whiskedaway Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 I'm not feeling personally targeted. I'm just saying that we won't be there anymore because Akira is active, and even though she's never caused trouble I won't be able to get her to settle to the levels others will want her to, and mainly because I don't want our puppy in a situation like the one on Sunday (I'm not worried about Akira because she can take care of herself). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ker Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 I saw ONE fight on Sunday - that was the one first mentioned. It's not like we had masses of dogs going at each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MsKatie Posted January 6, 2011 Author Share Posted January 6, 2011 I assume the incidents with Rosie were the dog fights on Sunday - I apologise for those and spoke to both owners about them to ensure I knew what had been the cause of these - she didn't go around causing issues and she was on the leash for some of it - i took her home when I felt she had enough. So - my bad judgement muzzling her and bringing her - i don't think so as she had a few positve ineractions but obviously this was not the case and as my judgement is obviously not that of others - we won't be back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravyk Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 I do not have it out for anyone or anyone's dogs! Who ever said that has seriously misconstrued what I said. I did not single anyone out. I had no idea who was throwing the ball. I never named anyone or anyone's dogs. I am not saying active dogs shouldn't be allowed. All I am asking is for people to refrain from bringing toys along. The dogs have fun without them. The humans have fun without them. I did not make it sound like we always have fights. I said we have the occasional tiff. And honestly it's expected with such a large group of dogs running together. And I also said that my dog has being involved in two scuffles with another dog over a ball. Maybe I should have mentioned these scuffles happened about 18 months apart! Why I took a few days to mention something, I needed some time to think, to work out if I was over reacting or if it a legitmate thing to say. I thought it was worth mentioning. Obviously I was wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowgirl Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 I don't think food or toys will make the meet any more or less interesting, it's just a meet up for DOLers and their dogs, it's not meant to be the gala event of the season Its just a little thing for those of us who chat on DOL to catch up in real life. Anyway, Banshee and I will be at the usual park at the usual time Feb 6th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovemymutts Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 I don't think food or toys will make the meet any more or less interesting, it's just a meet up for DOLers and their dogs, it's not meant to be the gala event of the season Its just a little thing for those of us who chat on DOL to catch up in real life. Anyway, Banshee and I will be at the usual park at the usual time Feb 6th :D & as they say in 'Bad Boys'....... WOOOOSAAAAAA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ker Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 I think I'll stick to smaller meets with people I choose to meet with as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxx'sBuddy Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 i think a bunch of dogs and food and balls don't necessarily mix. that's not picking on anyone but just looking at what can set dogs off. surely all we are trying to do is stop issues before they happen? I would have thought that we could resolve this in a way so that the meet would continue and the dogs interests be looked after. would it hurt to try this at the next meet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ker Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Well, I've been going to meets for...oh over 3 years now, and we haven't had any problems until now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxx'sBuddy Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Well, I've been going to meets for...oh over 3 years now, and we haven't had any problems until now. but given there appears to have been problems last time wouldn't it be an idea to look into reducing the risk of further problems? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happypaws Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 i think a bunch of dogs and food and balls don't necessarily mix. that's not picking on anyone but just looking at what can set dogs off. surely all we are trying to do is stop issues before they happen?I would have thought that we could resolve this in a way so that the meet would continue and the dogs interests be looked after. would it hurt to try this at the next meet? What she said !!!!! - I want to attend some of these in the future and it should be a good time for dogs and humans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Rusty Bucket Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 I dunno how I get away with what I do with treats. I even had one enthusiastic hound chewing on one of the treat bags, can't remember which dog but it got nowhere... most all dogs I've dealt with have learned very quickly that no dog is getting any treats at all if any of them so much as give another dog a "shoo look". But I could leave the treats and toys in the car. Catching Frosty might be harder, but she regards the lead as a fun tug toy too. I am just so glad she's such a grovel dog and I don't have to worry about these things, though life does get exciting if she steals a ball from a resource guarder - she drops it instantly when "told" though (by the other dog). Maybe we should have 100 balls or at least three for