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"12. Prohibit the genetic manipulation of species. This one might take a while. Evolution has shown that Mother Nature is quite capable of manipulating genes all by herself and definitely had a headsup! Now, where were we ...... " love it Souff trouble is now if it shows up in a dog, then its automatically the breeders fault..... they did it... mother nature and evolution dont happen only unethical breeders happen..... sigh :D

lot of ticks or near ticks already n fifi dont kid yourself its all is the intention

good one erny has it occurred to any one all these dog laws or more politically correct than actually realistic? still cant get my head around the one that snared judy guard is still out there unamended

well ive tried google to try and find where it came from. found three talking about it http://www.nawcc-ch149.com/ch149mb/viewtop...d5ab8c350b50845 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2634124/posts http://quasi-superspooge.blogspot.com/2010...orrectness.html

i think dumpage is a public education issue how has it come about that in so many quarters that its being slated to the actual breeder of the dumped dog being treated as the cause is a bit beyond me?

Water does nothing to dogs that are intent on fighting.All it does is make them wet and harder to grab hold of. not quite so. keep the hose full bore on the nose, preferably straight up the nose if you can so it fills with water, and guess what? they cant breathe.... have to let go and youve the chance to pull them apart while spluttering... worked a treat when two cattledogs latched onto each other. partdrowned the worst agressor, then turned it on the other when he tried to renew the attack while the half drowned was being dragged away

There is a contest at University of New Brunswick calling for the most appropriate definition of a contemporary term. This year's term was: "Political Correctness". The winner wrote: "Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a piece of shit by the clean end."

my brother was in that situation.. three, or was it 4? greyhounds. certainly more than they are legally allowed to walk, pulled their trainer over and went after his shetland sheepdog. run certainly wasnt an option. he scooped her up and held her as high over his head as he could. the greyhounds trying to climb him.. being nearly 6 foot helped a bit and them being muzzled certainly had to hold the pose until the trainer caught up with them and pulled them off. his dog not panicking or trying to jump from his hands probably saved her life too.

ummm since when is wringing its neck and putting it into some form of shock which is patently obvious, acceptable on ANY level?

there is a vet near north ryde that work in collaboration with engenic and their success rate against lymphoma is amazing anyone who wants to give their dog a chance at total cure. they already have theruns on the board.. its called nano cell technology Lane Cove? and brain cancer is the one they are working on now.. have 2 dogs tested totaly gone in mri scans still cancer free 2 yrs on, they were so affected they could barely control themselves when treatment began

come to think of it. its not just herding dogs that think for themselves . neighbours had a filly and a gelding by a stockhorse at oberon. went to visit their breeder to show off their champion ribbons. he was comming in with a mob of cattle.. n rode over to the fence to talk to them as the cattle went into the yards. wasnt watching the cattle but his mount obviously was. suddenly his horse took off so fast he was left in midair to land in a heap. his horse? flat gallop to the yards to block the cattle which had decided to come back out the still open gate. horsie, blocked em.. n stood in the gate.. pointedly looking back at the fallen rider... with "hey get here and shut the gate? i cant do it all by myself" apparently he had also finished yarding the cattle and would wait at the gate if his rider came off during the muster.... rider had a tendency to go out bareback n halter so if things got hairy he occasionally did come off. n his horse didnt bother waiting for him, if the cattle were moving fast.

dont forget the kelpie. still remember a friends story. he had a sick filly. had put her in the house paddock seperate from the mob. she was in the far corner and the main mob on the other side of the fence keeping her company. he sent his kelpie to go get her into the yard to medicate. she flatly refused to leave the tree and her mates on the other side of the fence. dog looked to him for direction,,,he? rolling with laughter at the dogs discomforture.. so what does his dog do? jumped the fence, moved the mob down towards the stockyards n filly followed along the fence. pushed the mob along the edge of the stockyards and filly went in the gate to stay with them. dog jumped the fence and stood in the gateway. head over his shoulder as if to say.... "now get your sorry butt over here and shut the #### gate man!"

hey heres the link for those who missed it, gee the bit about our faces was a bit astonishing, which eye do u loot at? left or right? never even had given it a thought till this? n yep u have to wait till the add finishes. before the program starts.... http://player.sbs.com.au/programs#/program...he-Dog-Full-Ep/

I AGREE that is soooo weird,,, i know how desperatly i wanted to know who stole mine? n if you dont know who to watch for how do you know more wont go missing either?

just remember he may not want a friend either. i have looked after many dogs for friends while they went away or other emergencies and theres are some dogs that dont like other dogs. full stop. i well recall two that to put another with them was asking for trouble. one in particular springs to mind. loving and the sweetest to her owner and people.. would go for the kill the second another dog was in the same area. should she have been put down? her pensioner owner adored her and she her, great with the grandkids. tolerate another dog... no way.

