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most places make sure they are going to be the right home. We rescued 2 bitsa's from RSPCA and a rescue organisation and they asked alot of questions. But maybe there are some organisations that don't check enough but hopefully they are few and far between. also the golden rescue had a number of forms to fill out. my brother felt like he said, he was going for an exam of some sort.

i'd have to agree with what some are saying and that is that it is much more personal if you ring the breeder or meet them in person at a show and give your name. With us we know a person is serious when they give their name and tell us a bit about themselves. We play it by ear, usually getting a feel for the kind of person they are, most of the time we have been spot on with a few exceptions, but even the exceptions they have not been a really bad owner though. My brother owns goldens and he was not after a puppy but an adult and he had to wait a while for an adult as it is a popular breed Goldens. then he put his name down with the rescue and got a male desexed alongside his desexed female. I found the female from here on DOL forums not in DOL breeders area. but he wanted to go to a petshop as he was just looking for the breed and at that stage didn't know whether he wanted a puppy or an adult so i guided him a bit, i said, if you get a petshop puppy I'll kill you. lol that seemed to do the trick. lol lol i get so many emails with the words looking for a puppy, no name no taking the time to introduce themselves, so i consider that rude too. its a two way street i don't know how many rude enquirers i've had. I always take the time to answer them back and also if they give me more information and are genuine i will help them as i feel it is my duty to create good PR for us pedigree breeders. lord knows we need it after all the negative media coverage in the last few years. I've met quite a few people at dog shows just the public wanting to take a look and learn, so i've been quite happy to help and all the while creating good PR, i invite people to come along, and encourage people to contact their states' breed club too. just my two cents worth.

link Pasco County, FL - Backyard breeders and puppy mill types of operations are going to have a harder time conducting business in Pasco County. According to TBO.com, county commissions are working to over-haul animal control ordinances. The proposed changes will be voted on tomorrow. Commissioners hope to ban the sale of puppies at flea markets, festivals and in parking lots - popular venues for backyard breeders. The ordinance will also put a clear definition on what constitutes a "breeder". If the ordinance passes, anyone who breeds two litters or 20 puppies per year will be called a "breeder". Breeders will be forced to obtain permits and pass yearly inspections. If a breeder fails to pass an inspection, they may have to surrender ownership of their animals. Breeders will also have to maintain one year of detailed records on animals which they sell. The commissioners are not singling out just breeders. The new ordinance also contains language which will make the outdoor tethering of a dog illegal. Ordinances such as those proposed by Pasco County give greater power to law enforcement. If laws are not in place when an inhumane breeder operation is uncovered - there is little action that authorities can take. If the new ordinance passes this week, the new rules will take effect after the first of the year. The proposed changes are an excellent step in the right direction - hopefully other counties will take notice and follow suit. Continue reading on Examiner.com Florida county to crack down on breeders - National Dogs | Examiner.com http://www.examiner.com/dogs-in-national/florida-county-to-crack-down-on-breeders?CID=examiner_alerts_article#ixzz1fjsdwxWs

no i said the puppy is about 3 or 4 weeks old in that photo, look at its eyes they are closed and also the umbilical cord is still visable they drop off around that age and at 8 weeks its not that visible. i've bred toy dogs for around 30 years so i know what im looking at there. where is that info that the picture is a week old? they said that the PM has picked up her puppy or rather tim has. as it is now 8 weeks old. thats not an 8 week old pup.

hmmm funny, that is a 3 or 4 week old puppy definately not an 8 week old pup, don't they have any more recent photos.

do what i did to my brother, i picked out a dog for him and then pretty much promoted her to him, he was looking at petshop puppies but i managed to get in first before he found something to buy. you could try to look find something like a young dog in rescue or even the breed rescue, if that breed has a rescue? don't know.....then tell her all about the dog and get her connected with it even offer to drive her there and see the puppy/dog. once they see the dog/pup sometimes thats when the connection starts. worth a try. i do see where you are coming from and it is frustrating sometimes you have to not listen. the friend at work was going to BYB her aussie bulldog no matter what. and it really peeved me off but at the end of the day i still had to work with her and be friends with her so i just had to forget about the dogs. and realise there is nothing you can do, people are going to do what they want to do and there's nothing you can do to stop it.

a friend at work bred her aussie bulldog bitch to mature her. as far as i could see she was a sensible dog in the first place didn't need to have a litter of pups to make her even more sensible. the male dog however is nuts they have, he has been used at stud several times but i don't see that its matured him. they mature anyway in time as they get older. its just a ridiculous excuse to make some money is my point of view. then she announced that she is getting the bitch desexed because its too much work to rear litter of pups much to my relief. but they still let the male out for stud, eventhough he had to get his eyes stitched up because he had eyelids that drooped too much. and it was passed on by the sire.

i did get the new car and that is now covered in hair too!!!!!

