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they win in the halter ring, same for so many breeds, I bought a himalayan kitten for my daughter in 1988 she had a face, medium sized eyes, muzzle U name it, she was a cat, a healthy, long lived cat. today they have no nose, bug eyes and all the same problems of the brachycephalic dog breeds. I know it sounds nice to phrase that they did as "improving" the breeds. The show world is continually "improving" as one who was born in 1948 I do not see the total recreation of the bone structure of a breed as improving it, To me it is "destruction". but I do not expect the show scene will see it that way in my lifetime https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_cat They removed the sentence "pleasant expression" from the standard in the late 80's so the gargoyles that had arrived on the scene, could win. to quote an article describing the old style v the improved. "Blocked tear ducts were not as prevalent" Blocked tear ducts can occur, but are not as prevalent as in other Persian cats. - See more at: http://www.cat-world.com.au/Cat-Breeds/chinchilla-cat-breed-profile.html#sthash.e2Fmx64B.dpuf

well there is a new list of submissions and 8 of them are from the rspca. this one is a doozy considering the dying, dead and rotting horses debacle " RSPCA Australia submission to the Inquiry into RSPCA Victoria 6 March 2017 Objectives of the RSPCA The RSPCA in Australia rose out of a need to improve the lives of the thousands of horses literally being worked to death in the streets of Victoria in the 1870s. It was through RSPCA advocacy (then the Victorian Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals) that eventually laws were changed for horses and specific legislation aimed at preventing animal cruelty was introduced." enjoy....https://www.parliament.vic.gov.au/images/stories/committees/SCEI/RSPCA/Submissions/Submission_55-RSPCA_Australia.pdf no sense in putting a new post, no one is listening anyway. although the day its there turn they will be far from happy to discover you dont have to be guilty to be rolled by this lot. so just posting this link for my own information so can find it again if I want too. https://www.facebook.com/groups/1083536528374841/permalink/1383767305018427/?comment_id=1384673558261135&reply_comment_id=1385140651547759&notif_t=group_comment_reply&notif_id=1492562656663561 And the lady who lost her old girl because she had long toenails. https://www.facebook.com/groups/1083536528374841/permalink/1383287378399753/ . . . . .