every dog - and they'd have a harder time guarding or biting if they all have their mouths full of tennis balls (for Earl, we would need a basketball). I did notice some who had balls out, but by time the squeaky ball showed up, I think there were fewer dogs anyway. I didn't know who had the orignal balls except that KHM sorted them and stuffed them in the fence wire. We were squashed into an area about 1/4 the normal area we get, and there were more dogs (or it seemed like it) than usual as well. I dunno. I did say to someone that maybe a ball wasn't a good idea, but I didn't want to be the policeman on the day and any dogs that might have caused a problem about it were under control (on lead?) by then. I do know on the gates to the fenced dog parks in the ACT they have an "ettiquette" sign that says no toys or balls. I have more problems when the human is the resource guarder, I get the ball back from my thief for them, and then they prompty give it back to her by throwing it again - often straight towards her. WTF? Why are they telling me off? I think it wouldn't hurt to ask or check with everyone else if anyone has a dog that would get into trouble over a ball before getting one out. And maybe the same with food. Generally it's not a good idea to hand out food without checking with owner first - I usually remember to ask. If there are too many people to ask then maybe that's when you keep the ball stashed. I also think we do better when there is more room. Though not sure of what alternate venues would be adequately fenced for some dogs... Might be something to think about though. That's the trouble with the internet. Lots of people might show up. I'm also happy to bring grovel dog to smaller meets if people want/need. PM me. There is a fenced double tennis court at the end of my street that doesn't get used at all in the mornings or school hours and bugger all after school during school week or when it's a bit cold... not sure about weekends but then there's my back yard... Near me are semi fenced ovals - Bailey, Mortlock Park, and Hawthorn ovals - just need to check when sport is on and avoid that. Goodwood oval - the hockey pitch does not get used during summer - well maybe for cricket juniors on Sunday mornings and that is well fenced on 3 sides. And there is also the old orphanage - but I don't know where that's at right now - never been there. Dammit - the adelaide city council parklands dogs rules are so confusing and they've changed them in the last 12 months. But they say dogs on leash within 50m of playground or BBQ - go figure and only ones that come immediately when they're called, may be off lead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finnesse Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 I would suggest people are aware of their particular dogs limitations and aware of the environment and nobody is forced into attending so I guess its just more a case of if you aren't comfortable then you don't go. People seem to be aware of the dogs that might have issues in that environment so maybe you have to make your own decisions as to whether your dog is appropriate for the environment presented. There are other alternatives for getting together and allowing dogs to socialise and there is nothing stopping people from arranging their own private play dates for their dogs if they feel they want to socialise. If you feel the need to attend then you can always do as Snook says and leave your dog at home and just come and socialise with the humans. I think that is in part what creates issues at dog parks. People go to socialise and tend to get distracted from supervising their dog. I think in part that is probably what happens a little at DOL meets (from the few I have attended). I agree wholeheartedly with this post I have tried going along twice and found it isn't really the right environment for us. That does't mean it isn't for others. We all make our own judgements and choices. If it isn't enjoyable for both you and your dog/s then there is no point in attending. Some may think their dogs aren't a problem or haven't caused any scuffles when as a matter of fact their's have been the instigator. This is without adding balls, toys and food into the equation. You don't like to say something or name dogs because you don't want to upset people so things don't get addressed. Hopefully things can be sorted out for those that really do like going because socialising is really important. Putting quite a large amount of dogs in a small area offleash is never going to not have any problems so addressing what can be done to make it run as smooth as possible is important for the meets to continue. Lets hope that is done amicably I have met some lovely people and dogs there and we have our own playdates like Ness suggested which we enjoy. Matter of fact I am meeting up with another again next Tuesday, Kelpiehoundmum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Squish Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Anyway, Banshee and I will be at the usual park at the usual time Feb 6th We will see you there YG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Squish Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Some may think their dogs aren't a problem or haven't caused any scuffles when as a matter of fact their's have been the instigator. This is without adding balls, toys and food into the equation. You don't like to say something or name dogs because you don't want to upset people so things don't get addressed. If anyone ever has any problem with my dogs, please let me know, so I can address the issues Although my rescue dogs have been temperament tested before coming to the meets, Its important I know all I can about the dogs, before placing them into their new homes so please tell me. I wont be upset Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Rusty Bucket Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 If anyone ever has any problem with my dogs, please let me know, so I can address the issues Yes me too. I don't want anyone to think I will be in denial or defensive if they need me to put Frosty on lead or stop feeding treats or whatever. Sometimes Frosty pushes the limits when trying to greet a dog that isn't all that willing. Some dogs take a while to get used to her antics - it's like they can't quite believe what shes doing. And she usually does it when I'm picking up a dog crap - whether hers or a kharma crap (the one you will step in later if you don't pick it up now). