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Interesting article....n I was told by a then member of RSPCA NSW in 2000 the membership and AGM voting had been stacked and now controlled by peta. love the take on the "Niall Blair, saw through this and ordered the process to start again " only took a few, ie TWENTY TWO thousand members of dogs nsw to get it through to him he had been hoodwinked... before he changed his mind about signing off on it though, then promised to engage more knowledgeable advisers (ie practicing veterinarians) and assistance before blanketing all and sundry as would have been, if he had shoved it through. https://www.smh.com.au/national/we-should-be-promoting-pet-ownership-not-making-it-more-difficult-20180423-p4zb4v.html?fbclid=IwAR0RHdZ814M1dDj12gEM5S_mjuIk9nRRacHJqMF-ueqcBlIJviCN1CMhOaA THE BELOW LINK is in, the above story. but it came so close to becoming law, PETA must be utterly furious they failed, so close to success. https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/many-pet-owners-to-be-classified-as-pet-shops-under-proposals-20180406-p4z82d.html Meanwhile Victoria has the lovely peta hugger Jaala Pulford.... busy.doing her best to do their bidding. Kindly never forget this state has it law that you can serve ten years in jail for showing your dog if it was born in Victoria and debarked in another state if it belongs to a Victorian.... but any interstate owned or bred debarked dog can attend the same show????? This law has not been repealed either... a gotta love stupidity where ever we find it eh? did a little and I do mean a little, googling.... my goodness. https://www.markmaldridge.com/RSPCA-V-May.html?fbclid=IwAR3JSyV4XlOKY1Xc_VQO73x51QOBADav1oBP1LE336W2kA2OwGa91X7NOoA

think these headlines are england but would love to know the figures for Australia No stats exist even,or im not looking in the right places, not good press so they aren't easy to find.. my friend Nancy's friend walked from her home after her chihuahua's were taken, she had 9, all problem one's, so her breeder friends gave them to her, rather than re home them to pet homes, many so tiny hypoglycemia was an ever present problem. rspca decided she was a hoarder and took them all.... she never came back... a year later she was seen living on the streets of Sydney but fled when she realised she had been recognised... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2334136/SPECIAL-INVESTIGATION-Five-suicides-One-common-thread-They-fell-foul-RSPCA.html?fbclid=IwAR2NRblCednnmvikP025m_Sh3ZI2nvAnLP20rWRHjKNwXOpx9iPzzEXdVH8

I still remember the Victorian lady who rehomed one of her Lhasa Apso's Characteristics: Gay, assertive, but chary of strangers ... an Australian Champion.... so well used to being handled by strangers. its new owners took it to their local vet who was linked to the rspca...' the dog made the fatal mistake of adhering to its breed standard.... no problems in its new home or people.... let the vet know it didnt like the vet.... vet talked them into putting it down. A significant number of breeds are "suspicious of Strangers"....... many even note it in the standard.... so? better get cracking and breed that out. seems its OK to have a palette so long half needs to be cut out, nose to be cut so air can get in, so the dog can actually breathe as was seen this week for the french bulldog in Vet On The Hill... so he could play without needing to be carried home or risk suffocation? . lots needs to be changed but how fast that can happen is moot!

SADLY. I recall the lady who had all her cattledog's taken , Victoria I think it was, was also looking after a friends kelpie bitch and her puppies.... I'm pretty sure both the kelpie and all her puppers were not returned and were all desexed... so depend's on in which state? perhaps?

considering they know who the mum is, there is no way the pup is a dingo. the chances of the dad being anything but carrying part dingo is so low the question of the percentage is academic

someone came up with rather a brilliant idea the other night. DO not own your animal...... any of your animals.. Register it in someone else's name and look after it for them.... remember the only bull terriers that were returned belonged to people who did not live there, that had been left for matings............................... this is now our brave new world to negotiate best you can