Have your say before it is too late, this is Wednesday, you have until Friday. Dont leave it to so few. Friday, 3 March 2017 11:55 AM To: RSPCA Victoria Inquiry Subject: Fwd: RSPCA ENQUIRY VICTORIA From Elizabeth chapman Subject: RSPCA ENQUIRY VICTORIA The Animal Rights organisations are having their say, we DO NOT want what they are suggesting. It's imperative you send something in, even if it's only a page full of dot points stating where you feel they gone in the wrong direction, and how you feel this could be rectified. Here are some relative dot points .... ● high kill rates are unacceptable. The rspca have, in the last couple of years, lost several large and very lucrative Pound Contracts with Local Councils due to their high kill rates. Glenelg Shire Council rejected rspca's tender for Pound Services in 2016 when their previous 10 year contract expired, due to a 400% increase in costs put forward by the rspca. The contract has been renegotiated and the rspca still holds the contract for Glenelg, however several other Pound Contracts have been given to other tenderers due to high kill rates, the public no longer finds such high kill rates acceptable. ● unacceptable treatment of animals in their care (l have many instances of this reported to me - cats with cat flu being put in the same area as kittens - actually the list is long and very sad). Kill statistics show many puppies are put to sleep when they come in with parvo, rather than attempt to treat them and give them a chance. Many other animals are euthanised for 'behavioural issues' and the rspca's Temperament Testing has been highly criticised as being unrealistic and unprofessional - a dog who is 'sensitive' and perhaps previously a much loved pet, will not respond well to being in a pound situation, when forced into confronting situations with strangers. ● inability to enforce the Animal Act without prejudice. The rspca appear to use their own Charter to decide whether to prosecute or not. Their Charter has nothing to do with the work they perform when they are acting as enforcers of POCTA (Prevention of Cruelty to Animals Act). When they are enforcing POCTA, they are acting on behalf of the Crown, NOT on behalf of the rspca. On the other hand, whilst using their Charter to decide whether to prosecute or not, they ignore their own Constitution, where it states under Statement of Purpose 4.1.5 "Providing relief programs to assist people within the community who are experiencing adverse circumstances, to enable them to care for or manage their animals". The attitude of rspca Inspectors is in many cases aggressive, with a heightened desire to prosecute. I have not heard of a single case where the rspca has provided a 'relief program' to someone experiencing adverse circumstances. They take a hard line once they have selected a 'target', even when elderly, isolated, mentally ill and/or severely financially compromised people are involved. ● failure to properly investigate instances of cruelty - the Bulla case was a classic example of this. Many calls were made to the rspca over many months and all they did was look over the front fence of the property. On the day the horses were finally rescued, a neighbour got 2 utterly sick of the stench, called them again and was told "we don't work on weekends". Neighbour then called Police, and horses were finally rescued, by Police, RacingVictoria and several small horse rescues. The rspca did not turn up until the following day (Monday) to see the rescued horses. As for their statement they "do not work on weekends" on the Sunday the horses were rescued, the rspca were actually "working" they were over at the swamps for the opening day of the Duck shooting season. Laurie Levy and his bunch of animal activists were there doing their usual crazy antics, "rescuing" ducks that had been shot - or in other words stealing them from registered licenced hunters, before the hunters could retrieve them. The rspca had a van there with a vet and two other staff, "saving" ducks. One activists was seen carrying around the half rotten carcass of a swan which was obviously not killed on the day, but it was added into the statistics. Statistics used by the rspca and the various activists group who are trying to get the duck hunting season stopped. ● extremely high turnover of staff suggests that all is not well at RSPCA Vic. Thirteen (13!) Inspectors have left the employ of rspca Vic in the last 6 months! Two of them were 'career Inspectors': 1) a Senior Inspector; 2) the Inspectorate Manager who left in December 2016 and is now working in a lesser paid situation in a small Local Council - this was the worker who started working in this field in 1999 for SPCA in America, and was bought over here by the rspca on a 457 visa. ● lack of training for rspca Inspectors .. they used to attend the same (comprehensive) training courses as Police Officers, this was abandoned a couple of years ago and training is now undertaken 'in house'. No 'recognised' animal care or husbandry training is given to rspca Inspectors yet these are the people who make judgement calls on highly experienced graziers, dog, cat, and horse breeders, and even Vets in private practice, as to whether or not a prosecution should be applied. ● inability to complete paperwork properly and poor attention to detail. For example, in relation to a high profile seizure of pedigreed dogs last April, their 'statement' was compiled and dated in January 2017. Nine months had passed, and the wrong Police Officer's name appeared on the statement. People who were in a specific location on the property when the dogs were seized, were listed as being in another completely different location on the statement. It is vital that these details be correct on statements, as they are tendered to the court as evidence. ● given the nature of rspca Inspector's work, which could at times be extremely upsetting, yearly psychological examinations should be essential, such as those applied to Police Officers, Ambulance workers etc. No psychological evaluations are ever given to rspca Inspectors. This would help weed out the ones who may have become 'soured' by the nature of the duties, who then appear to become hardened and inflexible - these are the people who are more likely to indulge in bullying and stand over tactics. ● failure to adhere to their own Constitution in relation to working 'with' other bodies who have similar objectives. Under Section 6, Powers and Duties of the Board 6.c.