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good idea, but it will be deleted like the last one. Ill just delete what I put if you like? at least things have come a long way since 2000 say anything negative of em and you were frozen from posting and all u put deleted... people are beginning to realise maybe theres a whiff of truth to a percentage of the " I was wronged" who where character assassinated ... maybe another 18 will be needed for the royal commission

ummm interesting website... this page is talking about another busy money grabbing animal rescue site. Lots of interesting pages and links... OH and the frenchies rspca that were, rescued/seized/surrendered because her local council only allows 2 dog and 2 cats in WA... they were sold from 1800 to 2500.....although quite a few seem to have "disappeared" neither listed as sold/for sale or euthed.. just disappeared ? http://savingpets.com.au/blog/what-rescue-groups-are-saying-about-petrescue

I have this lady's permission to copy and paste her story....she had reported this person repeatadly to the "rescuers" of the bull Terriers who hit the headlines and finally here. appear to pick and choose who they "rescue" if these photos are any guide. "Anita B Have to laugh at the RSPCA carrying on about them living in 'filth'. Yes, the place looks like it could have done with a bloody good cleanup, but the dogs themselves looked to be in great condition and very clean. When I called them in to try to save some starving horses and help 17 dogs living in a house in absolute stomach turning filth the inspector told me they don't seize dogs over 'squalor' that they see that all the time. The owner showed them a few tins of Pal in the cupboard that she always kept for such occasions and had a few bowls of water out, so the skinny conditio of every single dog, the worminess, the ear infections meant nothing. Two border collies tied to verandah posts on 6' leads with an old bowl of water were totally ignored and a few of the horses were put on management orders, not one animal out of 27 taken. The inside of the house was so bad that a man shovelling out one of the rooms had to keep stopping to run outside and vomit. There was dog diarrhea and urine soaked rubbish up to a foot deep. no publicity either, RSPCA nabs drug addicted mentally ill hoarder doesn't bring in the donations quite like nasty puppy farmer with 110 dogs Dogs jumped in and out of this window all the time, this is acceptable housing. The dogs lived in here on rubbish, feces and broken glass from the window they’d smashed "

good advice, my dogs aren't staffyies but I make sure there is a 20 or 30 litre bucket tied so it cannot be overturned for drinking water but too narrow for the dog to jump in it and foul the water and for the summer I have cut down some of those big 250 litre drums cut about ten to inches max high as a personal swimming pool but the edges seem to be very attractive for chomping on as well so also get used as teething rings so dont be too shocked at the damage they cop.. also have an old fibre glass low (hip) bathtub...but they are useless as their water source as they can be really messed up from being jumped into and out of and even partly emptied just from the in and out taking the water with the fur...

I too like you, cant get my head around EVEN thinking I could attempt to look after 100 dogs.... but the thing is I dont find myself comfortable with the words being used. if that was ten dogs, the pictures are still of illegal housing,, yes it is illegal to keep any dog in a transport crate... that alone is enough to be charged... so why all the emotive language when even blind freddy has to admit to the majority of us "filth" is not torn up paper. it is feces,,, urine, mud, slush... that is torn up dry...DRY.....dry paper. paper turns to paper mache when you add any kind of fluid be it soft feces, urine or water....none of the three are discernible in any photos whatever...stains, dust yes they can be seen but be honest.. there is more shiny white paper than there is stains as for those pearly white feet and bodies... shut out the horror and amazement there are over 100 dogs...look at the photos.. the cages are illegal, the keeping them in them are illegal... the small bowls of water are inadequate no matter how often changed... all that is distressing enough that their owner couldnt see that for themselves surely? they needed help, they needed to know this is utterly unacceptable.... my understanding was if you break the law, be it fleas, unsuitable housing, underweight, injury, you have 14 days to either take immediately take to your vet, or comply or if not, seizure. For whatever reasons that didn't happen. one swoop all taken... win, win for the rspca already, so why the character assassination? You cant character assassinate the chap just charged with his wife's murder? You think I only lose it when the rspca are involved... The mere sight of Cardinal George Pell renders me sick to my stomach, long (decades) before the church awarded him the ultimate accolade for his betrayal of so many children whose lives have been irrevocably destroyed.. to me he should rot in jail for life to perverting the course of justice....but....I like those who the churches should have defended, take a slow breath and remember to take the next one and dont throw up... when stringy disappeared and every one of my frantic efforts to save him proved utterly futile..... I realised I know this utterly helpless feeling from somewhere before? Those children who begged Pell for help, know that feeling... that's why 70% of them were not there to represent themselves at the Royal Commission... 70% of them kill themselves before they get to see their 30th Birthday.... He, same as that accused murderer, believe it or not , is innocent until proven guilty? again, as Professer Sumner Miller would ask us,,, why is this so? stick to facts not embroider what your own dog would do to a sheet of newspaper in seconds flat......and get you slandered over the sudden onset of "FILTH"

