Kirislin

job well done, look at that satisfied look on his face. :laugh: NEXT!

Pity you cant shoot the bunnies and sell them. they're really expensive in the city. $16 each here.

take camera tomorrow morning. :D

these were taken just sitting down on the ground. I used to lie belly down to get shots and then didn't do it for years. The day I took these I decided to try it again and a whole pack of whippets crashed into me. Bent a finger backwards and it's still hurting, smacked my camera into my face and it's still sore, made the camera stop working for a while, I got it going again but hope it doesn't go blank again, hurt a whippet that ran screaming off back to his daddy, so I decided to go back to sitting again. :laugh:

I've even seen GSDs being used to portray wolves. Funny! :laugh:

Yes, he was really very tall and long. I told her about our whippet fun days so she might come along next year, I'd love to get some shots of him running.

It was just the DNA I was referring to, it sounded like a more involved procedure than normal.

His owner told me they're not recognised in Australia

No sorry, I dont. She must really love him to go to all that expense for a pet because I got the impression it cost alot more than it normally would to import a dog.

At the Twilight show at KCC last night. Very big, very chilled out dog. Only 4 in Australia, all males. Talked to the owner for a while, it was very difficult, and I assume very expensive to bring him out. DNA tested to prove there's no wolf blood in him. His name is Rook. I'm not interested in the arguments about these dogs, I'm just posting for interest sake because not many of us will have seen a dog like this other than in photos. He's a handsome fella isn't he. 5F6A4588dppt by kirislin, on Flickr 5F6A4590dppt by kirislin, on Flickr

Amateur whippet racing has been going on for many decades, I dont think it's going to become professional.

ooh yes, it's actually having a bit of a resurgence now that whippets are becoming more popular again and of course because of the internet, word travels easier and wider so lots of people are finding out about it. Probably will never get to the days in the 20's and 30's when they had midweek night races with the results printed in the paper, but then it was probably not just pet people like it is now.

Fabulous resource is the whippet archives, and it just gets better and better as colour recording is becoming more accurate, but it shows how easily colours are written down and they're clearly wrong. This is a perfect example, look at this bitch, still recorded as white, but but at least in the distinguishing features they've explained that she's actually cream. All the cream ancestors are recorded as white. See how easy it would have been to miss a colour when standards were written, so now when it appears to just pop up people are saying it's a cross bred. http://thewhippetarchives.net/details.php?id=107629

How do you kill them?

I wonder why we haven't got cream whippets in the pedigree lines here. I've seen them here in the non ped lines, and they're in Europe and the US. I think they must have been in them here once, and we've lost them. If I ever won Tatts I'd import some. Another colour I've only seen twice here is a beautiful dilute, I suppose it would have to be listed as fawn, but it's more of a lilac or mauve with an incredible metallic sheen. Again, they were both non ped whippets, but definitely all whippet. Now I mostly see brindles and brindle partis, and many of them are really big, with great long necks on them like horses. They dont look much like the breed that I fell in love with 30 or more years ago.

have a look at this page. I think the example of a seal whippet looks like it might actually be an IG. http://runswiftwhippets.net/Genetics/Unusual.html#anchor5480 Oh and as I understand it if we get a seal IG now we have to call it BLACK even though they are most likely a very heavily sabled fawn, that's my own theory.

I found some funny clips in Qld. It looks like the lure's got wheels!

Cream is not listed as a colour option on the Greyhound database. I've seen some very, very pale fawns. As has been said before what colour a dog is registered as may be different to what they actually are. Yep, that's what I'm thinking.

It's really fascinating, (even though I dont understand most of it. )

My favourite whippet colour page too, but I suspect it's out of date now. Are whippet and greyhound colour genetics identical, or just very similar? I've never seen a cream greyhound. Do they exist?

I've seen the liver noses in Italian Greyhounds too, but never seen a dun coloured dog although the ones with liver noses are an unusual colour, sort of orangy but probably recorded as fawn because of the limited descriptions allowed. So many of the breed standards need better descriptions regarding colour, just because it doesn't say it in the standard doesn't mean it doesn't exist or in some cases, the reverse, it might be described in the standard but in fact it doesn't exist, for example, the SBT standard describes solid black, but as far as I know all SBTs that appear black are actually brindle.

Is cream a dilute of liver because I've seen cream whippets. I've no idea how dun/liver got into the breed perhaps it has been there all along and just incorrectly recorded.

Sable is at the bottom of the K hierarchy (K, kbr, k). "Red" in greyhounds is sable so it's actually a sable to sable mating, which should NEVER produce black because both dogs should be kk. As for the colour originating in Australia, I'd call bullshit on that also. Premier Fantasy's sire was Irish. His pedigree is mostly Irish dogs (with a few US dogs) until it gets back to the 1890s where it was UK dogs, until records runs out in 1820. I'd be very interested in seeing what information the author drew her conclusions from. I wondered about that too.

Oh wow! I didn't know what country those dogs were in. Do you know if this colour is passed down through certain lines? Was it just one puppy in the litter or several with this colour?

Oh wow! They look like little snowstorms! I love the snow flake colour I wonder how they get around registering that colour cause it's not listed in the standard.