(ii): effect affiliations with any other body which has similar objectives, either within Victoria or elsewhere, upon such terms as it seems fit. The rspca has in the past been notorious for its unwillingness to work with specific Breed Club Rescues or with DogsVic to achieve a working relationship which ensures 'best outcome' for the animals who come into their 'care'. In fact they conduct themselves, via lobbying to politicians, in a way that penalises DogsVic members by contributing to the creation of oppressive and unworkable legislation with no exemptions for the responsible bodies ie DogsVic and it's members. ● the rspca has a spiraling member base all over Australia. In Victoria their membership in 2014 was 1,111, in 2015 was 1,048, and in 2016 it was 979. On the other hand, DogsVic has a membership base in excess of 10,000, with 280 affiliated clubs, and current liquid fixed assetts of $4.75 million. Proving DogsVic are "here to stay". DogsVic are possibly the BIGGEST LOBBYING GROUP in Victoria, yet they fail to use their numbers to achieve better outcomes for their members, and they fail to protect their members when they are 'targeted' by the rspca unfairly. Further, DogsVic and it's members make significant 3 contributions to canine research for specific health issues while the rspca makes no contribution to research whatsoever. Whilst making no contributions themselves, the rspca feels it is acceptable to launch continued attacks against DogsVic members, stating we are breeding animals that are 'riddled with health problems' ie Brachycephalic breeds and short legged breeds. This is hypocrisy at its very worst. ● the rspca continues to ignore it's MUA (Memorandum of Understanding and Agreement) between the Dept of Agriculture and rspca Vic, whereby cattle and farm animals should be dealt with by Agriculture Victoria. The rspca appears to pick and choose cases where it will act to enforce POCTA, when it should not be involved in any cases in the agriculture sector. ● the rspca believes ALL DogsVic members are breaking the rspca Charter by crating dogs. Any dog sport is a form of entertainment and this is condemned in the Charter, they say dogs should be free to develop their inherent qualities. Yet item 2 of the Charter says "no animal should be used in the production of food or《fibre》", therefore they are saying Maremmas and other herd guarding breeds should not be used to guard fibre producing animals. The Charter is at odds with itself and is not based on the reality of hundreds of years of agricultural traditions. In any case, a written law (legislation) will always take preference over a Charter, therefore the Charter is not relevant to any prosecution work they may undertake. ● the rspca heavily promotes the details of its prosecutions on their social media forums then does not discipline or moderate the comments that are made by their followers. I have seen such comments as "take her out and hang her from the clothes line" or "lock her up and throw away the key and don't feed her" and too many more to mention, made in relation to an accused animal abuser. No attempt is made by the rspca to control these death threats and horrible remarks in their social media forums. This serves to inflame the Animal Rights devotees who get whipped up into a frenzy of hatred and vitriol. A responsible organisation would not allow death threats to stay on its social media. ● when the rspca do a seizure, particularly when pedigreed dogs are involved, they 'cherry pick' the dogs they seize, taking show dogs in full coat, or in show condition, whilst leaving old and desexed ones behind. This highlights inconsistencies in their decision making processes, if one dog is at risk then surely all dogs at that location are at risk. ● in relation to animals used for research, all applications to conduct research are run past an Ethics Committee, and if that research has been done anywhere else in the world, the research will not be approved. The rspca does have a Chief Scientific Officer but that person is not an expert in the field that may be the subject of the research application. The rspca should leave matters of this nature to the experts who have been dealing with the scenario of using animals for scientific research purposes for a very long time. ● why is there no ACCOUNTABILITY applicable to the rspca, they are answerable to no one, even in the area of prosecutions. There is no rspca Ombudsman where you can lodge a complaint if you feel you have been unfairly treated, or targeted by the rspca. When pursuing prosecutions rspca Inspectors are Officers of the Crown, and as such, should be accountable for their actions. Yet they are not. You can't even complain to the Minister. Further, why aren't the rspca accountable for every animal they seize? Once seized, an animal becomes the property of the Crown, yet animals are being seized by the rspca and are somehow just disappearing? Never to be seen again. ● the rspca at Pearcedale recently sold an undesexed pedigree dog, why would they do this? In the past they have only ever sold desexed dogs, are they cost cutting? or knowingly and willingly putting dogs capable of being bred from back out into the marketplace? ● why is the rspca allowed to wear their uniform when appearing in court to prosecute a case? Any prosecution they do, is as a representative of the Crown NOT as a representative of the rspca. This give a misleading view to the public that the rspca are prosecuting the accused. They are NOT. The Inspectors are in court as a representative of the Crown and should be suitably attired. This also serves as a form of 'advertising' for the rspca, and the privilege of representing the Crown should not be abused. 4 ● a registered Charity who is in the 'business' of selling dogs and cats, should NOT have any powers of prosecution. This is a massive CONFLICT OF INTEREST whereby they can actually put people or businesses who are also selling cats and dogs, out of business. ● a recent case in Victoria that is going to court involved many pedigreed dogs being seized by the rspca and kept for 12 months before charges were laid on the alleged offender. When the charges were finally received by the alleged offender, 12 months after the seizure, they contained photographic evidence of so-called abuse to dogs. One of the 'offences' was failure to provide veterinary attention because the dogs had worms. It is not against the law (POCTA) to not worm your dogs, unless they are at death's door with a massive worm burden. The photos included with the charge sheet were not dated and could have been taken at any time in the preceeding 12 months, they could have even been taken the day before the charges were received by the alleged offender. This is NOT good enough, proceedures must be followed in such a manner as Police would conduct an investigation. The rspca has the capacity to ruin people's lives, and these duties should not be taken