I just saw Amanda Knox. amazing lady, she made me realise this is the new world we live in now..... how to manage to survive in this world is what so many need to learn.. me included. my crime I was accused of was so spiffing compared to the living nightmare she endured......... but strangely although never charged,.....never convicted........ even got the target, (my dog back) even 18 years later members of this forum still feel they can insinuate I probably deserved what happened........... There are going to be tens of thousands yearly need to learn how this system works.... http://www.amandaknox.com/the-scarlet-letter-reports/ So much to take in. one bit...... amanda knox In this episode of The Scarlet Letter Reports, I tell the story of how my own character was assassinated in the media when I was arrested and put on trial for a crime I didn’t commit. In 2007, I was just another twenty-year-old college student studying abroad in Perugia, Italy. One night, a local burglar named Rudy Guede broke into the apartment I shared with three other young women, and murdered the only one of us who was home at the time—Meredith Kercher. For the next eight years, Meredith’s murder made international headlines, but for all the worldwide attention the case received, few people have ever heard of Rudy Guede. That’s because the investigators, prosecutors, media, and public focused their attention, instead, on me. My boyfriend, Raffaele Sollecito, and I were hastily arrested. The prosecution and tabloid media cast me as a femme fatale, a sex-crazed she-devil who murdered my roommate in a drug- and/or jealousy-fueled rage during a sex game gone wrong. It didn’t matter that I had zero history of violence or mental illness or criminal behavior, and that exactly zero DNA evidence placed me at the scene of the crime. The prosecution and the tabloids had already created “Foxy Knoxy”—a figure onto which people could project their fears and fantasies, particularly those surrounding female sexuality, and that was enough to convict us. Raffaele and I survived four years in prison and eight years on trial. In March 2015, we were found innocent by the Italian Supreme Court. To this day, I combat harassment and attacks on my character on a regular basis. I get through it by thinking hard about the forces that lead to our dehumanization, how those forces affect other individuals in similar situations, and what we can do to stop our lives and our identities from being stolen from us.

WONDER what happened to the OP? hope the pup is ok

Yes, my friend Les's black and tan kelpies produced,, blue, chocolate, lilac(same shade as the weimarinar breed), cream and gold, sometimes all of these colours in the same litter.

problem with that is if the kelpie is her dad dingo will come up anyway

Australian Champion Pureheel Royal Echo, howls and yodels with the best............ perfectly named, he is a purebred registered Australian Cattle dog....

my neighbour had a purebred dingo pup, her hubby was a semi driver and rescued her from a pub where one of the drinkers had found them and brought them in to show off before he killed them... she was a great girl and very friendly.. her only crime was she could pop a six foot fence and loved the neighbours chickens for lunch on occasion. people forget they were brought here by the aborigines remember? they were domesticated , both Kelpies and cattledogs have dingo in them. so she could look like a purebred from a kelpie dad.

Yes the tv might help, my sons dogs are petrified of storms and cracker night... so for new years I was dogsitting them, tv was on a movie and they could hear the fireworks, so changed channels and when the tv channel flipped to the fireworks display on the harbour bridge.... they curled up beside the tv and didnt notice a thing coming from all the racket going on out in the street. yet to me the racket on the tv was the same but no, didn't bother them at all thanks to the tv. sometimes you just never know what will work. case of keep trying to see what works

I have seen it myself, our neighbour was said to be in a coma beyond knowing anyone was there... I asked him would he like to see fluffy, he nodded... We used to bring her for visits as he hated the nursing home so. she would cheer him up no end along with every patient who could pat her. so went home brought fluffy and again when we arrived the doctor said its too late.. fluffy sniffed and nuzzled him and slowly his hand rose from his side to slide up her face and fondle her face and ears..... not sure who was going to faint first, the doctor or his son and grandkids. She gave Lenny so much pleasure in the years before we had to say goodbye. it was beautiful to see his happiness,,, he had a smile on his face and a light of happiness. After he became too tired and went back to sleep, she did the rounds of the patients waiting to see her too... she was so gentle with everyone. she was one hot tomalie when you were riding her though. this is fluffy at the State Sporting. see she sure could derby. She and her rider are 18... we had this wonderful welshie until she was 36 ... her best friend Rahma, is 34 and still going well... took Rahm's to the medieval fair at Bowral and went in the skill at Arms... our combined age was 103.. .. she is by a welsh dad from an arabian mum Our pets can take us such wonderful places, this was a best day with puppies and Chris Brown , Amanda Keller and the Living room , HEAPS OF PUPPIES 11 of them took over the studio, Gee Chris is tall. you wont see this again in your life time I suspect... the bay mare is Bea Bea, her two daughters are identical twins, we sure were not expecting twins. Let alone identical. They keep us sane while the world tries to overwhelm us, dont they. the tough bit is the knowledge that everyone of them can be taken by a moron, (with none of the qualifications of their vets with BV.Sc after their names) and killed if they so decide, because they have "formed the opinion" to do so. Before anyone starts on my fragile mental state. How did it get that way? I was with Marion Alcorn in 1995 when three times she was told if she signed her ten arabians over, "they would be found good homes" She signed them over. The man who had "formed the opinion " to seize them the day he took them was present as well... No 14 days to comply, he arrived, they were taken. Not heresay I was there with Marion when she was promised. I was also present at McGrath's Hill sales when that same man walked into the ring and told the auctioneer "You are only to accept bids from the doggers" then he turned on his heel and as he strode away finished "and they are all mad." Again Not Heresay... I was there.. He "formed the opinion" all should die. Despite the promise his superiors had made in his presence, only 5 days before. Marion received a phone call that same Saturday. Advising her all ten had been slaughtered for dog meat. When in fact all ten, were still very much alive, although we failed to save the Crenel colt. He was slaughtered after being trucked to Queensland..........The dogger who bought him refused to resell...... She never answered a phone again for over 20 years..... Weak minded? broken certainly. The man who "formed the opinion" that day, is now CEO of RSPCA NSW! There is still no avenue of appeal either? why is that so? Stringy was just the icing on the cake, showing me no one is safe.......no matter how healthy their pet is. Remember Marion's horses next time one of you is tempted to throw at anyone, that stupid line they never act unless "where there's smoke there's fire!"

