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Amen to that. And bless Denise from PAWS. She and her team are exceptional in how they deal with smaller breeds. Even tho' I'm in Q'ld, I support PAWS any way I can.

.... yes, and pet buyers will develop preferences, too. And make their choices. I like going to the mainly show breeders who will retire their dogs. No.... not because I'm saying they're better. But I prefer what comes with that. The dogs have benefitted from the social aspects of being shown & transported & handled/exposed to strangers. Among other things. Others will make other choices. Like starting with a puppy... BUT I had to learn where to go to find breeders like that.... Dogzonline is a great starting point. So is going to dog shows. The OP made the point that many members of the public haven't yet learned where to start finding a purebred.... which was her reason for asking people to consider going where the pet buying public tend to go. So that's still a good debatable issue.... how to get access to purebreds closer to the general pet-buying public. I wish Dogzonline could get a PR profile as widespread as PetRescue (or close to!) :) All the pet people I've referred to Dogzonline have been thrilled pink to find such a resource.

Registered breeders are adults so they can, as individuals, figure out what's in the best interests of their dogs & breed... & do it. There's no rule that says each one has to do exactly the same thing. Breeders who largely show & breed for show purposes, have puppies they consider pet quality... or believe in retiring their show dogs to pet homes. So finding pet homes even comes in at that level. Others may place more emphasis on, generally, placing their puppies in pet homes. That often goes along with an appreciation of the kind of joys/interests/challenges that the breed traits bring to a matching pet home. As to means for finding the pet homes.... which was what the OP was about. Again, it's up to individual choice. If a registered breeder doesn't want to advertise alongside unregistered breeders in places like newspapers & internet sale places.... that's their choice. If another doesn't agree with that.... fine, but respect the right to choose. I have no problem with someone who does advertise like that, asking those who don't, to consider some possible benefits. And adding suggestions how to word ads with a clear clue that purebred breeding is different. No problem, either, with those who wouldn't advertise like that, saying why. And asking that those reasons be considered, equally. If another doesn't agree ... again, fine. But respect the right to choose.

The lady in the video said Fennec foxes have been bred in the USA since the 1970s; Made me curious to see what a breeder would be like. Found this one in California. She mentions hers going to zoos but also seems to supply a pet market. http://www.exoticendeavors.com/fennec_foxes.html

You Tube presentation by US lady who's giving expert advice on how the Fennec fox shapes up as a pet (seems allowed as an 'exotic pet' in some places). Adds up, IMO, why it's not a good idea for either a little creature that's hardwired for living in the wild.... nor for the people trying to make it otherwise. She's associated with an exotic pets sanctuary so she'd be speaking from experience:

Thanks for this info.

I appreciate the time you took to reply. So no apology needed for length. I just popped online while lunch is cooking, but will come back later to read it properly. :)

Ams, I've deleted both my responses to you. Just left my original post about need to clarify which RSPCA because of the different State laws & legal processes.

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The OP asks for a general opinion of the 'RSPCA'. Only to be told that there are different policies in different states. Then cites a particular case.... that appears to be in Victoria. One that happened to a neighbour so the information which even tho' seeming detailed, is coming second-hand. And from one side only of the dispute. Lord knows how it's expected that the case would be judicially reviewed on an internet forum. But, if the neighbour believes the decisions by RSPCA Victoria were unfair or unjust, good advice has been given about checking with a solicitor who specialises in animal law cases. If the case were Qld.... which it's not... the avenues for appeal are written into the law under which RSPCA Qld operates. There's an independent civil & administrative review tribunal... even cites animal management issues top of its list of matters handled (probably the luck of the draw).

But isn't it the same for all dogs? Given how some dogs of all breeds & mixes, are badly bred, unsocialised, poorly trained (if at all), then inadequately managed & contained ... by people. There'd be no surprise that some greyhounds would be included in that scarey scenario. What needs to be laid down are clear standards about what breeders/trainers/owners ought to do.

I think Teddy's beautiful, too. A very fine dog with the loveliest expression in his eyes. His personality shines thro'. His new owner has good taste!

I notice you're in Qld. Consider having a chat to the good people who run Rhodesian Ridgeback Rescue Qld. Happens to be a favourite Facebook page of mine! Those folk are very good in establishing the type of home that a particular Ridgie would best fit. Making a good 'fit' benefits everyone all round.... new owners & the dog: https://www.facebook.com/RhodesianRidgebackRescueQld