lightly, or abused or manipulated. ● a recent rspca "kennel cleanout" was selling all dogs, cats, horses, pigs and goats for $29. Any animal that was normally priced under $29 was FREE. This category included rabbits, guinea pigs, roosters, pigeons, pet rats and mice .. how is this "responsible" or ethical when it incourages "impulse buys" if you can get an small animal for FREE or a horse for $29. Were the rspca emptying their kennels to sweeten their figures, and make them appear to be more like a no-kill rescue? and therefore gain more public favour? ● what action can you take when the rspca comes onto your property and is cruel to your own animals? None. A case going to court very soon in Victoria involves some stray horses who were in poor condition, being let onto, or breaking into a woman's property. The rspca arrived to seize the horses, who were now mixed in with her own horses, and as they were rounding them up, one of the rspca Inspectors belted the woman's own pony across the head, she had to be forcibly restrained by the Police. She then began videoing everything taking place and one of the rspca Inspectors said to her "you video this, you will never see your horses again". Unconsciable. ● in another recent case, the rspca were raiding a property occupied by a woman and her octogenarian mother. They seized horses, ponies, a couple of pet dogs and some very highly priced pedigreed cats who were kept in very good accommodation. When seizing the octogenarian's personal pet cat OFF HER LAP, the old lady lost it and reached up to grab a handful of the Inspector's hair - could you blame her? - the rspca had her charged with assault, took her to court and she now has a criminal record. These Inspectors have no "people skills", that is not a satisfactory way to treat an octogenarian, then to press charges and make her go through the court system is bullying to the extreme. Especially when the rspca's own Charter says : Point 11 : The State shall enact and enforce laws, regulations and codes for protecting animals from exploitation, and for ensuring that their basic individual needs are maintained at all times and that their environment is kept free from ILLEGAL or IRRESPONSIBLE INTRUSION (my emphasis/capitalisation). Whilst the rspca Charter cannot be referred to in any prosecution matter, as all prosecutions are done in the name of the Crown, it does seem that the rspca are more than happy to act, and are very capable of conducting themselves in a way that exhibits blatant defiance of the rules they would like us all to obey ie their rules, their Charter. ● what becomes of the funding the Victorian Government gives to the rspca? In 2015 they received $3,250,000. In 2016 they received a further $3,000,000 in new funding to be applied to establishing a Task Force to address Puppy Farms. How many Puppy Farms have been closed down as a result of this new funding? One has to question the efficacy of the rspca in achieving their oft stated purpose of closing down Puppy Farms, when we very seldom hear of any being shut down. ● why is rspca Vic so secretive about their future developments? In their report to the Charities Commission last year (a report is required to be submitted annually), under the heading of Future Developments, they stated .. "Disclosure of information regarding likely 5 developments of the consolidated entity (rspca Vic) in future financial years, and the expected results of those operations IS LIKELY TO RESULT IN UNFAVORABLE PREJUDICE to the consolidated entity. Accordingly, this information has not been disclosed in this report". What could the rspca possibly do that would result in unfavorable prejudice being directed against them? ● how can a "Charity" maintain its Not-For-Profit Charity status with the Charities Commission (ACNC) when it has so many different business arms? When registering with the Charities Commission, which is a federal body, an organisation must state it's "main aim". The Victorian rspca has stated it's main aim under the Entity Subtype as an animal rescue organisation who is involved in "the prevention and relieving of suffering of animals". Where do all its other business arms fit into this category ie boarding kennels, grooming salons, pet insurance, Approved Farming Scheme, and Crown prosecutions. All of these activities, whilst they are involved with animals, general income, and as such, should be taxable like any other business activity. These additional business activities are not what the general public traditionally associate with the functions of the rspca. ● the ATO (Australian Tax Office) says in relation to a Not-For-Profits Animal Rescue Charity .. Making A Profit "a not-for-profit can make a profit, but any profit made must be used for its purpose(s). It can keep profits as long as there is a genuine reason for this and it is to do with its purpose. For example, a good reason to keep profits may be to save up for starting a new project, building new infrastructure or accumulating a reserve so it continues to be sustainable. If an organisation continues to hold onto significant profits indefinitely, without using them for its charitable purpose, this may suggest that the organisation is not working solely towards it's stated charitable purpose (and is not operating as a not-forprofit)". RSPCA Victoria in 2015 stated on their financial reports that they held $52,913,000 in total assetts (including plant, equipment and property). In 2016 this had dropped to $49,612,000. The decrease can be attributed to a court ordered payment of $1.45 million damages after they were found to be "negligent" in the shooting of 131 purebred Murray Grey cattle (more about this later). So it can be seen that their enormous reserves of cash, stocks and other investments, and assetts stay pretty much the same from year to year. Why does a Not-For-Profit Charity need to accumulate to an enormous amount of reserve, and in remaining at such a high level consistently, aren't they in violation of the ATO's definition of a Not-For-Profit Charity? ● how does a Charity, who in pursuit of their duties of enforcing POCTA, and therefore being a representative of the Crown, when it conducts itself in such a manner that they are sued, found guilty of NEGLIGENCE, and ordered to pay $1.4 million damages to the owner of the cattle, SUFFER NO CONSEQUENCE from the Crown, in relation to its behaviour? Any other public servant, such as Police, Customs Officer or government employee would surely be dismissed from his position and perhaps lose pension benefits for bringing such disrepute upon his employer, but not so an rspca employee. How is this so? To tell the whole story of the shooting of the 131 head of Murray