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It saves many from being put down but the libbers are busy to get it banned as noted in an older thread they have succeeded in Victoria

Mr Wise was recently quoted in a Fairfax article as saying:""At one time, not all human beings were considered 'persons' — children, women and slaves were simply the property of men. We're saying that, based on clear scientific evidence, it is time to take the next step and recognise that certain animals cannot continue to be exploited as property." Hey, women are still being killed at the rate of more than one a week by their partner so they still are viewed by a significant percent as property to be destroyed if they so wish. At this rate the animals will have more rights than the female of the human species is allowed yet?

except the compromised purebreds be they backyard bred or pedigree bred when crossed can combine instead . I refused to walk to the exaggerated drum, I selected and bred for soundness from day one, To do so is to invite persecution by those who believe extreme "improvement" is the hall mark of ethical. it was a fellow member of my breed club who would play with my dog at the meetings who made that fateful call to enable the rspca to arrive and take him. She bred for exaggeration and compromised reproductive traits but she showed, so when you show your "ethical" and thus then feel empowered to eliminate any who do not aspire to her version of ethical. so many are busy destroying all who don't march to their drum from within. how often do we hear, a member cannot be "ethical" if they do not show? Don't show, you will get the knocks on the door, until the embarrassment of the badged vehicle at the gate has the neighbours as well deciding, "where there's smoke there's fire," causes the target to resign, or if the reporter is lucky the target has a dog that day with something that will make the knocker money in court, whatever. gets rid of those who do want to breed sound middle of the road purebreds very effectively

so you missed seeing Rob Zammit with a cute little designer shih tzu x maltese x ? with malacludded bite, lulating patellas, navel and groin hernias, entropian and I think? blocked tear ducts. all the hybrid health issues of all three breeds rolled into one little cute vets high income earner

unfortunately the show scene leads the way in 'improving' on what they have, the standard for the Persian cat had the sentence "pleasant expression" deleted from the standard to permit the new improved no muzzle gargoyles that had began to appear to win over the few left with a muzzle and a pleasant expression.as for the lovely cats my uncle used to breed in 1948, they actually had a face but they were soon regulated to being called "chocolate box persians" as the only place you could find them by the 60's was photos on chocolate boxes and so it goes the original can still be spotted occasionally but only in the dreaded backyard never at a show unless its a pet show for moggies

have to admit, although my old horse never killed a dog, he sure scared many an intending attacker witless. he liked to wait until the second they thought they were going to latch on to him and he spin fast as a cat and land with the dog between his descending feet with a full set of teeth straight for its face, they tended to turn themselves inside out trying to do a 180 and flee for their lives, dont mess with a savy stock horse that can cut wild rabbits let alone a slow moving dog. this is the old boy in full flight aged 26 winning the penrith show iron woman race by half a mile,, which he won again by a 1/4 mile margin the next year aged 27, there were 14 the first year and 12 the second year and a fraction his age, decided to see if it was true, as that old saying goes 'Old Age And Cunning Will Overcome Youth And Skill Every Time", eh?

"as a companion or a cow who is born male and therefore can't produce milk to profit the dairy industry." I gather the writer is unaware that in cattle, a cow is born female? a bull is born what? male "consider the large protests in Australia against puppy mills" so I gather the writer is also quite unaware that now councils are now demanding that anyone who wants to breed their dogs they are obliged now to build large concrete floored sheds which are then expected to be air conditioned? A friend has just been told this by dungog council. obviously the council appears to be very unaware this building automatically conforms to the label of a puppy farm, also ignores the fact Australian summers are incredibly hot as everyone has been well aware this summer in particular, both suburbia and country are subject to blackouts, such sheds would then become the equivalent of a locked car. cooking the animals unfortunate to be inside it. yes animal libbers are doing a great job creating puppy farms, because its the animal libbers and the so called animal charity who the pollies are writing the laws as dictated This proposed draft does not describe a hobby breeder, it describes the ideal "puppy farm" right down to the number of "staff" required. This is the creation of puppy farms. not the other way around. http://www.nswcfa.asn.au/notices/notices/News/Discussion paper - proposed draft S%26G (Breeding Dogs and Cats) 27 October 2017.pdf