well said. more like unreality show

It's not important enough for me to stick it on my calendar. And I know there are others who dont agree with me and think the shows is great. Good on them . I watched a new Australian film the other night and thought it was absolutely brilliant. There are more people on the internet movie data base forums who think it's garbage. No big deal to me. I dont take it personally - not sure why people who like the show and love Dr Chris are getting their knickers in a twist that a lot of people here are saying the show is unrealistic. If you watch the film critics on The Movie Shw say your fave film is garbage, is that going to upset you? No it's not going to upset me at all and that's why I love the freedom of speech. I don't take this personally and I haven't noticed my knickers in a knot what you are forgetting is there is an element that do not think anyone with dogs has freedom of speech or decisions anymore.. look at all the legislation thats being passed and contemplated all in the name of "in the best instrests of the dogs" like how is the law that meshed Judy guard in the best interests of anyone ? well except for income generation for the rspca? this is one section of australian citizens who are losing their freedom of choice all in the name of "for the greater good" so dont presume democracy is alive and well for all eh?

Not from me Not this one The show is not an instruction manual on "how to be a vet" or "Veterinary Procedures for the Homeowner". It's a show, entertainment - the show features a couple of blondes dealing with animal illnesses. And it's about entertainment - if you fnd it objectionable, don't watch. He dealt with the chi as he did because it is entertaining - as the snake in the pool was also entertaining. Hairless roos are almost impossible to rear. I am quite sure Chris knew that...... but it gave him the opportunity to warn intending rearers about cows' milk which is one of the major causes of roos found by the "public" dying. By the time they are taken to a vet/carer because they wont drink the cows milk, the damage has been done. It also allowed people who had never seen a baby roo (most of the population) to see one. I didn't think much of the comment about the dog with the congenital problem being "inbred" but the specialist said that - and it showed people this problem which is relatively rare. Chris paid for the specialist surgery. For the past 15 - 20 years, only those who rate in the top 2% academically may enter vet school, which explains why the minority of graduands began vet school after Yr 12. He was in that 2% which makes him a lot smarter than the other 98%. So I don'r think he is stupid. Also, most vets don't get rich, unless they have their own TV show --- so exactly how dumb is he? Not at all. I'd rather watch him on TV being a showman than some shuffling old toothless horror with halitosis and a green cardi who mumbles his way through 100% correct (and dead boring) diagnoses and treatments. Give me entertainment any time over boring as bat excrement. And if it is entertainment which offers a few tiips, so much the better. I watched Big Brother a few times, and learned nothing. If I want correct and relevant diagnoses and treatments, I'll go to my own vet and pay for it. Not expect to get it from the TV. *goes back to TV remembering to keep knees together, having noticed Mr. Raz' dire note* sadly today so many top class students have amazinly little animal knowledge, they get the academic learning but as my vet likes to say, all they have at graduation is a licence to learn at the pet owners expense. he had a young guy in to help once and i couldnt belive some of the things that came out of him. for example all dogs that are sensitive to ivermection should die. ie dose all collies and the ones that dont die are then left to continue the breed. so i asked him so you would advocate a murry grey breeder worm their cattle with Ivemec and then he wouldonly have left cattle that were not sensative to it? he said yes, thats what should be done. considering one herd it killed the lot, thats how it was discovered that there is a sensativy issue with some animals and breeds. thats pretty heavy culling?

You weren't there, you don't know my dogs or their relationship, so what you would do in such a situation isn't really relevant. Well if you don't want anyone to comment on what you say, or your situation or your dogs, then don't post at all - what you have said is not relevant, is it? If you don't think one dog attacking another in the way you describe isn't horrific, that is your business. If one of my dogs decided to get one of my other dogs by the throat in the way you have described and I chose to put my own dog to sleep, that is my business. as is spikes decision. well for now what the future holds is a whole differnt ball game

What an incredibly harsh and insensitive thing to say. First of all, having an incident break out between two dogs could happen to anyone, even the most experienced of dog owners. Unless you keep both dogs separated at all times, you never know what completely random thing could happen to affect one of the dog's behaviour - unexpected illness, new stimulae, toxins ... dogs are living creatures and cannot be 100% predictable. Second, from what I can see, the OP is doing the best possible given an incredibly difficult situation. I know some would say PTS the Akita but that sounds profoundly unfair and extreme given the circumstances. I'm no expert but I'm guessing that it's going to be far easier to find a good new home for a Fox Terrier than it would be for a male Akita given the fact that there is undeniable bias against and fear surrounding large breeds in the community. Your comments above would appear to be clear manifestations of such viewpoints. In any case, it's really unfortunate that this thread has to devolve like this. Can't we just sympathise with the poor OP and give helpful suggestions instead of making OP feel worse? Tapferhund if you really feel so strongly about Akitas and scenarios like this and believe that people take it upon themselves when they select breeds like Akitas - couldn't it be more appropriately discussed in a new thread? I'm sure many would like to engage and discuss over there. Agreed! Tapferhund what would you like to see the owner of these dogs do? Would you rather that they rehomed the akita? Or would you prefer that they kept both dogs and risked another incident? I think given the situation the owner is doing the best thing possible if they are not able to keep the dogs separated. Your comments are incredibly harsh and judgmental.. completely unnecessary. trouble is this IS they type of thinking and judment making thats getting so many laws passed to CONTROL anyone owning a dog. all in the name of defending the dogs. altough i doubt judy felt her dogs needing seizing.. but the mentality that set the train in motions is just this..... roll over any rights of the owners or their stress....even when its not necessary.. reads as quilty until proven innocent mentality