had another look at the link "thistle the best dog" put up and actually not one single dog has anything but their toenails on their feet?? perhaps "filth" is the new word for torn up paper? remember Noddy's books are banned these days because in the 70's it wasn't offensive to "be feeling a little gay".. used to read the Noddy stories to my little brother... had him and Mr Plod puppets....so words certainly and their meanings do morph notice how pearly white the puppies in that "filthy" tubs toes and feet are??? Put it on BIG SCREEN .. every single one in every single shot, puppies and adults have clean feet.........

Not sure where, it was in a press release I read last week, but no idea where to re find it. Yes, its very unfortunate the poster didn't double and triple check. but did say all the rest is correct and apologised for the mistakes they didn't triple check

I suspect you have no idea yet of the new operating conditions they have decided on, no more tendering to run council pounds, they will no longer renewing the leases and the council will have to run them themselves or find others to do so... BUT they will handpick the most saleable from the pounds and take them so that way those killed by the pounds wont be going on their books as having been put down by rspca.

found 3 https://www.rspcaqld.org.au/adopt/search?animalType=3&shelter=18&breed=88&gender=&name=&age=0&advanceBody=false and more at brisbane https://www.rspcaqld.org.au/adopt/search?animalType=3&shelter=75&breed=88&gender=&name=&age=0&advanceBody=false

Just appeared on Faceplant.. further to the first ones I copied and pasted. " D B You will all no doubt remember my post the other day where l said "here's the real facts".I have to fess up that l got some of it wrong. You would no doubt realise there is a lot of outrage and confusion following an extraordinary event like the Bull Terrier debacle. With many true statements interwoven with supposition. I will now state that I stand by 70% of what l stated in that post as being true. I can now say ...a) the owner did not ring the rspca asking for help - it was a full on raid which they'd been planning for some time, b) she did not have the dogs ready for evacuation due to the fire, the dogs were never in any danger from the fire. The rspca has now issued a statement to "dispel the rumors", which pretty much addresses each point raised in my post, in exactly the same order as my post. My post has now gone viral and it's unfortunate that it was not 100% accurate, but now that l know much more about how it all went down let me just say that only a couple of points were blatantly wrong, as mentioned above. The lady's vet was interviewed by the rspca yesterday, no joy for them there. Neighbour's are saying ALL the dogs were always spotless, and exercised every day, multiple times per day. Due to upcoming action l cannot disclose too much more but will endeavor to update you in coming weeks."

certainly learning to walk fast, as I recall, in the earlier press release most of the dogs didn't know how to walk when let out of the cages? unsocalised, traumatised? forget the rest of the reasons they need funds to rehabilitate them, Well the expected $60,000 for the 40 puppies will help (a little) towards expenses surely? BULL TERRIERS UPDATE BULL TERRIERS UPDATE Dogs from the recent Bull Terrier raid have started to slowly make their way to adoptions at our Brisbane, Wacol and Noosa campuses where they are very quickly finding loving forever homes. Once available you will be able to see them online atwww.rspcaqld.org.au/adopt. This website is automatically updated on availability status within 30-45 minutes of the change taking place. There will be no holds or interested parties taken for these dogs. Interstate dog adoptions may be available on a case-by-case basis. As more of the dogs get ready for their forever homes we will update you with any other RSPCA adoption locations across Queensland. Please be patient with our teams as we manage this interest. Adult dogs will be $500 to adopt and young puppies will be $1,500. All dogs will be desexed, microchipped, vaccinated and up-to-date with their worming just like all of our pets. If you’re interested in making an ongoing commitment to volunteer or foster some of our pets in need you can apply online atwww.rspcaqld.org.au/volunteer orwww.rspcaqld.org.au/foster. Thank you in advance for your understanding and patience.

depends on how she matures, if she cant control her body temp in hot days you will lose her. my niece has a french bulldog, cute as paint but when they let him out for a toilet run during the summer if its midday he can seriously overheat in minutes once outside and minus his air conditioning.. have to play it by ear and see how she matures

