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so? my nieces purebred, registered ankc frenchie must have forged papers? since he cannot have been bred by an ankc kennel if he needs an operation to remove his oversize palette which every year is blocking his breathing, now to the extent his vet has advised the next summer can only be worse than last.. He lives in a air conditioned home, but just to go outside to do his business, he overheats so quickly is in distress by the time he comes inside. as my vet explained, when breeders shorten the face, the genes do not shorten the tongue or palette.... so they either hang out, in the case of the tongue. or impede breathing in the case of the palette. chihuahua's have the same problem... see it over and over again, newbies wondering why their darling baby is "choking". as my vet advises, put your finger on the muzzle and push it downwards to the chest, this will flick the palette up and away from the airways. pity not enough was known to avoid breeding them with the problem when the breeds were being created and features became exaggerated.

very true, how long has mandatory vaccination and microchipping been law? decades? I am still getting calls to chip unvaccinated and un chipped puppies. Even recently from my own grandchild, who should know by a country mile how illegal that is...".BUT nanna, I HAD to rescue it!" strange that not one of the people they bought their puppy from was a registered breeder? oh and NONE of them have used their darling backyard bred puppy for breeding, funny that? The Majority are unregistered purebreds, some beautiful representatives of their breed... .. good gene pool available to refresh the purebreds when they need new blood, like the Australian Stumpy Tailed Cattledog needed to bring in new blood. Wonder if they back stab each other too, the unregistered breeders?

beautiful Panto keep up the good work, guilt trip the person who was foolish enough to ask for advice. Hang in there Flick71, do your best for them and ignore the guilt trippers, they are not the majority of people. Although the purebred world seems to attract the precious who feel they are ordained by god to decide who is perfect enough to the allowed into their ranks. Mind you next week their best friend may decide they are not as perfect as they had believed and then the slanders will begin. and the covert phone calls to council inspectors and the animal welfare groups to inspect them for violations, and so the harrassmant, witch hunt and inquisitions begin of the suspect. Been in the dog world since 1978 and it was nothing like the last 20 years of self elimination.. History just keeps repeating itself... no witch hunts or heretic burning are allowed these days, but now its the thrill of the chase to eliminate and destroy backyard breeders and puppy farmers. Notice the definition of both is as vague as the parameters to drown or burn a witch or a heretic? nothing like a good cleansing of the neighbourhood to make yourself feel virtuous for some. Blissfully ignorant that some one they trust, or more likely someone they have offended, decides to out them for elimination..... the dark ages lust to purge still lurks today no one seems to remember they will probably be next

yes desex them as babies, stop the cycle. always assume the worst of someone wanting a pet today. I know plenty of people with frenchies and none of them are breeding their pets and none of them bought them already butchered before they were 8 weeks old. this is supposed to be a purebred forum. this is supposed to be a place where people who want a puppy are encouraged to come. what the message repeated over and over instead is anyone who wants a puppy, be it pet.. which 99 percent of people want, Even those I know who wonder about breeding a litter one day down the track and become a registered breeder, 90 percent of them, change their mind. Ask any breeder. Its hard work and it cost mega if something goes wrong... and when the patient is your much loved pet, most decider never to risk their life again. So keep it up. constantly assume the worst. So no puppy born will get the chance to grow as nature intended, it will be cut up and its insides altered before its 8 weeks because EVERY ONE who wants a pet is a liar and intends breeding it unto death or dumped. funny how few purebred toy dogs, even large breed, registered or not can be found in the pounds if you are as right as all these comments indicate?

yes, you will be bombarded with desex them before they go, who cares that early desexing will mean they will not grown normally as the puberty hormones will not be there to close their bones at the correct age, they will grow far taller and longer weaker bones and joints, not even their coats will be breed normal, their urinary tracts will not mature normally tend to be undersized and a significant percentage will be incontinent at an early age.... but hey their owner will have to deal that that problem... go google early desexing. apparently even tubal litigation and vasectomy at such a young age can be a disaster for a percentage of puppies, but hey, just because some people dont keep their word and desex at the best age (after puberty) treat everyone as guilty and who cares what the puppies will suffer down their road of life. one vet estimated early desexed dogs and bitches incur up to 7,000 more in vet bills over their life times, so nice windfall for the vet's anyway... the race to be ethical, doesn't include caring about the minus effects on the puppies... your friends bitch is lucky, she will be desexed as a adult ... lucky girl for her future health.