Pretend she is a dog.... wonderful story. they mean so much to us, they help us so much. I have a friend whose husband has ptsd from war, one hour with our welsh Cob and he went weeks without a panic attack... they are great helps too..... click on the pic... it enlarges....stunningly Three years ago my husband Randy asked for a headstone for Christmas. I asked for a Wall. He also wanted me to sell his beloved Horse; Shadow. He had one request; before we sell her; he wanted pictures of her. I had Crista Everly come out and take the pictures. ( the first two pictures are Crista's Creation, aren't they beautiful?) And like most things Randy tells me to do, I did the opposite. I refused to sell the horse. Here is the story of the Other Female in my husbands life. The Other Female~ D.M. Eich My husband was given 7 months to live in June 2014. When my husbands Cancer was found one of the first suggestions; by I pray; well meaning individuals; was when you gonna get rid of your horse? The questions shocked both of us. Again well meaning individuals told my husband the whole list of cant's that he wont be able to do after surgery. Can't Ride horses; or be around them. They may kick you! You'll be frail and they will run over you. You'll never ride again. If you fall; your a goner for sure. So many well meaning individuals successfully filled my husband with fear. Just when I thought he needed to keep working with his horse he told me to sell his horse. He bought into the can't. In fact he wanted one last picture with her before he died. We both bawled like babies the day the photographer took the Picture of him and Shadow. I refused to sell the horse. For almost 6 months he sat in his recliner, hating life, hating the disease and probably most of all hating me for refusing to sell his girl; Shadow. We fought constantly. I chose to do the opposite, I brought her home and put her in the front yard where he could see her everyday. He'd call out she needs food, water ,love, brushing! I refused. I told him to do it; it was his horse! All I heard was I can't. Now before you notify PETA and tell them I allowed the horse to be neglected I want to assure you she was well taken care of; he just didn't see me doing it. It took my husband a long time to take care of her. Sure he was slow but each day she helped him heal. She helped him emotionally and physically. Seeing my husband slowly rotting in a recliner was tough. Seeing him brushing and talking to his girl made my heart sing. He ordered her all kinds of horse gear and spent obscene amounts of money on the best feed, grooming supplies and tack. I didn't mind, the other Female was worth every penny. As his strength grew so did his confidence. Since his diagnosis we have ridden in many states. Deserts and Mountains; over hills and valleys. His passion for Horses has grown as our bank account has decreased. I don't mind though; I have a happy husband who has cancer; Cancer doesn't have him. The crazy weather in Missouri is in the 70's today. We set out early and he spent the beautiful day with his girls. Shadow and I. For those of you who have a love and a passion please don't let this disease take you from it. Live each day as the amazing gift it is. I can't imagine where we would be without the other Female in my husbands life. I am blessed. ~D.M. Eich; December 2014