Grey cattle, we must look at the employment history of the rspca Inspector who shot them, his name is Inspector Jason Nicholls. In June 1999 Inspector Jason Nicholls was at a drought stricken 1,280 hectare property owned by Victorian farmer Finlay Glynn Robertson. Robertson had already been prosecuted by the rspca for cruelty and when he came across Inspector Jason Nicholls taking video footage of his drought affected sheep, he snapped and shot at Nicholls hitting him once and as Nicholls fled to his vehicle further shots were fired, shattering his windscreen as he drove off. Findlay Robertson was arrested by Police, charged with attempted murder and jailed. In December 1999 while still in jail awaiting trial Robertson died of a heart attack. The rspca sued Finlay Robertson's estate and in 2003 were awarded $53,000 damages for economic loss caused by the shooting. Moving forward to 2005, Inspector Nicholls was responsible for the shooting of 131 purebred Murray Grey cattle who he deemed to have been in emaciated condition. Various witnesses, including abbatoir workers at the processing facility where the cattle were taken said that the condition of the cattle did not warrant them being killed. In 2005 the RSPCA prosecuted the breeders for breaches of the Prevention of 6 Cruelty to Animals Act in the Ballarat Magistrates Court. The magistrate dismissed the charges. A long battle ensued, resulting in a May 2015 finding that the rspca were 'negligent' in shooting the cattle, and they were ordered to pay the owner $1.45 million damages. In this case, the rspca attempted to argue that they "were not responsible for tne actions of its Inspectors". The Judge gave this manouvre short shrift, nevertheless the rspca's position is disturbing. The rspca enjoys a privileged position, it is a private organisation which exercises legal powers conferred by the Crown ie the Parliament. The idea that it was not responsible for the consequences of its employee exercising these powers is one which out to be of great concern to governments and the community generally. This case against the owners of a farm in drought conditions, was the first time the rspca was forced to pay for its abuse of its privileged position. Inspector Jason Nicholls is still currently employed by the rspca even though he has cost his employer $1.45 million damages and a charge of negligence in the provision of prosecutor ill services. ● in 2010 rspca Victoria charged Andrew Duff, a barrier stall worker at Warrnambool with animal cruelty for removing a horse injured in the first lap of a jumps race to prevent the risk of further accidents when the remaining horses raced around the track for the second lap. If found guilty, Mr. Duff faced the possibility of up to 12 months jail or a $14,000 fine and banishment from working with animals for 10 years. The rspca did not charge Racing Victoria or the Warrnambool Racing Club. The opinion of Professor Paul McGreevy, a veterinary ethologist at the University of Sydney and well-known antiracing campaigner upon which the rspca relied, was dismissed by three leading equine veterinarians. According to journalist Patrick Barley, who won a media award for a story about this affair, ‘they blasted the rspca’s prosecution brief as curious, obsessive, lacking serious firsthand experience of handling injured or distressed horses, and a philosophical or political intrusion'. Two years later the rspca dropped the case, thereby avoiding the possibility of being required to pay Mr Duff’s legal costs, including the cost of the senior barrister he had to engage. The rspca did not apologise for the pain and suffering it inflicted on Mr. Duff or for his face being plastered over hundreds of anti-jumps posters that lined the entry gates to major Spring Carnival race meetings. ● the time has come for the Dept of Agriculture to take direct control of any prosecution in relation to POCTA, and set up new systems and structures for the enforcement of POCTA, because the rspca has a long term history of abusing this privileged position of power. The rspca has lost credibility across the board, as evidenced by its high levels of staff turnover, and its ever decreasing membership support, because it does not apply the standards it seeks to enforce on others, to its own organisation. Rspca Victoria states it's mission as: "to improve the welfare of animals through leadership, collaboration with stakeholders, and the provision of quality services". So many of its actions would indicate it is failing badly in every aspect of its Mission Statement. 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they have extended the deadling till this friday. Please dont miss this opportunity. this guy has now learned more about helplessness and like many is not in a fit condition for the lesson. https://www.facebook.com/RSPCAabuse/ https://external-syd2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/safe_image.php?d=AQBasTSdsBrRA_JP&w=296&h=222&url=https%3A%2F%2Fscontent-syd2-1.xx.fbcdn.net%2Fv%2Ft1.0-0%2Fp296x100%2F17522716_1473156686036054_1993805096966997354_n.jpg%3Foh%3D54522d05743da12315e029845762da78%26oe%3D59658CD1&cfs=1&upscale=1&_nc_hash=AQCiotKhUQbMk4qc https://www.gofundme.com/litigate-for-release-of-rosie On the 10th of March 2017, "Rose" a PTSD Therapy Dog & 4 other Maremma Sheep dogs were ILLEGALLY taken from my Friends Property. He caught the Theft on Video. But it wasn't what you may think!! It was an Illegal RSPCA Raid. Now his Dogs are being Ransomed by the RSPCA @ $700 per week, until the LEGAL status of the Dogs is Established. I & many other Friends & Strangers have Supported this cause & now with dwindling resources, need to Seek sufficient Funds to Fight a Battle against what appears to be a Vexatious & Corrupt Organisation, operating under the Banner of a Respecrable Operation. Funds Raise will be used to litigate the matters Raised by the RSPCA Of SA & at conclusion any Residual funds will be Forwarded to Willow Shelter. On the 10th of March 2017, "Rose" a PTSD Therapy Dog & 4 other Maremma Sheep dogs were ILLEGALLY taken from my Friends Property. He caught the Theft on Video. But it wasn't what you may think!! It was an Illegal RSPCA Raid. Now his Dogs are being Ransomed by the RSPCA @ $700 per week, until the LEGAL status of the Dogs is Established. I & many other Friends & Strangers have Supported this cause & now with dwindling resources, need to Seek sufficient Funds to Fight a Battle against what appears to be a Vexatious & Corrupt Organisation, operating under the Banner of a Respecrable Operation. Funds Raise will be used to litigate the matters Raised by the RSPCA Of SA & at conclusion any Residual funds will be Forwarded to Willow Shelter.

