Mashlee08 Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 If you contact paw prints pet training, I highly recommend them don't know where abouts they do their classes in that area but they are accredited dog trainers running a puppy class rather than vet nurses. Just thought I'd highlight that bit, very important to remember that vet nurses aren't qualified to teach anything at all. (i should know, I am one) I wasn't even taught calming signals or anything at uni. So I strongly urge you to find someone accredited. I can vouch for paw prints pet training also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSoSwift Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Yep true but you can be a vet nurse, or ex one and know about training dogs.................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mashlee08 Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Yep true but you can be a vet nurse, or ex one and know about training dogs.................. I know :) i wasnt applying it to all of them, I could train a dog to an extent, but most of them couldnt. Especially the ones in New Zealand where I am from, dont really know how it is here. Sorry for the blanket statement :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSoSwift Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Yep true but you can be a vet nurse, or ex one and know about training dogs.................. I know :) i wasnt applying it to all of them, I could train a dog to an extent, but most of them couldnt. Especially the ones in New Zealand where I am from, dont really know how it is here. Sorry for the blanket statement :) nah it's okay :) I find the Vet nurse bashing over PPS schools a little frustrating at times that's all :) I worked as a vet nurse, receptionist and groomer over 15 years and yes many of the people I worked with had no idea at all( and a scary lack of any idea to be honest) but I ran a very successful PPS with 2 friends for 8 years :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mashlee08 Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Yep true but you can be a vet nurse, or ex one and know about training dogs.................. I know :) i wasnt applying it to all of them, I could train a dog to an extent, but most of them couldnt. Especially the ones in New Zealand where I am from, dont really know how it is here. Sorry for the blanket statement :) nah it's okay :) I find the Vet nurse bashing over PPS schools a little frustrating at times that's all :) I worked as a vet nurse, receptionist and groomer over 15 years and yes many of the people I worked with had no idea at all( and a scary lack of any idea to be honest) but I ran a very successful PPS with 2 friends for 8 years :) I can vouch for the lack of any idea bit too! That's what started me on my knowledge hunt about dogs pretty much. I think having nurses at least a little clued up could be extremely valuable for clinic and client. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rach... Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 (edited) Vet nurse run pps is where a lot of my dogs issues started. If a qualified trainer had seen them they would have red flagged her and insisted she had more training and not just put her in the naughty corner. I was 15 or 16 at the time and knew no better. If vet nurses want to take puppy classes they should have a qualification still for it, puppy is the most vital stage of socialisation. I'd rather a puppy not attend puppy classes than attend with some of the ones I've seen run by nurses. I say some, some nurses have an idea but alot don't about dog behaviour and the actual interactions between puppies. My 10 week old ACD got barked and barked in the face by a dobe puppy that belonged to her friend until she couldn't take it anymore and went the other puppy with aggression I didn't know a puppy could have. Up Until then she just sat there and tried to ignore It. i hate to think whar the Dobe is like now since it looked like it was headed to be a train wreck. She's now 4 and still to this day will not go near a dobe and is severely dog reactive and aggressive. I've seen way more pups ruined by bad pps than I've seen come out of it good. The amount of vet nurses I know fresh out of Tafe and doing puppy classes is crazy as well some never even having had dogs of their own Edited October 15, 2012 by Rach... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wazzat Xolo Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Vet nurse run pps is where a lot of my dogs issues started. If a qualified trainer had seen them they would have red flagged her and insisted she had more training and not just put her in the naughty corner. I was 15 or 16 at the time and knew no better. If vet nurses want to take puppy classes they should have a qualification still for it, puppy is the most vital stage of socialisation. I'd rather a puppy not attend puppy classes than attend with some of the ones I've seen run by nurses. I say some, some nurses have an idea but alot don't about dog behaviour and the actual interactions between puppies. My 10 week old ACD got barked and barked in the face by a dobe puppy that belonged to her friend until she couldn't take it anymore and went the other puppy with aggression I didn't know a puppy could have. Up Until then she just sat there and tried to ignore It. i hate to think whar the Dobe is like now since it looked like it was headed to be a train wreck. She's now 4 and still to this day will not go near a dobe and is severely dog reactive and aggressive. I've seen way more pups ruined by bad pps than I've seen come out of it good. The amount of vet nurses I know fresh out of Tafe and doing puppy classes is crazy as well some never even having had dogs of their own Good post Rach, the