HugUrPup Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 I am babysitting my neighbours 6 month old puppy and she pee's constantly. Is that normal for a puppy that age or is it incontinence? Will desexing help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
becks Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 It can depend on the breed and temperament to some degree. What do you call 'constantly'? Could she have a bladder infection? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HugUrPup Posted February 5, 2011 Author Share Posted February 5, 2011 She pee's every time you touch her, pat her, when she gets excited... She's one of those oodle X's ;) She doesn't seem unwell.. full of beans and wanting to play, no fever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inevitablue Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 Has the pup been socialised? Perhaps she has just lived within their 4 walls, and its just freaking out at new place, new faces, new smells etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HugUrPup Posted February 6, 2011 Author Share Posted February 6, 2011 She used to be an indoor dog, but they couldn't stand mopping up after her every 5 minutes, so she became an outside dog. She is brought up around 2 children (11 and 9) and they take her for walks everyday. She also would go camping with them every weekend, but they decided it would be better to keep her with me this time because of the unpredictable weather. She plays with my dog and other dogs in the street, so is well socialised and looked after very well. It's just this peeing issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tralee Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 She's trying to control her environment by an act of dominance. She needs space and a sense of control. It's just timidity from lack of familiarity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HugUrPup Posted February 6, 2011 Author Share Posted February 6, 2011 She does this at home also.. which is why she is now an outside dog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inevitablue Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 I hope you have tiles! Not sure if it's related, but we had a young 6 month old dog (kelpie x staffy...RSPCA) who did the same thing. Gave her a few weeks to see if it was from being overwhelmed but after a few weeks she was still leaking everywhere. I cannot remember what the tablets were that we gave her but vet said it was for 'leaking girls' not due to old age or whelping. Kept her on them for a few months and then weaned her off them. I know they are commonly prescribed. Wont help you now, but maybe next time your babysitting ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HugUrPup Posted February 6, 2011 Author Share Posted February 6, 2011 Thanks for that Jakemon ;) I do have tiles LOL she is outside except for at night when I put her in the crate. Miley has her nose out of joint because she has to stay outside with her. I'll mention these pills to my neighbour and they will take her to the vet. I am sure they want this issue resolved also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 It is most likely submissive urination... ? My suggestions... IGNORE her as much as possible. NO looming over her... no eye contact/baby/excited talk.... no patting unless she is sitting/standing calmly/walking nicely on lead. ..then brief and under the chin ..then immediately ignore again. You shouldn't need to touch her much.. ? Doesn't she walk/jump without help? and make sure everyone in the house follows the same rules. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inevitablue Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 Hmmmm I just googled, looking for what drug it was, but I think our girl might be a different case because she was desexed. Is this oodle desexed? Found this on all things leaking.... http://www.medi-vet.com/UrinaryIncontinence.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
becks Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 It could be she is just peeing when overexcited, one of my minis did this and by the time she was several months old she had grown out of it. I would refrain from desexing her until this is settled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussielover Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 There is a condition known as juvenile incontinence. It is more common in female puppies. However, this is more like "leaking" rather than actually peeing. You may notice wet bedding or small puddles of urine around the house. You can use propalin syrup to help with incontinence, if that is the problem. I think the first step should be a vet check to make sure the problem isn't medical. If it turns out to be behavoiural, a consult with a behaviourist would be ideal, but obviously the dog isn't yours, so it would be up to the owners to follow up. good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiggD Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 Sounds to me like she needs to be taken to the vet with a urine sample just to be sure when the owners get home and that she needs to be socialised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HugUrPup Posted February 6, 2011 Author Share Posted February 6, 2011 Yep, with so many possibilities, she needs to see the vet. Her owners need to know it isn't normal though.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sallyandtex Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 Hmmmm I just googled, looking for what drug it was, but I think our girl might be a different case because she was desexed. Is this oodle desexed? Found this on all things leaking.... http://www.medi-vet.com/UrinaryIncontinence.html Thanks for that link. Sally 16 months desexed female) does a little wee sometimes when she is asleep (not a major worry). The article says this: Hormone-responsive incontinence occurs in neutered dogs of both sexes and occasionally in spayed female cats but occurs most commonly in female dogs. The pet can urinate normally, but they leak urine while resting. Physical examination and blood and urine tests are usually normal in these pets. Hormone-responsive incontinence can occur months to years after a pet is neutered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mita Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 (edited) It is most likely submissive urination... ? My suggestions... IGNORE her as much as possible. NO looming over her... no eye contact/baby/excited talk.... no patting unless she is sitting/standing calmly/walking nicely on lead. ..then brief and under the chin ..then immediately ignore again. You shouldn't need to touch her much.. ? Doesn't she walk/jump without help? and make sure everyone in the house follows the same rules. Agree about possible submissive urination. Tho' not uncommon in a female puppy for there to be a bladder 'leaking' problem. Worth checking any such physical basis, with the vet. Or as a straight behavioral issue, submissive urination. She's having to adjust to a new environment with you & hasn't a strong sense of confidence around the world of people. So she does 'submissive'. I'll bet my bottom dollar she was not bred & raised in a situation where she was handled by humans & stayed close to humans in everyday life....in her early weeks. The fact that she's an 'oodle' raises questions about her origins. Unregistered breeders selling puppies are far less likely to socialise them around humans (UQ research). While it's understandable that her urination problem has led her present owners to make her an outside dog....that actually takes her further away from learning close, confident contact with humans. Which would make her even more likely to the 'submissive' behaviour. So I'd suggest a help from a well-informed dog behaviorist. Not just a dog trainer. The nature of her problem needs to be understood. Edited February 6, 2011 by mita Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gila Posted February 6, 2011 Share Posted February 6, 2011 Sounds to me like submissive urination. My boy did this all the time when he was younger. It was a combination of submission and excitement for him. He stopped doing it with us, his 'family', fairly early on, but would piddle when other people petted him. He was socialised though, and has always loved people. He was always eager to approach people for a pat, but would roll onto his side and piddle. He grew out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nekhbet Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 She's trying to control her environment by an act of dominance.She needs space and a sense of control. It's just timidity from lack of familiarity. I'm confused can you expand on this? This dog sounds just untrained. It's excited and like most of these mops on legs, pee's itself. Seems to be an oodle trait. Get some attention and start the waterworks. Just ignore her until she settles, then pat a bit if she gets excited ignore her again. Teach her human attention means we play calmly not too excitedly. She used to be an indoor dog, but they couldn't stand mopping up after her every 5 minutes, so she became an outside dog. awesome so instead of fixing the problem they dump it outside. No wonder the dog still exhibits this behaviour. Untrained, unsocialised and stuck in the puppy loop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RosieFT Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 umm... some harsh words there. My parents' have a well bred Bichon from a registered breeder who is a lovely, lovely dog. But she is super submissive and although is 3.5yrs old, still wees alot. Even my parents have to still ignore her when they first come home, or with the first pat she can wee. She is socialised, basic trained, super happy dog that loves to greet you at the door etc but if i then go to pat her too soon, she rolls on her back - usually means she won't pee on her back, but pretty much does it straight afterwards or just before. She is one of those licky licky dogs too, which i believe can be interpreted as a submissive behaviour?? She is not an oodle, has had the same upbringing as the previous 2 bichon's who never did this, but is a very submissive dog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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