well at least its not just show dog breeders. Not that many seem to have listened to her either, the mess that is the halter qh shows its across all show breeding at least this colt can breathe even if it can never run without pain once the arthritis sets in https://equineink.com/2011/04/24/have-halter-horses-become-the-bodybuilders-of-the-equine-world/

DARNED pretty. although I have reins made from the same material and boy my dogs think they are perfect chew toy so dont leave it anywhere your dog can play with it when not in use or your will be needing to order a new one

I am amazed there is such a law, but noticing you are in Victoria, perhaps I shouldnt considering the inanely stupid stuff your pollies pass down there, (thinking their one that made it illegal to show a Victorian born and owned dog debarked in another state, yet perfectly legal to show a debarked dog otherwise, have to wonder how many pollies were asleep at the wheel that day and wonder what else rubbish they have) this one seems to fit the parameter too? have any of the other states done this too? I would be heading down to a few shops and seeing what they have in stock, some have a huge range and some have a few. Perhaps the greyhound type ones would be best, fine wire and barely visible and very light

I had to laugh, your so right, we had poodles, Mine was a toy, as was my brothers, but Mum had a silver Standard. my only gripe was you could kiss 4 hours goodbye in one grooming session you just got so engrossed in getting it spot on so your dog looked glorious, you lost all sense of time. Mum in particular although my boy pickle didn't, he decided I had one hour and that was it. Took me a while to twig, he had his own clock and nope once that hour was up he would look me in the eye and say times up! or else, the growl would escalate by every minute over my allotted time until the family would yell out, let him alone for gods sake we cant stand the noise

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/canine-corner/201404/designer-dog-maker-regrets-his-creation What he didnt realise, purebred poodles are used as guide dogs in France and apparently America too. he didn't need to cross breed.. " German Shepherd Dogs, Labrador Retrievers, Golden Retrievers, and Lab-Golden crosses are some of the most common kinds of dogs used as guide dogs. Standard Poodles are also used sometimes for people who have allergies. Guide dog trainers consider a breed's characteristics when pairing dogs with people, and they pair more active breeds with active people. "For a successful team to work out, it is really a lot about the bond between the dog and the human handler," Guide Dogs of America's Bernson explains."