I very much agree. if i was a new puppy owner/buyer these days i'd be totally confused with all the conflicting information out there on tele and on the internet. chris brown and others like him are just learning really, and are not in a position to advise the puppy buying public. All the written information that's being thrown about like from RSPCA, oscar law and govt pet information all points to buying from a "registered breeder" but as steve said these days that could mean anything. Domestic pet breeding businesses are registered, APDBA is a new registered organisation designed for a person to breed anything and be "registered". Then there's people that have applied to their local councils to be "registered" so they all need to define what they mean by buying from a "registered" breeder. They haven't really said. whether that means putting ANKC infront of registered and telling them this as i did to the head of oscar law on her info and i noticed she did change a few things after i told her some home truths. again its all about promotion and yes, i agree someone does need to have a chat with chris brown and let him know a few home truths about breeding showing pedigree dogs as i don't think he knows much at all judging from some of the statements on his show. he also is in womans weekly? with a column and about 2 years ago he said the most ridiculous thing to a new puppy owner which wouldn't've worked so i emailed him and told him so he was advising the person to get an oodle as a perfect apartment dog. so i said what about a purebred chi, pap or toy breed rather than promoting BYB and puppy farms. after that he changed his tune. went on a search recently to see if i could email him again and he has removed his email addy. might still be on that article he writes. but i decided i would write to him in his veterinary practice. these ppl need to be told i believe JMHO

Chris Brown makes a plea for puppies Dr Chris Brown calls for a ban on the sale of factory-bred puppies in pet shops, classified adverts and online. Picture: Supplied. Supplied >>IT'S absurd, a nation that considers dog to be man's best friend doesn't even know where its puppies come from. Puppies are an emotive thing - everyone sees a cute little creature - but the reality is, so many start life in the inhumane and horrific surroundings of a puppy factory. >>While doing a report for The 7pm Project, I met Oscar’s Law campaigner Debra Tranter. She’d rescued dogs from a puppy factory and they were in a bad way. They were filthy, their teeth and ears hadn’t been looked after, and one had mammary cancer. They’d been treated like commodities and hadn’t been given any respect. Even if you’re not an animal person, you’d be disturbed by the images coming out of these factories. >>You can walk into a supermarket and tell if an egg came from a barn or cage, but there’s no way of knowing where a puppy comes from. There’s an issue with defining ‘puppy factories’. How can you tell the difference between a factory and a breeder with a lot of dogs? Someone needs to take responsibility for regulation. >>It all starts with the government changing the law. We need a system that says, if you sell animals, you must provide details of the breeder, who must go through a rigorous process to ensure their practices are humane. Until we have such a system, questions must be asked about whether pet shops should be selling puppies at all. >>If you can’t be sure where a puppy came from, don’t buy it. The only way to stamp out the problem is by removing demand. Get your puppy from the pound, shelter or a registered breeder. Don’t be blinded by the cute. What Oscar’s Law calls for: • An end to puppy factories. • Councils to properly police standards in breeders around the country. • A ban on the sale of factory-bred puppies in pet shops, classified adverts and online. To learn how you can support the campaign, visit www.oscarslaw.org. - In conversation with Rihannon Sawyer article

article Legislation to remove Pit bulls from dangerous dog designation in Ohio Columbus, OH - There is light at the end of the tunnel offering hope to the Pit bulls of Ohio. This past week, members of the Ohio Senate began deliberations to revise the current law with regards to "dangerous" dogs. Currently, Pit bulls are unfairly targeted in the law - singled out based upon their appearance - rather than on merits of their behavior. Revisions to the law would remove the wording which singles out the Pit bull, or "Pit bull type" of dogs. HB 14, already passed by the House, will focus more on a potentially dangerous dog's behavior, and will place more responsibility on the owners of dogs designated as "dangerous and/or a nuisance". Specifics of the bill read as follows: the Revised Code to remove pit bulls from the definition of "vicious dog" in state law, to establish a process by which owners, keepers, or harborers of dogs that have been designated as nuisance, dangerous, or vicious may appeal that designation, to define a "nuisance dog," to change the definitions of a "dangerous dog" and a "vicious dog," to require the owner of a dangerous dog to obtain a dangerous dog registration certificate, to prohibit certain felons from owning dogs under certain conditions, and to change the penalties involving ownership of nuisance, dangerous, and vicious dogs. Finally, legislation which is fair - legislation which will treat all dogs equally, based on behavior rather than appearance. Legislation which will place blame where it is due. Note: The dog featured in the photo which accompanies this story is a dog available for adoption in Ohio. You can read Nevaeh's Petfinder profile at this link. Continue reading on Examiner.com Legislation to remove Pit bulls from dangerous dog designation in Ohio - National Dogs | Examiner.com http://www.examiner.com/dogs-in-national/legislation-to-remove-pit-bulls-from-dangerous-dog-designation-ohio?CID=examiner_alerts_article#ixzz1eI4cpq3z

