No because People learn to pass tests & say the right thing. It may be an idiot & useless test as it will be determined by the views of who sets it, like RSPCA. Many people pass tests & are still not capable or adequate for the thing, eg idiot drivers who have passed, incompetent people qualified in the workforce. It will not stop cruelty or idiot owners. Does every trainer & breeder do the right thing always ? Just another revenue raiser. More expense for the responsible people. We are over regulated in all aspects of society. Does it make a perfect world with everyone obeying the sometimes ridiculous rules ? No it does not. There is no exact right way to own a pet, just as there is no exact right way to bring up ones children. We are a society that likes being told what & how to do, with rules for everything. We don't need another useless one. We have animal welfare rules/laws, which are often not enforced by those in power, or over enforced. Waste of time, resources, that would achieve exactly nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhou Xuanyao Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 (edited) No. Just the fact it was discussed on Sunrise, the chances of me saying "no" are high. Those ignoramuses wouldn't know the first thing about dogs I would not take too much notice of anything they say. I support mandatory training and a few other potential initiatives, but not a "competency test". The idea is to learn, not to prove your "competent" straight away. Dogs are a learning process and it comes with time and experience, not from doing some test which is written to someone else's standards and beliefs about dogs. Edited March 3, 2010 by Lo Pan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Ruby Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 (edited) Maybe having to obtain a licence like you need to own a turtle or snake. People having to do a small course and test on the basics to owning a dog, cat, etc... And a fee, would maybe deter idiots. I think parents should have to do a course before becoming parents with a test that you have to pass and show 100% attendance or no baby bonus! ETA...compulsory training should be brought in too...just like microchipping....and proof of current vaccinations to be registered at a property. Edited March 3, 2010 by Red Ruby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeckoTree Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 pie in the sky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pebbles Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 I didn't see the program so don't know if it was aimed at any particular group ie first time owners etc. but I can just picture some of our tough old farmers around this district being told they have to pass a test Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savane Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 I think parents should have to do a course before becoming parents with a test that you have to pass and show 100% attendance or no baby bonus! I agree with this 100% I have 3 boys and do as many courses as I can find while bringing them up, parenting is hard word and I love assistance! I also do the same with a dog in the form of reading, this forum, asking lots of questions, obediance school. People that just get a pet and dump it in the backyard, don't desex, or ones that really irk me, buy a pup and go off to work 8 hours a day leaving the poor thing with nothing! So sad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keshwar Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 Maybe having to obtain a licence like you need to own a turtle or snake. People having to do a small course and test on the basics to owning a dog, cat, etc... And a fee, would maybe deter idiots.ETA...compulsory training should be brought in too...just like microchipping....and proof of current vaccinations to be registered at a property. Problem with this is that it will only affect responsible dog owners/purchasers. The idiots will simply avoid doing any of this stuff. It will just drive the purchase of some breeds underground. Re compulsory training - who is going to do it? The obedience clubs here in Canberra are flat out trying to get enough instructors now. I suspect it is the same elsewhere. I don't vaccinate my dogs annually - get them titre tested instead - should I now be made to give my dogs something I believe is harmful to them? How about we work on getting current laws enforced before bringing in new ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christina Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 I think parents should have to do a course before becoming parents with a test that you have to pass and show 100% attendance or no baby bonus! I agree with this 100% I have 3 boys and do as many courses as I can find while bringing them up, parenting is hard word and I love assistance! Dr Spock was the baby bible in the 70's for bringing up babies. He has since publicly admitted he was wrong in many of his ideas. One can not bring a child up to others rules & ideas. Each is an individual, has a family with varying ideas of the norm as well as cultural variations. Many people who have written these books have studied, have impressive qualifications & NO children of their own. The cultures where babies are with their mothers constantly, even tied on their backs while working & never left crying is at opposite opinion of western thinking. Which is leave the baby to cry, you will spoil it & have a right to your time. Modern practise of programming (re sleep/crying) your baby leaves me with distaste. If others want that fine, but I do not & would not want my children taught that this is right because the course said so & its the current trend. A course should be to teach those who need it how to bathe, change, feed & attend to the babies health. They are psychologically invasive, squash natural maternal instinct & can make mothers feel incapable, wrong & inadequate The human race did survive before we had all these people telling you how to do it & dogs also were trained, did not all bite & have problems. Actually there were far less problems with both years ago. Testing, licensing who can have children, who can have dogs We will all have to be tested, licensed to breathe soon, let alone breed. Maybe we should just all have our brains cloned. Then we can all behave in accord, as one, to whatever the higher power is ;) ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhou Xuanyao Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 (edited) Really interesting post. Maybe I was wrong about what I said re mandatory training. Worth some more thought. Edited March 3, 2010 by Lo Pan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nekhbet Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 (edited) Maybe having to obtain a licence like you need to own a turtle or snake. here in Victoria you just pay your fee and you can buy what you want. There is no assurance that you know anything about any of the creatures you are licensed to own. I can own crocodiles, roos, emus, various snake and lizard species ... all for a small fee each year and make sure I keep a log book up to date. As for mandatory training .. who would get that contract? Let me guess if the RSPCA has an opinion then only purely positive/delta accredited schools would apply ... and since there is no legislation saying any current dog schools need to have qualified people then most would fizzle and die, or demand would not be able to be kept up. I think just proving you went to SOME dog school (who provided their 'curriculum' to the local council) would be enough. If you dont turn up at all then you're reported. Easy. Edited March 3, 2010 by Nekhbet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
centitout Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 I dont do any formal obedience,dog school training-nor do i ever wish too.My dogs are extremely well socialised and responsive to me,that is all i want.I for one wont be going to any set training where that type of training may not suit my dogs.A big ,burly bloodhound entire male does not always respond to ignoring bad behaviour in the hope it goes away/purely positive approach . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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