I agree with all but one very important point you make..... " (from looking at the condition of some of the dogs, I'd say there were certainly some serious welfare concerns)" that was not correct, every single dog was not only in good condition without exception all were over optimum body weight... one dog and one dog only had a sore face. what no one has mentioned, and it did happen.. despite the fact they could easily have simply loaded the dogs in those crates into the vehicles and horse floats they removed them in, they chose not too. they put the dogs loose in the horse floats... because of this lapse of judgement two of the dogs with no health issues before they left the property, had the be put down due the the extent of their injuries due to being mauled by the other dogs they were put in with loose. Hello folks, bull terriers too can the pretty aggressive to each other, they too were a fighting breed during their formation...... That is pure negligence, same as the Waterways koala deaths in their custody. ... even if they didn't want to keep her transport crates, and that's what they were in those sheds there was nothing to stop them using them and returned when they came for the next batch as stated in their own press release? I noticed the rspca made no mention of the two deaths, in any of their press releases..

Been campaigning for transparency AND avenue of appeal SINCE 1995 after what happened to my friend Marion Alcorn and her ten Arabian's, what then happened to Stringy was so shocking, afraid it broke me badly, yet i already knew after what happened to Marion and her horses, human welfare is zero and animal welfare is not on their agenda, yet maybe I still believed what happened to her and her four mares, three colts and three fillies was a one off. Well until I learned no one is safe.. as for even a hint of at least an avenue of appeal,..................... so far, ZILCH! i AND SO many others thought after the Waterways enquiry and the deaths of the two Koala's, particularly in light of Leon Mills beautifully written submission by an ex Public Prosecutor would have achieved something... but no, utterly ignored.

Hey I had no idea there was anyone in Sydney who will debark a dog these days? is there or are they like the unicorn extinct? I know two dogs that will be put down and their owners are distraught beyond words...... they must be either debarked or euthanaised and neither can find a vet who will even discuss it . They rang me for help as I chipped both their dogs for them, but they dont realise I chip dogs not debark them..... pity the chips cant come with a volume control perhaps?

excellent rebuttal. urine soaked flooring means all that fluffy paper would not be dry shredded...it would be liquid mush? But hey what would I know... dry urine perhaps? no mention that it is fact that they only kept 40 to sell and are available now.....the puppies they do automatically, vaccinate, flea and worm all dogs, that was on Stringlys bill too, even though he had only been vaccinated the week before they stole him that day and flea and heartworm treated 24 hours before .... how the double dosage so close together of a 1.2 kg bit of nothing, didn't kill him was another miracle. (yes I have anger management issues. so would you if it happened to your dog and you were told what happened is YOUR fault). all the adults have been given to the bull terrier rescue , and no money given to them to pay for their desexing which is one of the condition that must be met before they can rehome them and or retrained if does need to be done, certainly nothing for the adults will be paid for by the rspca...

I noticed the same thing, and the fact that despite the words "filth" the only filth to be seen was shredded paper and we all know how many doo's a dog that size does in a day... not one in sight....that's when I began to wonder..... obviously these dogs are so well trained to wait to be let out for a run, not one had made a mess in its cage??????? or someones working full time pooper scoopering????? there's a story here we are not being told.... only took a week to come to light...remarkable it did though..

nothing like trial by media is there... another post people are asking to be shared..... sorry have to copy and paste..... ...So several days ago the RSPCA gained around 110 Bull Terriers from a breeder. What we do know so far is: The RSPCA said they were seized, owner said she called and asked for help to move them due to bushfires The RSPCA contacted every media outlet and told them how bad the conditions were and how the dogs were in terrible condition. The RSPCA when called by consumers not 24hrs later said that the dogs would be for sale at around $1800 each for puppies. The RSPCA kept all the puppies and younger dogs and now (not more that 4 days later) have them up for sale. The older (ie ones they can’t sell) were given to Bull Terrier rescue UNDESEXED and with no support for vets bills/care offered. The RSPCA is now calling for donations to pay for the vet bills (what bills?) for the dogs they are SELLING What other organization has the power to take your property and then 4 days later sell it and still be able to cry poor??? Time that the RSPCA was stripped of it’s power by the Government. To the ANKC – Please set up a fund to help breeders. Make sure if they do need help they can call their Canine Association first and know they will get support. Don’t let ANY ANKC breeder get to the point where they have to ask the RSPCA for help. I am happy to make the first donation.

