mita

Wow! She's beautiful. Her coat's now shining like satin.

He's absolutely beautiful. I hope he's found soon. I'll send this down to my breed's club in Victoria so they can pass on to their members.

Pets must be fault-free??? What's the magic ingredient which allows that to happen? Quickly, pass it over to human medicine. Parents having babies would be so grateful. An article like that is not just useless in providing information to the pet-buying public. It's providing misinformation. Espinay is right. Even when a breeder does everything humanly possible to set their puppies up for the best health possible.... it can only reduce risk. No such thing as 'no risk' for a living creature.

The photos are great. They pulled me in, making me want to read all about her. It's the kind of flyer I'd be happy to ask people to put on bulletin boards. It does Zippy proud & does rescue proud, too.

[quote name='Tibbie_tabbie' timestamp='1379476519' post='6302093 I've warned him that when we get somewhere with more land I will be getting a pride of tibbies (not pack - pride ; p) Tibbies say a pride of tibbies. But tibbie owners say an attitude of tibbies. :) Here's your pride being cared for... until you're ready. Click.

Thanks, bertie. Safe in the hands of Denise at PAWS. Didn't they do a great job, 'dressing' him for his formal pic!

Have you got Microsoft Office? I right click the file, select 'Open With' then 'Microsoft Office', then 'Edit Pictures' then 'Compress' then 'For Documents' usually brings it down far enough. If you haven't, or that was too confusing, PM me & I will give you my email addy & do it for you. Thanks, bertie. I'll PM you. BTW Pic was OK for the Tibbie Pets list. And you should see the rave comments flowing in. :)

As promised, Denise sent a pic of the red/white tibbie she's rescued from Renbury. Bathed, groomed & dressed for his official photo. He's so cute. I can't upload it, tho'! Keeps saying file too big.

That's fantastic! So she's safe, too. It's been a good week for tibbies.

Doesn't she just. I'm forever directing people to the PAWS website. It's everything good rescue should be. Seems the red/white boy has been bathed & groomed, and now getting his vet work done. Denise promises some up-date photos. She may also have happy news, already, about the pretty white/cream girl.

Good news for these two, tho'. Both are now safe with Denise at PAWS. Seems the red/white boy has a lovely nature: It's Tibbie Time in NSW at the moment. PAWS have a pretty , cream/white 11 yr old, Babe, surrendered from an elderly couple. Sure looks p/b & looks very young for age. And the sweet-faced red/white Tibbie boy at Renbury will also be going into rescue.

Thanks, kayla. Followed it up & found this below. It's getting close to describing what's wanted in breeding/raising puppies. So good for OL. But it could be improved with some sharper detail, pointing out that there's good evidence to guide a puppy buyer's research. Like , socialization is not mentioned at all. And also adding to the summary guidelines on the OL Home Page ... where most people look. Something about 'good' breeding/raising practice needs to be mentioned there. What is the difference between a registered breeder and a puppy factory (and how will I know)? A registered breeder is registered with their State organisation such as Dogs Victoria. However, just because a breeder is registered does not necessarily mean they're ethical. A puppy factory is not registered with any organisation. Many claim to be registered, but they are in fact just a ‘registered’ business! An ethical breeder will be happy for you to visit them to meet the parents and the pups at their own premises, in fact most will insist. Puppy factories will not. Even puppy factories who meet the legal requirements of minimum standards of care will not let you see their breeding facilities - they know that you will be horrified. We encourage you to do your own thorough research before buying a puppy - inspect the breeder's facilities, breeding dogs and puppies yourself. Ask for testimonials of previous buyers and what 'after purchase' follow-up the breeder offers. A breeder will know about their breed, they will be happy to answer your questions and are very likely to have plenty of their own. The RSPCA Victoria have developed the Smart puppy buyers guide to further assist you in ensuring you are not supporting puppy factories.

Yes, I've always interpreted 'adopt' as covering bringing into your family either a rescue/shelter dog or a p/b from registered breeder. But seems many don't. Breeders are out! The second slogan is plain silly. Has no idea of preventing dogs getting into shelters. There's evidence that best option for puppies is to be born to a small scale home-style breeder who socializes their dogs/puppies well. Less likely to be later 'dumped'. This tends to be the way most registered breeders work (not all, of course). It's that notion that I'd like to see Oscar's Law pick up. I agree with their opposition to commercial size puppy farming. Especially when there are poor conditions. And very much because of the lack of socialization. But it's not just enough to say...'that's what's not wanted.' They should point to the kind of breeding/raising conditions which are wanted. How on earth will there continue to be dogs to adopt.... at all? Logically, the two 'worlds' of dogs, rescue and responsible breeding, complement each other. Awful, as you say, to see divisions.