What an incredibly harsh and insensitive thing to say. First of all, having an incident break out between two dogs could happen to anyone, even the most experienced of dog owners. Unless you keep both dogs separated at all times, you never know what completely random thing could happen to affect one of the dog's behaviour - unexpected illness, new stimulae, toxins ... dogs are living creatures and cannot be 100% predictable. Second, from what I can see, the OP is doing the best possible given an incredibly difficult situation. I know some would say PTS the Akita but that sounds profoundly unfair and extreme given the circumstances. I'm no expert but I'm guessing that it's going to be far easier to find a good new home for a Fox Terrier than it would be for a male Akita given the fact that there is undeniable bias against and fear surrounding large breeds in the community. Your comments above would appear to be clear manifestations of such viewpoints. In any case, it's really unfortunate that this thread has to devolve like this. Can't we just sympathise with the poor OP and give helpful suggestions instead of making OP feel worse? Tapferhund if you really feel so strongly about the temperament of Akitas, scenarios like this and believe that people take it upon themselves when they select breeds like Akitas - couldn't it be more appropriately discussed in a new thread? I'm sure many would like to engage and discuss over there, particularly if you believe that there is a genuine basis for avoiding the breed. LOL well it doesnt sound like Tapferhund 's temprement comess across as too noice b maybe needs rehoming

take that as a given from what ive seen in the past.

Got that one courtesy of my thread about trampolines! :) memories ;) BUT THEY ARE OWNED BY WHAT? ;) people..... thats what. thats who. since the same people can choose to vaccinate or not to vaccinate their own progeny. why does anyone including a politician feel they have the right to take that choice away? does anyone here seriously belive you cease to be a part of the "people" or cease to the right to to freedom of choice if the choice involves your dog??? for goodness sake? you can take the poor dog or cat or whatever and have your vet kill it, on your order and its perfectly legal.. it doesnt have to be ill or injoured. where is the sanity in this scenario?

there's a difference between saying, "dont you think my dog is cute." and "my dog is cuter than yours because i bought him from a top breeder and you bought a dirty mix breed from the newspaper." I don't think I've read that in this thread. Am I a purebred dog snob? You betcha, I am. I have purebred dogs because I like a particular type of dog. I like wheaten and kerry blue terriers. Do I think they're the best dogs on the planet? You betcha, I do. Am I going to say so? You betcha, I am. I didn't buy them but their breeders are indeed tops. Will I say so at every opportunity? You betcha, I will. Why should you condemn me for having purebreds and not a mixed breed? Yes, it works both ways and you're doing it right now. sorry sunshine, i'm not, because then i would be condemning myself. i understand this was a forum set up to discuss pure breeds, i didnt when i signed up, and this was the first thread that made me feel uncomfortable about the situation. i thought this was a big dog loving community but apparently some have a higher status than others. don't worry guys, i'll stay out of your precious pure breed threads, i'll stick to conversing with those old enough to understand that we are all created equally, i think they teach that in kindergarden these days? are u serious???? seriously. have you really read all the threads in the past week? if you own a dog your guilty UNTIL proven innocent. you dont have to vaccinate your child,,,, because that would impinge on your human rights. BUT you have to have PROOFF YOU OVERVACCINATE YOUR DOG OR you have now broken a LAW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YET THERE IS NO SUCH LAW FOR FORCE YOU TO VACCINATE YOUR CHILD?? THAT to me anyway does not smack of "we are all created equally," lookes from where im standing you arent if you have a dog or dogs do our lawmakers really care more about overwelfare of cannis famiaris (even to the point of vaccinating them to their detriment even death) than a child whose parents wont even consider vaccination for polio, there it is called freedom of choice?? if you can freely choose to risk your child to all manner of potentially deadly in the belief and sometimes well grounded fear the vaccination could kill or maim... and i know it happens... my own nephew cardiac arrested after his first vaccinations. he is only alive today becuse his mum worked there and stayed to talk to friends so when he died the crash cart was beside the door. or.... he would have been just another unfortunate stastic...

no idea what the nature of the complaint was but sure had the rspca pay a call.... so the games still playing in a home near someone... be careful who you annoy