what this route is going to do, is open the door to the taking of any animal regardless of health and condition score, having access to food and water, clean living area will open end the number being seized and euthanased because they are "neglected" because not walked often enough and or "traumatised" because they dont greet every stranger as a new best friend and that is going to achieve what? more income for solicitors and "welfare charities" what does it achieve for the animals taken? well in the case of the border collies in sa the magistrate signed off on every one of those taken being destroyed based on their being shy. on the grounds they might become savage? yet kangaroos will not be allowed to be called sentient beings, solely because the law wants to still be able to issue permission to cull them, truth sure is stranger than fiction all right

what this route is going to do, is open the door to the taking of any animal regardless of health and condition score, having access to food and water, clean living area will open end the number being seized and euthanased because they are "neglected" because not walked often enough and or "traumatised" because they dont greet every stranger as a new best friend and that is going to achieve what? more income for solicitors and "welfare charities" what does it achieve for the animals taken? well in the case of the border collies in sa the magistrate signed off on every one of those taken being destroyed based on their being shy. on the grounds they might become savage? yet kangaroos will not be allowed to be called sentient beings, solely because the law wants to still be able to issue permission to cull them, truth sure is stranger than fiction all right

The saddest thing I saw was a video on utube, an antelope had been grabbed on the back by a golden eagle. The eagle then proceeded to eat the back muscles of the severely stressed out antelope, why it didn't throw itself down and roll on the eagle... it was obvious the eagle had done this before. Yet we hear all the time how much the human race is cruel. the distress of that antelope was terrible, whether it will recover from the damage or survive for how long after until infection sets in is anyone's guess

so cute, so like the ones my friends bred, you sure found a winner. LOVE her name

sadly the fact that farmers are seen as a population to be fleeced until bankruptcy in the quest for "cheap food" for the city dwellers means the family farm where animals were kept and bred by people who actually like them, be it meat or milk they are going to the wall in thousands because they cannot make enough to feed themselves anymore, Let alone their animals, the drought just speeded it up. before the drought there was some 3,600 dairy farmers, now there are some 600... big business is moving in and creating factory farms and that is not good for the animals.. all the photos of the dairy cruelty to the calves and the cattle are factory, employee farms, to them, they are just a job. there is no history, no third or fourth or fifth generation of the both the people looking after them or the animals descended from the original herd bred there for generations. Descended from Rose, Tonia, Lennie, Snowy..... the family pets that never see a meatworks, that live out their lives at home... the side no one talks about, because you might look silly. once that link is lost they are just numbers, tags and microchip numbers. cannot have cheap meat and milk and a family run farm, they cant survive and they are not

no vet in sydney will do it now apparently so many I have heard of, whose owners have given up trying to find one, the only alternative offered was drugged stupid or green dream.

forget any hope of that. the AR lot are sitting beside the pollies stroking their egos, while dictating word for word what they need to write to have the ar lot promise to vote for them .

"The ACT adheres to the national code of practice in culling animals, including in kangaroo culling, which is supported by the RSPCA. Veterinarian Dr David Rizkalla, from the Gables Veterinary Group, said the recognition of sentience was a good place to start enforcing animal rights. "It's more about protecting animals from people who can harm them, than giving animals better opportunities," he said. But he said it was important to clearly define which animals were recognised as sentient. "It could get in the way of the economy," he said. "I think it has to be quite clear if you introduce that sort of thing to large animals, like cows. "Farmers spend money on the animal if it gets them more money, it's a profit thing, it's not a sentimental value, it's an economic value." Is this meant to say that its only going to be recognised as "sentient" if it isn't for example a roo going to be "culled" or a cow sold or slaughtered"? as for "Farmers spend money on the animal if it gets them more money, it's a profit thing, it's not a sentimental value, it's an economic value." is this man for real? does he realise how many farmers spend a fortune looking after an animal during sickness or drought, paying costs way beyond what can ever be made back by selling it? if it was solely "economic value" EVERYTHING would be sold when a drought strikes..... economic sense is sell and wait for the drought to break... otherwise why havent the dairy farmers, being paid less than the cost of feeding their cattle tried for so long to keep their herds going....it sure was not for the income. there was over 3,600 dairy farmers before the onset of this last drought and of course the $1 a ltre milk. now there are some 600 left, the rest bankrupt. stupid people, they liked their cattle and tried to find ways to keep them, even when they had no income to feed themselves, let alone the cattle in the end.