I thought there was a huge problem considering all the press releases? none of the comments below are mine. deleted the names and links to the posters. This is an interesting graphic. If you compare this with the number of cruelty cases reported, the number of those that are actually investigated, and the number of convictions .. it shows that animal cruelty is actually a very tiny problem! Big money when everyone has pets , Manage 6.7 million pets and how many successful prosecutions in Victoria? Manage 10,642 cruelty reports .. resulting in 113 successful prosecutions. For 6.7 million animals. Showing that animal cruelty is actually a tiny TINY problem. Manage Incidents were reported for 1.06% of the pet population. Only 0.15% of complaints resulted in a conviction. Manage Which indicates that Animal Welfare in Victoria is actually in a very HEALTHY state, so no new laws, legislation or indeed any changes at all were needed. Now ain't that a very different picture to the one painted by the rspca?

thanks little gifts just had to add this.. so true... so beautiful ..... all creatures great and small

Yes, they came from rescues.... but someone bred them, hopefully with much love too......

another , the reason they own our hearts

Yet so many are doing this now? https://www.doglistener.co.uk/shock-admission-rspca-and-labradoodle-breeders-neutering-puppies-six-weeks-old?fbclid=IwAR3329S5QyGn81_Hgk8TX9x4dbokz-r7wHWgI8d4cxlG-uU3KaCSsUPYcFE https://dogsfirst.ie/health-issues/dog-neutering/

many people prefer when they have a long weekend, holidays due or school holidays due so they can be home all day for as many days as possible to bond with and give the new puppy their full attention while its settling in and learning where everything is..n establish a routine before they have to go back to work if they work.. the lucky ones work at home or can take their dog with them... that doesn't seem to be on the radar in that original post?

none of them are, some people have deliberately tested their pedigree purebred and all came back as x breds. n some not even the breed they actually were came up in the mix list., but its a bit of fun if you take it in that light