no but the risk of infection from the bites and the mental damage to the horses will mean they would probably bolt if they see a dog heading for them in future. pity one of the horses wasn't a dog killer, my brothers mare and her mother would dispatch any attacking dog in seconds they were very good at it. Never had to worry about dog attacks to them or the other horses in their paddock, I never saw either in action but a neighbour said the mother would jump on the dog and when she grew up the daughter did the same. a friends gelding does the same, I saw him take on a dog and kill it, that turned up while I was visiting and went for them in their paddock, so some horses will do it. Something to remember if your dog is offleash and heads towards some horses one day

unreal, didnt even know the dog was a pointer, sure looks like a purebred but? https://au.news.yahoo.com/nsw/a/38871353/subject-of-rspca-search-shares-photos-of-loved-pet/?cmp=st

the tragedy is it wouldnt happen if not doubled up but even in breeds that have merle the majority of breeders ive met dont know. well remember the attempts to get imported merle chihuahua's accepted as purebred, they have enough additions already when the long coat gene was introduced so long ago, still get throwbacks you couldnt tell from a purebred pom or papillion and that was introduced some 80 or more years ago. so it was knocked back here in australia. it wasnt just the merle gene we figured would have been added to the gene pool

that one was lucky at least it has eyes. I suspect many double merle matings are accident. either one was not recognised as being a merle or the other ooo too common cause, many who do it haven't a clue what happens to the double merle puppies until they have to see and deal with the result

Well they are certainly more frequent and the damage done is far worse over the past decade Now a study of breeds involved and the aggression level of the attacking canines would be interesting If the push is successful to have animals animals recognised as sentient beings is passed Will such dogs be facing murder or attempted murder charges? Isn't a sentient being also supposed to know right from wrong? Never met a dog that killed seem to show remorse, my friends lab was wagging his tail when she woke up to find he was standing over the body of her son's 18 months old kelpie, in fact her lab was puzzled he wouldn't wake up

Everyone can be accused of being a backyard breeder, all it takes is having a backyard and someone doesn't like you. As for learning genetics, so many view their dogs as fur children and don't see the necessity to learn genetics. How many times it won or has Ch in front of it's name is the criteria

Can be a real pain when it's a pony, she wouldn't drink unless we brought water from home, so for away mounted games or any other thing had to take enough water to last till we were back home n the darned 20itre containers are HEAVY

The results for their registered pure bred successfully shown wheaten terrier.

there is a uni in Canberra who has dismissed therapy animals from coming to campus to interact with stressed students, http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-11-02/university-brings-petting-zoo-to-calm-students-during-exams/9111504 apparently the animal libbers convinced the board they were exploiting the animals. So it has been discontinued. believe it or not.

Yes, why believe the people who have learned how ruthless and their stories have to be lies and falsehoods. well until its your turn to be labled in a witchhunt and then it will be your turn to discover guilty without avenue of appeal. I was lucky, my dog refused to give them any posative results to their tests so they could charge me. But they still made a tidy profit so 13 days later they did ring me to come and get him and all I had to pay was the 600 odd for all the unnecessary tests they did despite his own vet calling every day demanding his return as he had nothing wrong with him. good income, seize an animal, run up all the costs you want and the owner has to pay if they want their pet back. no other vets in is country can do that but they can. The seven million they have spent in fighting the owner of the Murry Grey cattle they slaughtered was well spent even if they lost the case and ordered to pay two million compensation. I doubt they will ever pay it, just keep dragging it through the courts, hear they are appealing to the supreme court. no idea when it will be heard or what the result is still a win for them in spreading the word, stand up to us and we will break you not only mentally but financially. ensures anyone charged by them will plead guilty. there are few australians can afford to shell out millions to defend themselves, money well spent in scaring the shit out of anyone stupid enough to think of fighting them in court.

