hilaryo Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 Hi, thought this might be the best place to post this. Would anyone that has rehomed a bitch FOC on condition that she comes back for a litter have a contract that I could have a copy of please? Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t-time Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 What's FOC? ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hilaryo Posted October 3, 2010 Author Share Posted October 3, 2010 Sorry, free of charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakway Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 If you want make sure you have the bitch to breed with I would keep her in my own back yard. So many go down this path only to be very disappointed when it come to getting the bitch back. If I want to breed with a bitch it stays HERE. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miranda Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 (edited) If you want make sure you have the bitch to breed with I would keep her in my own back yard.So many go down this path only to be very disappointed when it come to getting the bitch back. If I want to breed with a bitch it stays HERE. I tend to agree with this, I would never put a bitch out on breeders terms in an ordinary pet home, it's just too risky especially if you don't know the people concerned. The bitch may have a mongrel litter, the people may find that having an entire bitch is too inconvenient and have her desexed without telling you or they may just decide that they don't want to part with her when the time comes for her to have a litter. Sure you have a contract in place, but if the bitch is desexed what's the point of it, what's done is done. And do you really want to have the hassle of trying to enforce the contract if things go wrong because there's absolutely no guarantee that you'll win. If you want a bitch to breed from, the best thing is to keep it yourself unless you are absolutely 100% sure that the people taking the bitch will meet all the conditions and uphold their side of the contract. Believe me people will promise anything when they take a puppy, but fulfilling those promises is a different thing entirely and the fact that they've signed a contract is irrelevant. Edited October 4, 2010 by Miranda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercharged Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 If you want make sure you have the bitch to breed with I would keep her in my own back yard.So many go down this path only to be very disappointed when it come to getting the bitch back. If I want to breed with a bitch it stays HERE. I tend to agree with this, I would never put a bitch out on breeders terms in an ordinary pet home, it's just too risky especially if you don't know the people concerned. The bitch may have a mongrel litter, the people may find that having an entire bitch is too inconvenient and have her desexed without telling you or they may just decide that they don't want to part with her when the time comes for her to have a litter. Sure you have a contract in place, but if the bitch is desexed what's the point of it, what's done is done. And do you really want to have the hassle of trying to enforce the contract if things go wrong because there's absolutely no guarantee that you'll win. If you want a bitch to breed from, the best thing is to keep it yourself unless you are absolutely 100% sure that the people taking the bitch will meet all the conditions and uphold their side of the contract. Believe me people will promise anything when they take a puppy, but fulfilling those promises is a different thing entirely and the fact that they've signed a contract is irrelevant. BITCH STAYS FULL STOP....... Have had a lovely bitch desexed before it came time and was never told until I asked how she was going, also had a dog moved on without my knowledge and this lady was supposedly a friend! Keep her there have your litter and then rehome if you want to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hilaryo Posted October 4, 2010 Author Share Posted October 4, 2010 Thanks for your replies. Food for thought. Guess I might have to re-think this as you have mentioned a couple of things I hadn't considered. Oakway, what are you doing in Tasmania? I haven't been on here for quite a while as you can gather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inez Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 (edited) put it this way. trusted 5 people with bitch pups on the agreement i would get a pup back. 3 of em were desexed first heat,........ho they were sooo much trouble.... yet not enough trouble to call me and ask me to board them or make any contactac whatsoever. the last two? died .. snakebite? who knows the last? only waited 5 years to finally get a litter i could have a pup from. the kids loved the first one toooooo much to part with. the second lost all but one and again they sooooo loved it could they keep it. yay this time i get my pup. my advice. keep her one out of five aint great odds Edited October 4, 2010 by inez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lab_Rat Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 Wow - Im utterly amazed that people would do this!! I have had two bitches on Breeders terms................Neither came to fruition for different reasons. However, this decision was made be both the breeder and myself with no dramas on either side. The contract was dissolved and the dogs became our long term pets. I was/am the trusted custodian of these dogs, and had I had any problems with the dog my first port of call was the breeder!!! Which happened quite a few times with the second bitch... :) Im sorry youve had such bad, bad experiences inez! I truly cant understand that people would do this!! Dont these guys have any respect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakway Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 Thanks for your replies. ;) Food for thought. Guess I might have to re-think this as you have mentioned a couple of things I hadn't considered. Oakway, what are you doing in Tasmania? I haven't been on here for quite a while as you can gather. Bloody well freezing Like all old chooks I came home to roost, but I forgot how cold the perch was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercharged Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 I finally discovered that most pet owners simply don't understand or appreciate the work breeders have in breed development........they just think we throw two dogs together and wha la! The perfect pup arrives. Many people will just tell you what they think you want to hear, I now do not trust anyone but me to hold onto a potential show/breeder that I may want to use. It was a sad day my OH said to me you can't trust anyone in this charade......made me wonder where humanity had gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hilaryo Posted October 5, 2010 Author Share Posted October 5, 2010 Thanks for your replies. Food for thought. Guess I might have to re-think this as you have mentioned a couple of things I hadn't considered. Oakway, what are you doing in Tasmania? I haven't been on here for quite a while as you can gather. Bloody well freezing Like all old chooks I came home to roost, but I forgot how cold the perch was. You'll be laughing in Dec/Jan when it's 36 degrees with 80% humidity here in Brisbane! I bet those whippets aren't enjoying it too much at the moment either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakway Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 Thanks for your replies. :D Food for thought. Guess I might have to re-think this as you have mentioned a couple of things I hadn't considered. :D Oakway, what are you doing in Tasmania? I haven't been on here for quite a while as you can gather. Bloody well freezing Like all old chooks I came home to roost, but I forgot how cold the perch was. You'll be laughing in Dec/Jan when it's 36 degrees with 80% humidity here in Brisbane! I bet those whippets aren't enjoying it too much at the moment either :p Wanna bet, we want to come back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullyfan Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 Definately a cause for concern. We prefer to keep our girls but I was considering this option down the track, if the right people came along. My OH always says" you can't trust anyone" and I think he's right. Soooooo we will still hold our girls and hope for the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lappiemum Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 There is also the other side to this coin. Pet people may agree to a breed back arrangement in order to have the puppy they want, but may not realised the inherent dangers that come with breeding - the bitch may become ill, or even die, and they have lost their beloved family pet as a result. Too many things can go wrong and while expereinced breeders know about this ins and outs of things, pet owners are unlikely to. As to breed back contracts, I have heard of some interesting ones! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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