I have sent a letter to the board on the subject, I've been a member since 1978 and I know from so many places I've seen over the decades I know many show people kept their dogs in this way " to keep them clean" Some people know no better because that is how their parents kept them and their grandparents in many instances. hence my suggesting instead of fluff pieces, address the elephant in the room..... there have been huge changes in the past 40 years, dont assume all are up to date. with knowing that housing is not acceptable...... Not excusing those crates. but notice there was no mention of being told they were not acceptable, no time to comply exceeded.... simply raided and taken, with two options to decide.... fight in the courts or sign them over.... iTS ABOUT TIME our registeries realise they have more to be addressed than simply maintain a register for purebred dogs. At this rate there will be so few left the gene pool will be verging on extinction within 10 years. Seems the ANKC'S in America are catching on. Instead of just breed profiles and breeders in our magazines.... ... show photos of WHAT is not acceptable and photos of what is expected. you cant assume such a person intended to be cruel. many dogs out west live their lives chained to a hollow log on anything from a 6 foot to a 12 foot chain when they aren't off for a run. Or working. one night I held inside my jacket, an unwanted working kelpie pup who was the undersized last of her litter and no one wanted her, I happened to visit just as her breeder was about to shoot her,, .....its tough out west. it was night, she was black and tan and it wasn't until we were halfway home to Sydney I realised I was burning up with itchiness....nearly went nuts by the time we were home and I could check her out in the lights.... she was riddled with fleas.... had been regularly wormed and already vaccinated but he obviously didn't know he had a flea explosion. I rang him and he thanked me ... country people do not intend to be cruel... the log she was raised in had been cut by his father 80 years before. it was an excellent temperature controlled place to snooze on a 100+ deg F day. the old timers weren't stupid.... Today His sons dogs sleep on his bed and muscle him out of his own bed, so times have changed there. But we should not assume all are aware how much times have changed...... As for the Masters of the stand-over for decades. I saw for myself in 1995, when they asked the Magistrate could they please see if they could settle out of court and told Marion they would drop the $7,000 they had asked the court for agistment costs, for the ten weeks they had held her ten Arabians if she signed them over... They too were taken the day the special constable came to inspect them.. I have no idea what was actually said when he arrived. Marion said he had been so insulting she had ordered him off her land, she said he told her "I will show you what I can do" . Pulled out his mobile, made a call and before I could get there when she called me to come and help her.... A ten horse truck had arrived and took ten of her 27 Arabians.... I had been helping her feed and water them since they had arrived in two trucks from a western property in deep drought. so all were distressingly thin. Her home had 14 acres of grass to their knees but so many would have made short work of it in days, so I helped her put out feed bins for every one of the 27 for their individual feeds as well as bathtubs kept full of hay for between feeds and bathtubs full of water. as well as the creek at the bottom. So they well and truly had both food and water. Ten weeks later she received a summons to attend court and I went with her, so what happened is not Hearsay... I was present. They told Marion they would find her horses good homes if she signed them over.... she asked them three times and each time she was assured they would find them good homes..... so she signed, then we went back to the magistrate, They asked him to "drop the $7,000 agistment costs, BUT I still want to charge her for failure to worm the horses". No mention of this had been made during the conference... the Magistrate, just like the adds running at the time said "Its a crime not to worm your" and he said "horses" instead of "dogs" as was in the add. The penalty being $7,000 with three months to pay. or face arrest and Jail ...... (except? they had been seized the day he arrived she had no opportunity to comply?) Marion was pretty much in shock from that point as she was spending every penny she had feeding the ones she still had to care for. I and a number of people rang every day after she signed them over, to be told every day that week, "they are not available for sale yet!" I rang again 9am Saturday morning and again received the same reply.. Annoyed I replied, "that's not true I was there when they were signed over on Tuesday!" I could almost feel the lady on the switch give a shurg and then said "I suppose it wont hurt to tell you, they went to McGrath's Hill sales this morning". I dropped the phone like a hot potato and rang everyone I knew would be willing to bid for them and took off as soon as I could. When I arrived they had not been sold yet..... shortly the first Mare was run into the ring, Little Raggy, (cant remember her registered name.) the tall Red haired special constable who had seized them and also had been present in the room when Marion had been assured they would be found good homes, strode into the ring. He addressed the auctioneer directly telling him "you are to only accept bids from the dogger's." turned on his heel and as he walked out added "and their all mad". I dispute that, I had helped Marion with all of them with no trouble from them which included loading and unloading them on my horse float to ensure they had good manners. They comprised three young colts, three fillies and four adult broodmares. The Crenel colt was sold to the Queensland dogger. all the rest were bought by Luddenham Knackery. when the Luddenham dogger began bidding I raced over to him and asked him to buy them for me and would be happy to pay whatever profit he wanted... he told me not to worry, he had had a phone call from Doug who couldn't make it.. (one of the people who I had called) so he bought tt the broodmares who had been first to the auctioned, then the Crenel Colt came in and before I could realise what was happening he was knocked down to the Queensland dogger...... I asked Doug's friend why didn't you bid? He said Doug only said to buy the mares, so I asked him to buy all the rest for me , which he did. The Qld dogger wouldn't resell no matter what I offered him... so he went on a semi from nsw to Qld to his death... by the time I had arranged transport and payment for all mine it was dark and despite many phone calls to Marion she never answered her phone. So I went to her home next morning to tell her all but one are safe. Except although I could hear her inside the house she would not answer the door nor speak to me. just kept sobbing . She never answered her phone in the following 3 months, the rspca never once came to check on the remaining 17, although by ten weeks they were actually all in significantly better condition than the ones I had bought at the auction....... So whenever I could I would drop by her place and try to get her to answer the door but she wouldn't, would just get hysterical and crying... finally one day I spotted her bringing groceries home from the shops so she couldn't run, it was awful, just stood and sobbed. Finally got out of her she had received a phone call that Saturday, She was told they had all been slaughtered for dog meat... She was a wreak, terrified of everyone, including me. Took me years before she would answer the door to me if she was home when I knocked. Always scared, always afraid to answer the door, she became a shadow of the confidant woman who had helped RM Williams organise and run the first Tom Quilty 100 Mile Endurance ride in 1966 onwards...... She is still alive but has never recovered, As for the Special constable, He is now CEO of RSPCA NSW....... "find them good homes?"..... Considering I had seen and heard all this in 1995, My personal breakdown after Stringy disappeared and the ensuing fiasco i in 1999 shows how stupid I was to think that could not happen to me, there is nothing wrong with my dogs, including Stringy..Just like you will when its your turn to learn The modus operandi has been in operation for decades now. AND they did prove me correct after all their tests came back negative.... pity it took them 13 days to learn that and I had to pay for every cent of the tests proving my vet knows his job and knew Blue gene alopecia on sight and theirs didn"t. Even more upsetting, he didn't come home the same happy healthy dog. once I had paid them, I had to race him to his own vet to learn why he was continually foaming at the mouth, he was so dehydrated on arrival he had to go on a drip and antibiotics for the pneumonia he now had and Richard found his trachea had been torn, the exudation from the tear causing the pneumonia. he believed an oversize tracheal tube had been too forceably inserted causing the tear. UMMM ..well? is this considered relevant in that the Modus Operandi is the same, or should I delete it?