Rox333 Posted June 5, 2006 Share Posted June 5, 2006 (edited) Got a staffordshire bull terrier all of about 12 and a half weeks Cute little pup his name is bruiser He is afraid of the spray and wipe bottle and all cleaning agents that make a squirting sound, when i'm ironing the clothes using the spray bottle he goes nuts and starts whimpering, all whilst running in circles. I have tried putting him in one room and leaving him there while i clean but he just makes a racket and attacks everything He follows me everywhere thats my main problem if he didn't follow me i would be right, but I like it having a little mate following me around everywhere Any ideas on how i could stop this? Edited June 7, 2006 by Rox333 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
springdog Posted June 5, 2006 Share Posted June 5, 2006 Hi, I have a Springer that reacts to fireworks, gun shots and loud noises in general, i have spoken to various people regarding his problem and the feedback i have got from them is to ignore his reaction, dont praise him or reasure him, cuddle him as this only tells the dogs that it is right to behave in this way. I have been told to makes noises around him and ignore him, then only time i can praise him is when he doesnt react, so my household is a bit like a madhouse at the moment, i have to go around banging the cupboard doors, popping plastic bags, drop his food bowl, i have been doing this for the last few days and i am starting to see a change in his reactions, they are far less than they used to be and now i am able to start to praise him for not reacting, he is certainly not cured yet but on the path to being cured. Hope this can be of some help for you and the Bruiser Springdog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dog_Horse_Girl Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 He may have been punished or deterred from unwanted behaviour by using a spray bottle to squirt water (or vinegar) at him...this would explain his fear of spray bottles. Many ppl think this type of thing is acceptable to use to stop unwanted behaviours but another unwanted outcome is fear-based behaviours which I think is what you're seeing. What has your breeder said about the problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peibe Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 There is nothing wrong Lillysmum with using a spray bottle as a deterent. As long as it is not abused, a tried and true training method. Normally it only takes 2-3 sprays for the dog to realise, and then picking up the bottle is enough I had a foster dog that was scared of spray bottles, it was the noise they made not the bottle itself. We eventually worked out that the spray bottle sounds like a hissing cat and she was terrified of cats. What springdog said works I would also like to add that the pup is 12 weeks, is following you because he loves you and is a Staffy and that is what they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoemonster Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 (edited) Yup a stafford in the house means you can no longer go into ANY room including and especially the toilet, by yourself whilst they live with you Edited June 6, 2006 by shoemonster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peibe Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 Yup a satfford in the house means you can no longer go into ANY room including and especially the toilet, by yourself whilst they live with you Not just Staffords, Shar Pei are the same. I climbed out the toilet window once after they winged at the door because I would not let them in you should of seen the look on their faces when I walked in the front door All it did was make them worse though, but was good for a laugh :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoemonster Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 OMG peibe that is hilarious!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjosa Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 Frenchies are the same, and in this cold weather they are not ON the bed, but down under the doona, how the hell they breath gets me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rox333 Posted June 7, 2006 Author Share Posted June 7, 2006 (edited) Thanks for all your help. Bruisers a cool dude. Everyone that comes over loves him. He's so cute and he has real attitude...except for when I start using the spray bottle. I have spoken to the breeder, she said that she hadn't used the spray bottle as a deterent. But the cat got in the group of pups one day and started hissin and Bruiser got a frieght. So thats Bruisers problem just like your foster dog Peibe. Guess I will just do some excessive cleaning with the spray bottles and get him used to it. Thanks for your help Oh and Bruiser said HI EVERYONE! Edited June 7, 2006 by Rox333 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peibe Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 Glad I was able to help, took us 2 months to work out what her problem was. I carried a spray bottle on my belt and just squirted it when we were walking and playing and whenever I was near her. It worked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animalsluvbree Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 hi all, its been awhile since i have been on here, anyway im not sure if anyone has suggested this but: try to pair the noise with something that the pup loves, like food... so get the family to help to make it easier and get some really yummy food like bbq chicken and make the noise and at first just give him the food for staying there, you will start shaping his behaviour as he gets braver. So then when u think he is comfortable sitting there with the noise, start increasing the bar of what you want him to do, so he has to remain sitting while the noises go off... do you see what im kinda getting at.... to us the noise is nothing but to a little puppy it could be the end of the world and locking him in the room wil only worsen his fear, so you need to teach him that it wont hurt him, in fact its a great noise to be around as he gets bbq chicken or salami... hope this helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alison1474 Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 Think of this in a positive way - Your house is going to be spotless after all of this excess cleaning ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dog_Horse_Girl Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 There is nothing wrong Lillysmum with using a spray bottle as a deterent. As long as it is not abused, a tried and true training method. Normally it only takes 2-3 sprays for the dog to realise, and then picking up the bottle is enoughI had a foster dog that was scared of spray bottles, it was the noise they made not the bottle itself. We eventually worked out that the spray bottle sounds like a hissing cat and she was terrified of cats. What springdog said works I would also like to add that the pup is 12 weeks, is following you because he loves you and is a Staffy and that is what they do. I didn't say there was anything wrong with using a spray bottle as a deterrent Peibe. I put forth a possible reason for the pup's behavoiur b/c I know many ppl use the spray bottle method to assist in training their dogs and especially pups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReXy Posted June 9, 2006 Share Posted June 9, 2006 Thanks for all your help. Bruisers a cool dude. Everyone that comes over loves him. He's so cute and he has real attitude...except for when I start using the spray bottle. I have spoken to the breeder, she said that she hadn't used the spray bottle as a deterent. But the cat got in the group of pups one day and started hissin and Bruiser got a frieght. So thats Bruisers problem just like your foster dog Peibe. Guess I will just do some excessive cleaning with the spray bottles and get him used to it.Thanks for your help Oh and Bruiser said HI EVERYONE! great that you found the reason makes sence.... hi bruiser... tell mummy we neeeeedddd pics... i have a 10 week old staffy pup hes my little shaddow and i love it... the best thing i ever thought about was crate training..lol gives both him and me some time without him under my feet... lol altho i love it.. sometimes i need to do things without him stuck to me..lol , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peibe Posted June 11, 2006 Share Posted June 11, 2006 He may have been punished or deterred from unwanted behaviour by using a spray bottle to squirt water (or vinegar) at him...this would explain his fear of spray bottles. Many ppl think this type of thing is acceptable to use to stop unwanted behaviours but another unwanted outcome is fear-based behaviours which I think is what you're seeing. What has your breeder said about the problem? Quote "Many ppl think this type of thing is acceptable" That makes me think you think it is not acceptable behavior I must have misread you How is the puppy fear going? Getting any better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dog_Horse_Girl Posted June 12, 2006 Share Posted June 12, 2006 Peibe just so you and everyone else here knows, I don't disagree with the spray bottle method. Put another way, I have no problems with it as a training tool. Just b/c I don't happen to use it on my own dogs, having never seen the need, doesn't mean I am against it. IMO it's a far kinder way to deter a dog from something than, say, belting the dog. And if I felt that one of my own dogs or a foster needed that type of training, believe me I would not hesitate in using it. I just wouldn't use vinegar and I would aim for the dog's rump rather than the front end...JMO. Perhaps you could stop trying to put words in the mouths of others? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeiLuvR Posted June 12, 2006 Share Posted June 12, 2006 Hey Lilysmum i don't think peibe was putting words in anyones mouth... they clearly came out of yours in the first place. Sorry didn't mean to gang up but felt the need to be heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peibe Posted June 13, 2006 Share Posted June 13, 2006 (edited) Peibe just so you and everyone else here knows, I don't disagree with the spray bottle method. Put another way, I have no problems with it as a training tool. Just b/c I don't happen to use it on my own dogs, having never seen the need, doesn't mean I am against it. IMO it's a far kinder way to deter a dog from something than, say, belting the dog. And if I felt that one of my own dogs or a foster needed that type of training, believe me I would not hesitate in using it. I just wouldn't use vinegar and I would aim for the dog's rump rather than the front end...JMO. Perhaps you could stop trying to put words in the mouths of others? WTF? sorry for thread hijack here One: I would never use vinegar Two, nothing wrong with a good squirt on the dog, anywhere to stop untoward behaviour Three: When you can have 10 plus foster dogs, training is not always easy and a quick method is used ie spray bottle I aint trying to put words in anyones mouth, you just seem to have an opinion on EVERYTHING and you always act high and mighty like you are SO right. Get over it, public forum, different opinions, go jump ETA quote stuffed up Edited June 13, 2006 by peibe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrunoBella Posted June 13, 2006 Share Posted June 13, 2006 Peibe Agree wholeheartedly. The spray bottle is the best tool I have found, particularly for house training. It stops me from getting impatient and gets the message across when you haven't worked out words yet for new pups. I sprayed Bruno once when he picked up a shoe and now he leaves them alone (while I'm watching!). Telling him "No" does not have this same affect. Perhaps you could stop trying to put words in the mouths of others? Lillysmum Peibe is not putting words into the mouths of others. She is reading exactly what is said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dog_Horse_Girl Posted June 13, 2006 Share Posted June 13, 2006 Oh, really? Then I wonder how she incorrectly drew the conclusion that I disapprove of using a spray bottle in training a dog or pup? I wonder where I said that, b/c I can't find it anywhere...am I looking in the wrong place? :D Probably not, it's probably just a case of someone thinking they've read something that I haven't posted. *shrug* As an aside, some ppl here have said they use vinegar and water in the spray bottle, and I don't think that was peibe. Nor did I say that peibe used vinegar in *her* spray bottle b/c I didn't assume she uses one. I try to respond to what ppl post, not what I *think* they've posted. I think there's a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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