juice, the "well bred" ones were bred to kill other dogs. As said in an earlier post they were also bred to love people so they didn't tear the handlers apart when they were being separated after a fight. each breed was "well bred" for its purpose, even tibetan spaniels were "well bred" to protect the temple, read the breed standard, "Tibetan Spaniels are gay and assertive in temperament. They are highly intelligent and aloof with strangers." That aloof is what was used by an RSPCA vet to kill a recently rehomed show dog when his new owners made the mistake of going there for a checkup, they were very happy with their new dog as was it with them, its fatal mistake was in showing it did not liked the vet. The vet told them it might attack someone so should be put down, which they finally agreed to. but it got worse from there. According to its vaccination card its breeders vet was in NSW AND had debarked the dog. The Victorian government under rspca urging had invoked a new law, I expect it is still in place. that no dog born and owned in victoria could be debarked in another state and shown in victoria, the penalty being ten years in jail, forget the fine amount. The vet learned the dog was shown recently prior to being rehomed, resulting in the rscpa raiding the breeder and seizing her dogs, she was facing some 80 years in jail for showing her debarked dogs. despite pleas for clemencay, as she had debarked them because a neighbour was dying of cancer and needed quiet. They used their favourite excuse "their hands were tied" she had broken the law. usually their "hands are tied" when a starving horse has food and water. But this time it was the other way around. It went to court and thank god the magistrate didnt consider his/her hands were tied and dismissed the case. The mental angish their elderly breeder must have suffered over the intervening weeks while her much loved dogs languished in their kennels exposed to goodness knows what diseases from the strays housed near them would have been beyond belief. There are many breeds that being "well bred" will get them into trouble today and ensure they will rarely past the infamous rspca's temprement tests. as their owner you need to know this and ensure they are not put into positions where this can get them into trouble. only this week I had a lady phone me looking to rehome her cattledog. He had bitten a person loitering beside her front door. she was saying how loving and friendly he always is when she takes him for walks and at dog parks. no agression at all to other dogs or people. I explained to her, he was bred to protect his home and his humans and their possessions. a stranger loitering at her front door would kick in his inate instinct to protect her home, Frankly she should never have put him in that position, she had not kept him behind a fence where could warn strangers away from their property , he had allowed him free access to all the property and unfenced front yard. it was an accident going to happen some day. my dogs love everyone, BUT threaten me or my family and the change is immediate and its been bred into these dogs for over a hundred years. for example, I always tell a pupppy buyer, never let your dog run loose, it must have a secure yard. one day I received a phone call from a chap who when he bought his puppy had told me he intended taking to attack training. I told him dont do it. if you do that its like buying a luger pistol and leaving it not only with ammo in it but the trigger cocked, your dog will always to looking to you for the signal, attack or not? you reduce his quality of life. well thats my opinion. The acd's ive seen attack trained never have that happy look to their eyes they had before that training. so he didnt do it. the phone call was to tell me his dog was the neighbourhood hero today. he had not done as I had told him, the dog had the run of the neighbourhood, he had worked out his routine and as he lived in a cul de sac the dog had embraced the entire cul de sac as his area which included the corner shop where the people from the nearby nursing home came to shop. that morning one of his clients (as the dog saw it) was walking towards the shop when to her surprise he began to growl, surprised she asked him "what was the matter" instead of wagging his tail and coming for a pat, he charged straight at her, leaping into the air and she in fear crouched down as he flew over her shoulder. Next she and the people in the shop heard the clatter of a metal pipe falling and rolling. as she turned and the shopkeeper ran out, to see an intending purse snatcher who had been about to hit her across the back of her head with the pipe, flat on his back with the dog standing on his chest as if he had been watching the Rin Tin Tin movies. snarling at the man daring him to move. Both remained frozen in that position until the police arrived and he was arrested. All I could think was thank god he had not bitten that man or his life would have been forfit. Thats how bad things are today for protection bred dogs. and for fighting bred dogs. owners need to remember that. or they have failed their dog. Same with a pit bull , strange dog near their home, its a disaster waiting to happen. know your breed, know the triggers that will kick in if those triggers are tripped.