I'd say no owner in sight anywhere roaming alot so instinct set in perhaps. some dogs i know mine do this, go crazy start hopping around getting over excited when they see kids jumping up and down and running making loud noises or screaming etc. gets a dog going sometimes - just saying. maybe thats what turned it who knows . but the point im trying to make is, no supervision of the dog so anything goes for it really and it looks like its been roaming a long time sort of like it being like a wild wandering dog in the neighborhood. another dog suffering because of an irresponsible owner. my dog is a cross rescue and he would lick a person to death, he actually got out at the rescuers house before i got him and hung around the house greeted some people on the street, before the people who found him got in touch with the rescuer who was out at the time, so she could put him back in.

hi, im out there. lol sounds like the vet isn't much help, i usually do anal glands when im bathing my toy dogs i haven't ever attempted to clean kelpie sized dogs. the vet (and finding a knowledgable one is half the battle it seems) should know more about how to tackle this issue, i tell all my puppy buyers to see a vet first before you attempt to do this yourself. i wouldn't want to go to a vet for him to tell me "it could be anything" i could stay home and tell myself that or get my mother to tell me that without paying any money sorry but thats not good enough to tell a client that. ETA: usually they will scoot when the glands are uncomfortable and full or usually if you are too late, they will erupt which is not pleasant for the dog.

all our pups are trained from when they are born to wee on newspaper you just paper the whole area which happens to be a pen. but a young pup doesn't exactly know they are operating on instinct so it would be a good idea to confine your pup to the kitchen where they can't get out to the entire house and paper the whole floor when you aren't there. you will have to train your pup to get used to toileting on the fake grass and this takes time when the pup has been brought up on newspaper. but getting wee pads or a piece of paper already weed on gets them to do it in a specific area and gradually you can perhaps train them to the fake grass. with my rescue kelpie cross boy, i confined him at the start to a specific area and put real grass down and branches so he could lift his leg mainly in the garage taht was attached to the house, for the first few weeks he was not house trained at first. gradually he got used to doing it there and then i moved it out and now he is housetrained only been one or two accidents in the whole 5 yrs that we've had him.

at least they mentioned your name so now people can look up MDBA and make up their own minds about what you guys stand for. i mean, its obvious if ppl visit the website. maybe she is getting mixed up with AAPDB lol apparently from what i heard there are alot of puppy farms/commercial farms signed up on their books to legitimise themselves. does she also believe that ANKC is also a puppy farm organisation? just goes to show what i and alot of others have been saying all along, they are against all dogs no matter if cross or pure being bred full stop.

that can be true too, i have a larger breed dog than my toys that was a rescue (kelpie,GSP, staffie, lab cross ) and he learnt very quick about house training whereas the small toy dogs take a few months, my larger breed dog learnt it in a few weeks. also i've had friends who switched from chis to dobs and they noticed how quick the dob caught on compared to the chihuahuas.

being independant and not wanting much attention must vary from line to line, i bred a litter of 5 way back in about 1993 and i kept all 3 girls out of that litter (Bianca, Tiana and Shar) and they all loved the attention and Shar was my number one girl and died at aged 7 of cancer of the spine, i was devastated she had been shown and won a few groups but she was more of a pet to me. Shar was very loving and loved the attention and loved coming with me in the car, she was a big cudddle pot. Bianca lived to about 14 and i had to put her down because she had many health issues and was in alot of pain. but Bianca up until she died use to sleep on my bed and she was almost like a little cat, cuddly and if i left her with my parents and walked away from her she'd cry to come with me and be picked up. i've also known other breeds of toys to be very independant and not wanting to be held or sit on your lap, it just depends really on the bloodline what they inherit as you can't really make a dog cuddly and wanting to be with you all the time it has to really be in them from birth i've found over the years.