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cassie Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 I wasn't at this particular meet but have been to many in the past, so from a semi-outsouder point of view can I just say that this: It also sounds as though the number of people now attending the meets might have outgrown the space available at the venue. Maybe it might be worth looking for another venue which is better suited to a larger number of dogs ;) and this: But in hindsight maybe i should have been told on the day that my dog was causing issues not wait 3 days and then post about it... i would have preferred it that way but hey thats how i roll are the best ideas that have been put forward so far in my opinion. We used to come regularly, until my on leash Hudson was approached by a dog who had a go at him, was recalled, then came back and had another turn. I always kept Hudson on leash after that (the few times we came again) as I was unsure how he'd react in future and would rather he be right next to me so I could reprimand him and/or remove him if necessary. Not that I have Hudson anymore so it's not such an issue, and Zephyr is fine with everyone so I was planning to start coming again, now I'm not so sure? I know we always say everyone and every dog is welcome and I'm NOT suggesting that that's not still the case, but if too many dogs are in the one small space and certain dogs are behaving in ways that other dogs do not like, but nothing is said to anyone (!!!!!) then maybe the boundaries need to be redefined. My two cents anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trishalouise Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 This was my first meet with my 2 and it wasn't very enjoyable for us. Whilst the few people I met were lovely, there were a lot of hyped up dogs there. My Greyhound was fine - has to stay on leash anyway and as he is big nobody really bothered him. My problem was regarding my Poodle. Every time I let her off lead she ran - she likes to do the zoomies!! Unfortunately, the dynamics of the group meant that a small, fast moving dog was a great thing to chase :D She recalls beautifully so I was able to get her back to me but there were a couple of dogs who targetted her and even when she was back with me on lead were painful. I tried a couple of times but every time she ran it was the same thing. I was hopeful that this kind of meet would be great but to be honest there were enough people there not paying attention to what was going on and certainly not controlling their dogs. I hope that you can sort this out and those whose dogs enjoy this kind of environment continue to do so - but please be mindful of dogs who are less full on, less resiliant or have a different play style. Perhaps having the full on dogs on lead for a time so that the others also get a go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowgirl Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Trish, would you be willing to come to the Feb 6 meet? I think your experience in dog training and behaviour would really be of benifit to those of us who may have trouble reading our dogs in this group environment. I know Banshee would love to run and do zoomies with your poodle, but we have a similar problem in that when the little dogs run about, some of the bigger dogs can get a bit silly. As the meets are attracting more dogs of different personalities and temperaments I feel that we may need more input on how best to control our dogs so that everyone gets to have a good time. Like most of us, I just love my dogs and want them to have a fun play date. I don't have enough experience in dog behaviour to help solve some of the issues that are coming up now. I would love it if someone who really understands dog behaviour could come and act as our 'guide' so that we can learn about and become aware of behaviours that need attending to - when dogs should be put on lead, walked elsewhere for a while, when toys need to be removed, etc. I think we're getting a bit out of our depth with what's happening and I hate to think that some members won't be coming anymore because of it. The trouble is that between us, we don't seem to have enough knowledge or tools to make it work for everyone, and I think also many of us are unwilling to speak up because we don't want to sound bossy or hurt someone's feelings. If we had an experienced person to guide us, I for one would be willing to let them take the reins and abide by their advice and let us know what we need to do in various situations that come up during the meets. xx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowgirl Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Ohhh, just had another idea Maybe we could do the 1st Sunday of the month for small, shy & calm dogs, and the 2nd or 3rd for the more energetic dogs. That way members could come to both meets if they like but not necessarily bring dogs that don't fit into the specific group. If you've got one calm and one energetic dog, you get to go to two different meets that suit the needs of your dog! Is this worth thinking about? I would love to be able to bring all four of my littlies to socialise with other dogs they can safely play with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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