if they cant even get it right for identical triplets your paying a lot of money for the bitsa tests with no way to prove they pulled the results out of a hat. but this proves they do just that with your dogs too. ( http://www.dogbreedaustralia.com/dog-breed-testing.php ) http://www.worldlifestyle.com/shocking/identical-triplets-take-dna-test-just-discover-worrying-truth/16?slides=1

probably same kind of person who forgot they were to drop the baby off at the preschool and went straight to work and left it in the car, that baby died too just read the bit about texting the owner when she remembered, how horrific for the owner

wasting your time moosesmum destroy backyard breeders the world will be a better place but they are too blind to see they are advocating the destruction of themselves, if you have a backyard you can be labled too. lots died in the salem witch hunts as did in the spanish inquision, good way to get rid of anyone you dont like, same scene here

although they do have one little defence under their belt. they can refuse or cancell any membership without explaination. remember the kerfuffle when the Telegraph announced the name of the new Chairman of the Board of the then NSW Canine Council. his decades long membership of rspca nsw was immediately cancelled as was the membership of a member of the Board who too was a dual member. dont get your name known for being a breeder or they chuck u out so fast your head will spin. funny that eh? does any ankc cancell the membership of anyone who is discovered to be a member of the rspca? surely hope not

the real stupidity is the rspca could be stopped in its tracks and rerouted from the peta agenda back to actually caring for all creatures great and small in no time flat, if every dog and cat owner and breeder became an rspca member, we number hundreds of thousands yet are too apathetic to join and by voting put in people who actually know and care about animals instead of letting the peta mob take it over. I learned what was happining in 1999 and suggested same to many members of the then Canine council, now Dogs NSW. their member ship then was in the tens of thousands, but actually all pet owners should get up off their proverbials and turn this mob back onto their charter instead of letting the animal rights mob destroy it and everyone with a pet, their membership, alllll members ship isnt 10% of the number who are members of Dogs nsw. so it would be an easy fix, why so lethargic? Its your pets at risk EVERYONES PETS! pedigree and x bred

hadnt seen this post. far as I read it once this is signed you cant even keep one entire female unless she lives outside in airconditioned shed, if it looks like a puppy farm, is legislated to be a puppy farm then surely thats what they are legislating to create? I received this in the mail "URGENT NOTICE TO ALL MEMBERS REGARDING CHANGES TO STANDARDS AND GUIDELINES OF POCTA Meeting for information and Question and Answer night for members has been called for Monday 18 December 2017 at the Dogs NSW comples commencing at 7.30PM with various speakers which will be live-streamed for those in country areas or who cannot attend. DPI has drafter changes to the Guidelines and Standards of Prevention of Cruelty to Animals (POCTA) - it is important to note these changes can/will be actioned witout Parliament Discussion let alone vote as they are a change to the standards written under the Regulation of 2012 and can be signed off by the Minister alone to take affect" So looks like Dogs NSW is taking it pretty seriously.

If the letter I received from Dogs Nsw is anything to go by if the minister signs this , its the end of hobby breeders, paves the way for only factory farms. yet the pollies and even the members of all breed groups, both pure and x bred as well as the rest of australia has been duped into believing the constant revamps were to shut down puppy farms, not create them as the only place that will have or afford to have the infrastructure to meet these requirements. It was 32 deg in my kitchen both days this weekend, does this mean I cannot rise a child in my home? certainly cannot raise a puppy or a kitten according to this. unless everyone takes the time to ring and write to their local pollie this is the end of all but factory farms. PETA/rspca must be dancing with glee.