Only a little bit of your post quoted, Mita, because the rose coloured glasses bit is spot on and the other? Well I'm glad you said "generally" because there were huge problems in society that were hidden and not discussed. Definitely better times for dogs though. DD, I'm going off topic (apologies). But wanted to say I thoroughly agree with you. Our rose-coloured glasses for the past make us believe because everything was simpler back then... & so was a better way to live. You're right, so many things were 'hidden' beneath the simplicity. Even just start with the position of women. And lots more, too.

Very much an area which has either youngish families or retired people. It's an older suburb being 'reborn'. And the younger families tend to be very trendy active people .... so the walking tracks thro' the parks are well used. So lot of labradors around, and some border collies. Also what look like handsome purebred staffies. All well cared for. Then the older people tend to have smaller breeds. Some pugs, Maltese, cavaliers. I've noticed that the older people have the cavaliers, rather than the families.

Yes. Size and breed of dog have nothing to do with it. Not mentioned in the by-law at all. Just says 'dogs'. Making it particularly easy to understand. As well as generally applicable to all dogs. A neat piece of problem-solving, too. When an off-leash dog, in a leash-required public place does something particularly horrendous & even maybe tragic.... then the question is 'What could have been done to prevent the problem?' So.... easy to understand, does not discriminate among dogs, & prevents problems. The whole trifecta.

Another voice of sweet reason. :) Giving a realistic view of what it's like for some people. And providing a very good reason for why there's a council by-law about leashed dogs in designated public areas.

The voice of sweet reason. And you've rightly said that, for you, 'fear has nothing to do with it'. While for those who've had one or more particularly bad experiences in the past, there may be the triggering of a fear response. It's automatic. The fear sensation comes before the thinking processes kick in. And specially bad experiences were the theme of this thread.

Oh dear. You were not around our place. Peter the Border Collie ruled supreme at our end of the street. And Pat, another Border Collie, ruled the other end of the street. God help any dog who trotted by on either of their footpaths. None were on leads.... dogs took themselves for walks. Poor dogs never knew what hit them. Peter's style was to fly thro' the hedge & flatten them at high speed. Our Mad Maltese, Pauline, would start things off. By popping thro' the hedge & shrieking at the passing dog.... like she was being attacked. Just as the dog was wondering where this mad woman had come from.... Peter would come flying thro'. Today.... we, along with Peter & the Crazy Pauline, would be marched straight to jail. And deservedly so. That was no world for the gentle, sensitive tibbies & shelties that we own today. :) Tho' one tibbie, named Angel, beat up a fat Corgi who growled at her when she went to have some water at a Blessing of the Pets. That's right, dear readers, she was not on a leash. Proving even angels might do it. :)

MP, this is a joke.... not having a go at you. Looks like the newly arrived ranger might've been lurking behind trees, hissing 'Sitch-em!' to the dogs in your town. :)

Actually I think you're spot on, T, for the purposes of this thread.

I'm a bit speechless myself! So over to the bloke that's developed it, with his stern word to prospective pet buyers Do your HOMEWORK before you decide on a pet Consult your "EXPERT" before you buy ASK us about the pet you want as We have the TIME for you We RECOMMEND the petfood & products for your consideration Pets are not TOYS, pets are NOT made, pets are BORN We sell you a LOVING pet for you to love and care for A pet that gives you unconditional LOVE A pet is not an ASSET to be disposed as you like Pets are NOT for X'mas and gifts Having a pet is not about WHO you are How much MONEY or LAND you have It is about your TIME, LOVE, COMMITMENT & RESPONSIBILITY Before you buy, the pet is mine After the sale, the pet is yours for Life!!!!

Who's said they don't want their dogs interacting with others? Yes, you did say only 'some'. :) I posted earlier that I welcomed the opportunity to gently socialise the dogs with those of other reasonable people we met on our walks (in an on-leash by-law area). We tend to look at the past with rose-coloured glasses. Our own dogs way back then.... kelpie-types & border collies .... had a pretty free rein. With results that didn't worry people too much then, but would now! Life generally was much simpler.... which is your point. Now populations are greater, denser urban living, even a wider range of dog types, lifestyle habits are different (dogs took themselves for a walk!). Changing times & conditions. So different rules to live by.

Sheer accident. Googling 'puppy farms Singapore.' This one example, came up. I'm not suggesting it's the standard!!! It sure deals in animals in commercially viable numbers. They also provide dog boarding & host 'pet parties'. Doesn't say where the puppies/kittens are sourced from. http://www.ericssonpetfarm.com/

I said it's reasonable to investigate if there's any connections between unsold Australian-imported puppies & Singaporean puppy farms. In other words, provide some evidence if it's so. Can't just say there is. The Singaporean authorities certainly have comprehensive and stringent conditions around the importing of puppies. As you said, Steve. The AVA has one page on Pets- Personal. There's another on Pets -Commercial. http://www.ava.gov.sg/AnimalsPetSector/ImportExportTransOfAnimalRelatedPrd/PetsPersonal/