think this one is my Pick of what has been received, Considering how many people I know with complaints I am suprised how few have taken the opportunity to write, n yes I have send mine. may be the only chance too https://www.parliament.vic.gov.au/images/stories/committees/SCEI/RSPCA/Submissions/Submission_18-Maitland_Lawyers.pdf

https://www.parliament.vic.gov.au/eic/article/3129 Judging by the submission so far received, there is pretty few actually addressing the massive problems inherit from a group that are out to end breeding in this country, who do not work with the ANK'S or the owners of animals they treat like criminals. It was reported on a facebook page one CEO envisions them becoming the one stop shop for a pet not only to rehome but breed their own. also hearing they are not just seizing the animals but all the breeders records and pedigrees? since when was a pedigree registration classifyable as an animal in need of seizure and treatment? some even saying their computers were taken? whats going on with rspca inc? apparently people from other states are sending submissions, so if you have a question and want to ask it, now is your chance, dont let it pass you by. may be too late for a second chance to become available

at the present moment cant remember where I read it last night, but an rspca spokesperson was quoted as saying the RSPCA'S intention was to supply the pet market in future instead of puppy farms. they already have the runs on the board selling endorsements for chicken farms and the like already will hunt and see if I can find it later tonight, otherwise has anyone else seen it? Found it on a Facebook page. so not sure if its OK to put the writers names. so just copy and past what was being said if you like? " Agree... they have moved away from beliefs years ago.. it was obviously when I was there..and has since gotten dramatically worse. As far as a charity when I started in the 80's they were.. now.. they certainly are Not! " "Tania the CEO of Queensland quite openly stated a couple of months ago that "it is our aim in the future, that anyone in Australia who buys a puppy will buy it from us". I sat in stunned silence for 2 days after hearing of this. The ramifications are ENORMOUS. This must not be allowed to happen under any circumstances." " One of our vets had already suggested rspca wanted to breed their own. My mother said it right from the beginning, and those of us that had our pedigrees stolen with our animals are now thinking on the same lines. What is stopping them from making up their own data base. They already change micro chip ownership details." "Exactly and they seize the pedigrees to go with them"

A friend used to breed Himalayan cats, she tried to stop them removing from the standard "pleasant expression" after the flat faced gargoyle cats began to appear and their breeders were having trouble winning because they sure do NOT have a pleasant expression. first we need to educate breeders and judges to start rewarding health instead of extremes, how that can be achieved is the challange. Karen Hedberg is a vet and breeds French bulldogs. would love to know her opinion and breeding program

Interesting article. but no hint at encouraging breeders to select away from the flat faces that I could recognise. http://www.dogworld.co.uk/story.php/176760/ The comments section at the end are well worth the read too. Bravo to this lady, thought I would post it in case u miss it, Linda Kitson · The University of Melbourne You are 100% right. We are facing the same battle here in Victoria, Australia, with s government trying to introduce legislation that will effectively end both pedigree dog and cat breeding, whilst st exactly the same time as in the UK (coincidence, I think not!!!) we have had an attack on the brachy breeds launched here by the AVA and the RSPCA. We need to all stand strong and united. We in the cat fancy here in vic are united with the dog groups,sharing ideas and information and I think that us what you will need to do there too - the AR agenda is clear - they have a motto here of one by one until there are none. And if people stick their heads in the sand and think they aren't after me or my breed, then think again - they don't care how many you have, they don't care what breed they are, they don't even care how impeccably they are kept. If you are a breeder, that is enough for them Like · Reply · 8 · Mar 15, 2017 7:07pm

there is a video on facebook with Karen Hedberg with a group of french bulldogs anyone know how to find it? I will try but dont seem to have much success finding stuff on faceplant once its disappeared off my page found it, thanks Baronia, I didnt spot you had when I found and posted it too. think both of us broke a record finding it

sometimes its not such a good idea to mask pain entirely, otherwise they wont rest the injoured area.

Valbitz, from what you said, you seem to have already made judgement, anyone who doesnt call and continue to call has lost the right to their dog. is what I read you as saying. the dogs were chipped they were paid up, their owners had every reason to believe they would be contacted. I have had a dog disappear in one case two on the same day and although the council was notified it was missing not once was I notified by council. in every instance it was by a vet who someone had taken the dog too, who then phoned me to pick it up. not once was the dog sent to the pound by the vet it was taken too for identification by the finder. As for one I bred who was chipped and fully registered to her owner, she was held for 3 months while they wrote and phoned the owner., I happened to be at the pound that day and my daughter recognised the dog as one we had bred, checked with the office and she was abut to be put down that day at midday, so we bought her and took her home, it was amazing when we let her go, she was 2 years old and ran to the gate to be let in with her mum, never did find her old owner, a neighbour suspected might have died, just never came home and then the house was up for sale, never saw anyone come to the house so had no idea what had happened

so anyone know what has happened? surely this isnt going to have to be dragged through the courts and the dogs die of old age? process was not done so Victoria should be making sure that so called rescue is sending them back to their legal owner?