Before getting on to what dog to get from where... it's necessary to unpick the claim (in the OP) that registered breeders of purebreds are responsible for an 'over-population' of dogs which spills into large numbers of dogs needing adoption from shelters/rescues/pounds. There's not reliable statistics kept on where dogs dumped actually come from. But there are research findings which can be put together as evidence that dogs coming from registered breeders are less likely to be dumped. If that's so, then dogs being bred & raised by registered breeders, actually helps in preventing dogs being dumped. There's evidence that registered breeders tend to socialise their dogs/puppies better, so they're less likely to develop the kinds of problems that can get dogs dumped. And that they have more control over litter numbers. Also there's evidence that dogs coming from breeders who work in a home style way, tend to have less of the problems that lead to dumping. 'Home-style' is the kind of model many 'hobby' registered breeders work in. They do not keep/raise dogs in commercial scale numbers & in a completely non-home style setting. Some may do so, but it's not a significant majority. So registered breeders are more likely to socialise dogs well... & are more likely to work in a more 'home style' evironment which supports that. Of course that doesn't apply to every single registered breeder.... but the the behaviours which lead to less dumping are more likely (but not exclusively) to be found with that group. Which means the generalisation being shunted around that registered breeders, as a group, are mainly responsible for large numbers of dogs in pounds/shelters/rescue groups, doesn't stand up to what evidence we have. So, as for adoption... BOTH means of adoption can help dogs. Adopt from a registered breeder who follows the best 'model' for dogs' development.... & you're helping prevent dumping. Adopt from a shelter/pound/rescue group ... & you're helping those dogs who fall between the cracks or who've had a totally different start to life. With good research & being doggie-wise, you can find your heart dogs with BOTH.

That is beautiful. After that lady's rescue greyhound, Jack, developed his confidence .... he sounds exactly like the well-cared for racing greys who lived next door. These dogs are a truly beautiful breed to live beside humans. We miss our ex-neighbour greys terribly. Their owner believed that ultimately his dogs would be retired as companion pets. So from the time his puppies were born, he'd socialize them well. He'd use our small dogs & borrow grandchildren to play with them. And he'd manage/supervise his dogs securely. In the entire 20 years, there was never a bad incident with one of his dogs, even tho' we & our neighbours owned small dogs & cats. And of course, there were children, too. I hope the lady's submission. inspires action to take the best of care of greyhounds & not just regard them as disposable 'stuff' for racing.

Danny our rescue sheltie used to do that. It gradually decreased. Then, the only time he'd do it, would drive the cat mad. He had a strong work ethic inside his sweet personality. He'd try to do 'working sheepdog' with the cat. Puss didn't have a clue exactly what he wanted her to do.... so she'd just sit & meow at him. Danny didn't have a clue either ... so he'd go around in a few circles to fill up the uncertainty space. Georgia should get a Teacher of the Year Award. :)

Google italian greyhound service dog... Thanks. A couple of people have pm'd me the info. After seeing a large pic of said person that nearly blinded me it's all probably more than I ever needed to know. Sounds like you might need a service dog now. Maybe you could get some tips from said person. :)

Hankdog, I was just reading about that, somewhere. There are times when preventing escalation is the wisest thing to do. Owners have to make a judgement call, based on their knowledge of their own dog.

You are not wrong. The code legitimizes commercially profitable bulk breeding ... & largely ignores what's required to develop sound companion dogs. What do they think they're 'producing' .... furry toys?

That was my impression, too, reading the Victorian draft laws about dog breeding establishments. The guidelines actually legitimized bulk breeding practices .... like they were supporting a business model, rather than a welfare model. I was gobsmacked to see a research paper contained in their References, where the findings contradicted the inadequate socialization guidelines in the laws themselves. Talk about the right hand not knowing what the left hand is doing.

The head of a Damci pictured on a Bhutanese stamp. Note the slightly longer muzzle. Click to enlarge. Now the head of my Tibetan Spaniel girl (p/b & Aus Ch) that breeder said was a bit like the 'old type'.. Note the bit similar muzzle. Last a p/b Tibbie boy from the same kennels as my girl. Note the subtle difference with his muzzle. He has the same kind of look my other p/b tibs have had. Click enlarge: None of those, of course, show body size.

Now that's interesting, because I've heard a knowledgeable breeder refer to one of my tibbie girls, as closer to the 'old style'. She's a purebred & an Aus Ch but doesn't have the more snubbed snout like the other tibbie girls here. And, while not being over-big (like Zou Chai), she's bigger (& longer) than the more 'toy' like others. She's the one that strangers guessing her breed, have jokingly said, looks like a shrunk golden retriever. Whereas strangers guess 'some kind of peke' for the other girls. Marion, you might be right. There was likely interchange, anyway, between the Damchi & the Tibetan Spaniel, so genetic associations might well be in some of the lines ...

Yes, wasn't Andrea who's connected with that rescue group... here on DOL? Over a number of years, I've had some dealings regarding some tibbies they've had. Found it an excellent rescue.

Please take a pic of this lovely moment, too!!!! Antionette... & the staff ... will be thrilled. BTW when they did research showing the the positive effects therapy dogs have on patients, they found something else. The dogs bring positive benefits to the staff as well. I love the way you describe Dezzy being so warmly welcomed by the staff. :)