I have no idea if they have been disbanded now our government has shrank CSIRO Animal Health into little more than a flake of its former size now. Accountants and office staff outnumber the scientists who actually made millions for Australia before being disbanded.......... so much has been disbanded. CSIRO Animal health led the world in animal research, health and prevention. With the latest information of the permit to export beef from America to Australia it is only a matter of time before BSE and foot and mouth arrive here along with goodness knows what, so many fruit disease's have already arrived since the level playing field arrived to achieve the vision of Australia as a player in the world economy, bio-security is no where near considered as important as free trade by the politicians of this country anymore.. There used to be sentinel herds, animals and plants in the top end to monitor for any incoming virus, bacteria or other disease vectors entering. Suspect like the closure of most of all the CSIRO animal health farms and facilities they too have been sold off. It is a subject my family know something about as my husband, son and many, many of our friends worked for this once great organisation that was once the envy around the world for the calibre of scientists who worked there and groundbreaking research done for decades. Even research as mundane as the correct antibiotic dosages for optimum efficacy so your vet can be sure your pet is saved..... and so, so much more. Two CSIRO employees, (coworkers with my family) decided to leave and tackle cancer research and have now formed their own company, the first to achieve remission in a mesothelioma patient . http://engeneic.com/ This is our interest,,, science..... EnGeneIC's lead technology platform, EDV™ utilizes antibody-targeted, bacterially derived, non-living "nanocells" to release high concentrations of chemotherapeutic agents, molecularly targeted drugs, and RNA-interference molecules directly into targeted tumor cells. In doing so, EDV™ nanocells enable current cancer treatments to be more potent and far less toxic, while also offering a potential new means for treating drug-resistant cancers. " Which means, not being fried inside your own skin, do not lose your hair, in fact none of the myriad side affects that happen with the present dosing of chemo direct into your body to fry every cell in your whole body as it does presently... These nano cells only target the cancer cells and do not damage any other cells in the body.... not the miserable scuttling little creatures ruining the lives of people they target because they are too dumb to even know their subject before they strike......but so far protected by their equally stupid politician protectors. unfortunate to learn one day of their existence, stupidity and unaccountability for that stupidity, that is.

Lets be stupid by all means. I meant ENTIRELY the bio-security risk but you are so one eyed SO cannot and will not see anything BUT what you do want to see. then accuse me of something that is not true to make your facts fit your vision. All I and everyone else who has learned the hard way, is that there be an avenue of appeal through an ombudsman, in the event of a dispute against the actions of special constables................ instead of the only present avenue of through the courts and guaranteed hundreds of thousands and in may cases millions wasted fighting for justice.... But you want your gods unfettered. they are to you, Infallible, like the pope , always right... the gift of being appointed by god. no wonder you are incapable of seeing that any organisation let alone a so called "charity" operateing with no accountability for the actions taken by employees, no avenue of appeal, even override a fully accredited holder of a University Degree of BvSc to demand the return or cessation of the slaughter of seized animals it's own vet can attest have nothing wrong with them.. Can enter and shoot any animal they so choose, even 131 if they so choose without avenue of appeal, actually not even any warning.(murray grey cattle stud and which court case they lost and 1.4 million damages awarded, BUT THE CATTLE ARE DEAD so nothing is going to bring back the dead)... Enter and shoot a lame horse and remove the leg for "evidence" leaving the body for the family and children to find, in the garbage was the injections and dressings wrapping the horse vet had only administered that morning.... THEY ARE NOT COMPETENT TO MAKE SUCH DECISIONS ON THE SPOT........... No psychological screening of employees to actually ensure they are sound of mind before they are handed "more power than the police" (direct quote from more than one special constable, incidentally) not that you care, gods on this earth to you long as they are wearing their badges.. I know none of that worries you one jot... any animal is better off dead isn't it by the comments you make. That is the only way you can justify the deaths of animals whose vets (who have done years to achieve their BvSc Diploma, believe have no reason to be killed, yet you believe these know nothing special constable have very right to kill the second they "form the opinion" to kill them.. that isn't even getting to the issue of the seized and later killed.... (why do Vet's bother doing all that study?, become an rspca special constable and you suddenly are an all knowing animal expert) even when a magistrate finds you killed them for no reason, and awards 1.4 million in damages against your employer...................still keep the job. a vet would be out of a job. odd that

depends on your dog really, there is an hilarious video doing the rounds on facebook. her dog decided to chase the ducks and dragged her into the water, give her, her due, she never let go and as she slid into the water hooked her heels into the rocks and finally won. soggy walk home though.