THE problem was the hot days, the owners took them to the markets instead of keeping them home. considering how few days were actually that hot, they sure paid a 365 days a year penalty. nothing not even fans was going to prevent the outcry , those days were horrible, I had sprinklers going on my cook shed and my dogs yard. nothing like that was available at parklea. Our produce store a few years ago began to have budgies and little parrots and canaries available for sale, bred by people who bought their seed from them. someone called the rspca who began to give him the rounds of the kitchen re cage sizes and constant cleaning, I saw them the cages were clean, all animals go to the loo. anyway he decided he didn't like how rudely he was treated so the owners of the birds were asked to take them elsewhere. another opportunity to buy direct from the breeder instead of a pet shop gone

Pity it isnt that simple, feral animal particularly pigs are very hard to eradicate, many are caught by trapping, but hunting is also needed some are too cunning to go into the traps. feral pigs are dangerous. I suspect from this line of thinking eradicating ferals animals will also be ultimately banned on the grounds of cruelty. although any farmer faced with the damage they do and the younstock killed will be the losers. Although since so many seem to think all livestock should be phased out as increasingly the press releases are the cruelty of breeding animals that will be slaughtered is cruel. crops dont give gory shots when they are torn to bits by feral pigs so I suppose the farmes left to grow crops will just have to build some darned good fencing if they want to harvest a crop in the 3000"s

different as chalk and cheese to what is called a german shepherd now. this must have been filmed quite a while ago before the ski back arrived? http://www.burkesbackyard.com.au/fact-sheets/pets/pet-road-tests/dogs/white-shepherd/#.WMkZTqLfqUk

your logic is tantalizing and the blanket covering is the animals, all must suffer to protect the animals. those 90% are to be denied their right to innocence and treated as potentially or are. guilty as well, to clean out the 10% of scumbags? if you truly believe that logic then all parents should have their children taken from them to ensure no child is at risk of the 10% of parents who abuse and kill their children. As I recall the last time that was in operation its now called the era of the stolen generations? because a percentage of men kill and rape, all need to be locked up and/or castrated? same logic, except human children are collateral damage, women killed or maimed just another case of collateral damage (sure know the culture the woman must have asked or it by the way she dressed or behaved, good old blame culture alive and well) but chuck in the word fur baby and EEEK! all animal owners must be micromanaged or lose their fur baby for its own safety and if you dare ask why the emperor has no clothes, you, like I will be, said to have proven your unfit to speak

Although in this case the dogs are australian born, were chipped, WERE registered yet I bet they were sold to the so called rescue and yep on sold for a tidy profit which is exactly what the rspca are into as well these days judging by the increasing number of people complaining their dogs and cats were taken and either sold or destroyed while they were fighting to get them back. all the worry about backyard breeders and the elephant in the room is the the so called welfare industry seizing, buying, getting by whatever means saleable dogs from their legal owners and cough "rehoming" at a profit The list of heartreak storyies is constantly growing on this fb website https://www.facebook.com/groups/1083536528374841/?multi_permalinks=1348473458547812&notif_t=group_highlights&notif_id=1489291691133802

AND note, he wasnt microchipped. that I believe applies to the majority of dogs in this country. stupid stupid pollies, busy passing laws to stop puppy farms, to micromange the idiots who do the right thing and register their dogs and do follow the ever increasing rules being used to smother those who try to keep their breed going. the dogs filling the pounds are the ones comming from the invisibles and it will be the invisibles that keep dogs and dog breeds going. the KCC's will implode, there are less and less members and less and less main registered puppies every year.

no body today would admit their dog is a pitty. looking at the photos of the dog, if that is Buddy, he is identical to the puppies I was asked to chip whose proud owner said they were pure red nosed pitties. but that was before bsl. I dont know about any one here, has anyone ever seen a staffie that that colour? english staffy I mean. americn staffy and pit bull are one in the same in america, many are double registered, funny how a trip overseas to the land of oz they become seperate breeds even x 's from my days of breeding I only see that colouring when the dog has the gold gene and two chocolate genes, anyone seen a different gentic combination to get the same look? either way, in such an awful situation that occured that day, I dont know what the reaction of any dog would have been regardless of breed