unreal??? a week of character assination and it finally gets a mention on Dogzonline..... now for the REAL STORY.... J M shared a post. Admin · 19 hrs Another point of view to the recent RSPCA bullterrier seige. Mi Ownedbyanimals W 20 hrs SHARED POST.... and no I didn't write it....... Please keep it civil. Okay so here's the real story, a more disgusting tale of woe than you could ever have imagined. The property owner did not have 110 breeding dogs. Some of them were rescue dogs awaiting new homes and some were other people's dogs who had been left with the property owner to keep them safe from the fires in the area. The fire situation worsened and early in the morning she crated all the dogs ready to evacuate them. When it became obvious that she wasn't going to be able to get them all out in time, in desparation she called the rspca to see if they would/could assist with evacuating the dogs. The rspca said they wouldn't help unless she surrendered them to the rspca and so she was placed in a drastic situation and agreed to surrender them. The rspca arrived on the property and they then locked the owner in the house for 14 hours, refusing to let her tend to the dogs or give them water. This included a 2 week old puppy which was being bottle fed, they refused to let her feed it. God knows what has happened to that little one now as the rspca were too busy letting the whole situation deteriorate so they could get the pictures they needed of dogs panting in crates with no water etc etc. The dogs included imports and some of the top Bull Terrier bloodlines in the world. These lines have all now been lost to Australia. All dogs over 12 months old were given to Bull Terrier Rescue under rspca terms ie they MUST be desexed before being rehomed. The 40 young dogs and puppies have been kept by the rspca and they will be sold for top dollar. A nice little nestegg for the rspca, $80,000+ for very little work. The dogs were all in excellent condition and they were clean, fat, healthy and in fact could have left the property and gone straight to a show they were so clean. They all had wagging tails and did not show a single sign that any had been abused or neglected in any way. The video of the dogs in the dirty crates was taken after the 14 hours of rspca neglect had made the situation look as bad as it possibly could look. You'll notice the video only featured one room and the shed and did not show any other areas of the property ie her runs, her facilities etc. I can't even imagine the pain the owner has been put through watching the rspca do this to her beloved dogs by keeping her away from them on a very hot day with an imminent fire threat looming. Then to wake up the next morning and not have a single dog on the property would be soul destroying. Wondering if the bottle fed baby had survived. My heart really goes out to the owner of the dogs, l hope she gets help and does not have a complete breakdown over what they did to her beloved dogs. The rspca have now truly shown what an absolutely despicable bunch of psychopaths they are. Liars, bullies and completely heartless, they should not be given a mouse to care for let alone valuable breeding dogs like these. So now you have all the facts, yes there are always two sides to any story, and this just shows you can never believe any story the rspca tells FOOTNOTE. G K Not to mention they stuffed the dogs together in horse floats and trailers- no matter they’re stressed out Bull Terriers and guess what- 2 dogs put down once arrived at rspca because they’d mauled each other on the trip to shelter. Bravo rspca. f***ing disgrace. Manage S AND NO one is going to sue them for aggravated cruelty either!

I suggest you go with your idea, park, neutral territory... you dont want your boy to feel territorial first meeting. is your boy also a cavalier? if so once they get to know each other and all seems good then take home together, but until settled I wouldn't leave them together unattended for the first days until they have settled in. better to prevent any possible confrontation rather than deal with because you rushed things. remember to make your first dog first attention, then you dont create the problem yourself, the new boy will be feeling a little out of the loop but dont add to any by seeming to prefer the new boy over the original. make the fuss of the other boy while the other is busy in another room until they are settled with each other...then can be equal attention..

TEND TO AGREE staffie bull terriers have all the good and none of the bad baggage... my aunt bred them for decades. ... love em

Honestly, so glad you asked before you picked it up, There is a very good reason it is illegal to sell an unvaccinated, unmicrochipped puppy. Let alone unwormed puppy, the intestinal damage , even if wormed immediately can be too late and it will die anyway. RUN...........not walk, as fast as you can, away from that puppy. the 100 is a minuscule loss compared to what you may suffer if you dont, both financial and emotional . its heartbreak your heading for. Was asked to chip a puppy for a friends boyfriend.. same scene... soon as I saw the puppy I refused to chip it, no vaccination either, hot nose all danger signs. told them to take it to the vet immediately..... $2,700 later in vet bills it died, that was one very expensive puppy, a significant percentage of these unvaccinated, unwormed puppies ARE going to die. VERY expensively too if its you footing the bill. See it way, way too often. Shouldn't still be happening, there is not enough education of people happening. your next call should be the to police to report an illegal person, they are not a breeder, if they were, all the necessary would have been done.

I suspect someone must have come to the door while I was out and Jody jumped up onto the tank beside the door so she could see who was at the door as the windows run behind the tanks. With a view of the door. she had never done it before.

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