certainly haven't seen it in 60 years and hope to never see it again, my dad was considered quite weird, all his dogs were vaccinated, in those days his were the only ones in the street.

does she know if the bit about " an untreatable distemper, from an imported Koren dog" is true? We are so lucky in australia distemper is almost extinct now, terrible to see, even when some survive so many are are so damaged

The problem is, even with people who have pets, so few seem to realise animals are as individual as people and you have to find what works with each, they are not all the same, no such thing as one size fits all

apparently america has shut down so many "backyard" breeders they are importing hundreds of thousands of dogs to stock their "rescues"..

and now a dog from Korea has brought in an untreatable distemper, putting our North American dogs at risk because there is no shot to protect our dogs. This is a plane stacked to the roof of rescue dogs being flown into Lancaster last year to a Megadoption event in Philadelphia. If a breeder packed dogs in a plane like this, the pict would be posted on every major news fb page. Wonder how the water in the dixie cups zip tied to the crates lasted during a long flight?

too good not to share surely? I'VE BEEN BANNED FROM WOOLWORTHS Yesterday I was at my local Woolworths store buying a large bag of My Dog dog food for my loyal pet and was in the checkout queue when a woman behind me asked if I had a dog. What did she think I had an elephant? So, since I'm retired and have little to do, on impulse I told her that no, I didn't have a dog, I was starting the Dog Diet again. I added that I probably shouldn’t, because I ended up in hospital last time, but I'd lost 10 kilograms before I woke up in intensive care with tubes coming out of most of my orifices and IVs in both arms. I told her that it was essentially a perfect diet and that the way that it works is to load your pockets with My Dog nuggets and simply eat one or two every time you feel hungry. The food is nutritionally complete so it works well and I was going to try it again. (I have to mention here that practically everyone in queue was now enthralled with my story.) Horrified, she asked me if I ended up in intensive care because the dog food poisoned me. I told her no, I stepped off the kerb to sniff an Irish Setter's arse and a car hit me. I thought the guy behind her was going to have a heart attack he was laughing so hard. I'm now banned from Woolworths. Better watch what you ask retired people. They have all the time in the world to think of daft things to say. Forward this now, (especially) to all your mature friends...... it will be their laugh for the day.

I post what I find, if its fake news, point it out, but unless its discussed then it just does the rounds uncommented on. apparently there are quite a few people unhappy about this piece of news in england.... so many ankc people think its unethical to breed any puppys for pets. only to replace for the next generation and the few surplus to your needs allowed to be pet homed. and the rspca are all for that scenario. As are a huge percentage of ankc members, doubt that? the figures for 2017 prove it, and even the ankc has a policy that they immediately inspect any member who breeds ten or more litters in one year, and remember if its a toy breed that could be from ten to 20 pups, the equivalent of two litters for many breeds. http://ankc.org.au/media/6598/a-forensic-view-of-puppy-breeding-in-australiav4.pdf The good news though, only 86 breeders Australia wide need inspecting so major resource save, everyone else is left in peace... but the slander of the 86 is pretty blanket, just read the comments on the other ankc forums, not just here, not much chance of finding a ankc puppy for a pet for the majority of australians. Yet this has been allowed to go ahead? tragic for the dogs https://metro.co.uk/2015/07/16/britain-just-approved-a-farm-that-breeds-puppies-for-animal-testing-5299201/?fbclid=IwAR0V-p0z-_KLUe8jhAn4EygPJxHjndTOOziu1EaUjBNmdeFnPtc59dxJnoc

you might have some believing you but the disaster that befell the border collies in south australia kind of gives the lie to your assumption I am alone in discovering they are not what they make themselves out to be. took ten dogs based solely on the fact the dogs did not come to them, labeled as psychologically damaged the reason given to taking them, not inedequate housing or health. then reports saying all ten cannot be rehabilitated and get court order to kill all ten and addition court order to seize all the rest of the dogs they didnt take at the time. except apparently the owner realising what fate awaited the rest gave them away to rescues and all have been successfully rehomed? The rescues begged them to hand over the ten they want to kill but nope wont hand them over to anyone... apparently have killed four of them but still have the other six still locked up..it used to be called "dog in the manger" behaviour. The suspicion is maybe the bad press a LOT of people have issues in case you haven't noticed. shoot me all you like. I dont care. until we have a royal commission into the rspca nothing will improve, maybe even then it wont. but at least its a step in the right direction.

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