i'd say it varies from toy breeds to bigger breeds, toy breeds are bit more fragile and i have a specialist with whom i've consulted for many years on all of this, and spoken to many toy breeders but not of the bigger breeds so i'd say that it would be a bit different given that the pups are much larger in bone structure than a tiny toy breed. it does vary from vet to vet they all have different opinions and breeders opinions and experiences also vary somewhat too i've found. this is a bit OT.

they aint the only ones saying that we feel threatened, normal everyday people in the public are saying it too, then i give them a big lecture on what actually is a hobby breeder then they retract their statement quick smart. they have no idea what-so-ever about us. got some friends who had to apply for a permit to keep just 6 dogs and they had to build a large outside kennel and comply with all the measurements away from the fence, drainage yadda yadda yadda, that outside kennels is now not being used, the dogs are in the house in their own bedrooms. lol but in order to get the permit thats what they had to do, lucky for my friend her hubby is a handyman and built the kennels for her. we got a permit 25 yrs ago when none of this crap was going on nowadays,the council did the checking with the neighbors and most said that they didn't even know we had dogs they never heard them and yes they have no problem with us getting a permit so it was granted. we didn't have to comply to all that breeders have to comply to nowadays. but it could change once the govts of the day put more and more restrictions on what people can do on their own properties though. i don't think we can assume we are safe really reading what is happening about the place.

has she got that dog now? haven't heard anything further about it all. faded out once the media lost interest i think. l heard she got it from a puppyfarm in Morwell? Who know's it could have been any a few within that area she got it given to her from billabong creek, they had a thread about it and it was in the papers.

no, testing for luxating patella in toys at vaccination time say 8-16 weeks is not recommended, it is a condition that develops as the dog matures, much better to test for patella lux at around 12 months old and above as any younger and the manipulation may do some damage on such young bones. and theres no point in testing so young as many dogs seem to develop this condition when they are older not that young. Dealing with PL for about 26 yrs now, written articles on it just incase you haven't heard of me, been plastering the info on here for about 6 yrs now.

you can't make assumptions on people's lives just from the outside, you have to really get to know a breeder get to know a pet owner it goes both ways. i dont' think the number of dogs has anything to do with what the breeders goals are. i know alot of breeders who are not puppy farmers who have alot of dogs but all of those dogs are well cared for and these breeders do not breed for profit, they are show breeders breeding because of the love of the breed. one breeder just loves animals and will take on rescues as well as having her show dogs in the mix as well as elderly dogs.

yep there is an old saying thats been going around for years in the showring. "petrol champions". lol some dogs get titles because the owner drives all over the state to get the points, some points towards the champion title might be won when there is no other dog in the ring. so some people seeing "champion" on a pedigree is all impressed by it but really when you look at it, champions can be not all that great quality, it has no bearing on how good or bad a dog actually is at the end of the day. some dogs do get their champion points in stiff competition some don't but it also has no bearing on the quality of the progeny they might throw either.

has she got that dog now? haven't heard anything further about it all. faded out once the media lost interest i think.

yes i totally agree with you there steve. there are several reasons why people choose to either go to a petshop or go online to get their pet. forgot about online as well as they can then by pass shops. there was information either from state or federal on where to go to buy a puppy and i read that it is best to go to a registered domestic business as they are government approved so right there and then i wrote to them telling them that they are encouraging people to go to farms. i was so angry now it looks like they have taken it down. others must of complained as well. with peter walsh if some of us perhaps wrote to him and explained the life of a hobby breeder maybe these sorts of people would begin to understand. I have done that over the years with many and the way i word my letters - politely and with a lot of info about our life with our dogs, they appreciate it and thank me for my input. so maybe someone needs to explain to these polies from our angle. i have the letter written in my head. explaining to him why it is wrong to assume that anyone that breeds a litter of pups and sells some pups off taht don't perhaps make the cut or the breeding program is a farmer. i don't agree with this angle at all, as we've said numerous times on here, farms are not always keeping their dogs in substandard conditions - some keep them quite well and can argue that quite successfully against the animal rights people but its more with the animal rights people sucking in as many of the public as they can and using something that will appeal to the public which is cruelty it gets attention and it seems to be working well. i take exception to the way they are bred as you already know what i take exception to, i think thats a much better angle to take but it requires knowledge of breeding, we all know animal rights people are like the pet owning public don't really know the ins and outs of breeding and also veterinary care - often they were challenging me and my knowledge of 26 years and then they obviously felt threatened afterall i was a mere dog breeder that had all the right labels to be a dog farmer , it can't come from the pet owning public it has to come from organisations such as yourselves, ANKC, or state controlling bodies to explain the ins and outs of breeding for quality rather than breeding for quantity and poor quality pets.