same goes for what people call Behaviorists, some are just down right awful,(nice people but bad trainers) anyone can get a piece of paper, the whole system needs to be regulated so people can get a fair deal for them and their animals, it’s far too easy to get animals and far too easy to call oneself a "Professional" I searched for a while to find a qualified animal person to temp assess my dogs, I was surprised how many are actually qualified and capable, I had to use an interstater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mashlee08 Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Vet nurse run pps is where a lot of my dogs issues started. If a qualified trainer had seen them they would have red flagged her and insisted she had more training and not just put her in the naughty corner. I was 15 or 16 at the time and knew no better. If vet nurses want to take puppy classes they should have a qualification still for it, puppy is the most vital stage of socialisation. I'd rather a puppy not attend puppy classes than attend with some of the ones I've seen run by nurses. I say some, some nurses have an idea but alot don't about dog behaviour and the actual interactions between puppies. My 10 week old ACD got barked and barked in the face by a dobe puppy that belonged to her friend until she couldn't take it anymore and went the other puppy with aggression I didn't know a puppy could have. Up Until then she just sat there and tried to ignore It. i hate to think whar the Dobe is like now since it looked like it was headed to be a train wreck. She's now 4 and still to this day will not go near a dobe and is severely dog reactive and aggressive. I've seen way more pups ruined by bad pps than I've seen come out of it good. The amount of vet nurses I know fresh out of Tafe and doing puppy classes is crazy as well some never even having had dogs of their own Good post Rach, the same goes for what people call Behaviorists, some are just down right awful,(nice people but bad trainers) anyone can get a piece of paper, the whole system needs to be regulated so people can get a fair deal for them and their animals, it's far too easy to get animals and far too easy to call oneself a "Professional" I searched for a while to find a qualified animal person to temp assess my dogs, I was surprised how many are actually qualified and capable, I had to use an interstater. Do not even get my started on that. " I have a bit of paper, I am a behaviorist/trainer" Gah!!! Drives me bonkers. I admit, I am looking into becoming a trainer, and I have been looking for a course for so long, because I just don't want to be another one of those people. There are enough as it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedazzledx2 Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Well actually no....a qualified Behaviourist is a very highly trained proffession. The problem is people are calling themselves a behaviourist when all they've done is some kind of pet training course (the bit of paper) and calling themselves a behaviourist. Its a bit like doing a first aid course and then calling yourself a paramedic!!!!!! If you are seeking out a Behaviourist you need to see the university qualification! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mashlee08 Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 If you are seeking out a Behaviourist you need to see the university qualification! Yep, and off the top of my head I cant even make up on one hand people with a Uni qualification, but I can think of millions with just a cert or online course. Scary.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubyStar Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Well actually no....a qualified Behaviourist is a very highly trained proffession. The problem is people are calling themselves a behaviourist when all they've done is some kind of pet training course (the bit of paper) and calling themselves a behaviourist. Its a bit like doing a first aid course and then calling yourself a paramedic!!!!!! If you are seeking out a Behaviourist you need to see the university qualification! My pet hate, too! Can't stand TAFE qualified people calling themselves a BEHAVIOURIST. Pffft. And no, I have nothing against TAFE, I have done many years at TAFE myself, including starting their companion animals course a few years back. It's just a title people are claiming up way too easily and don't have the relevant university degree and experience to back it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wazzat Xolo Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Well actually no....a qualified Behaviourist is a very highly trained proffession. The problem is people are calling themselves a behaviourist when all they've done is some kind of pet training course (the bit of paper) and calling themselves a behaviourist. Its a bit like doing a first aid course and then calling yourself a paramedic!!!!!! If you are seeking out a Behaviourist you need to see the university qualification! My pet hate, too! Can't stand TAFE qualified people calling themselves a BEHAVIOURIST. Pffft. And no, I have nothing against TAFE, I have done many years at TAFE myself, including starting their companion animals course a few years back. It's just a title people are claiming up way too easily and don't have the relevant university degree and experience to back it up. Experience in anything is great, but in my personal experience i like to use the ones with experience and the qualifications, the person i use has both .....(M.Soc.Sci, Ph.D) is an Applied Animal Behaviourist (degrees in Zoology and Psychology, and a doctorate in animal behaviour) which specialised in dog attacks on livestock,they also have 25 years of experience in consulting and research in animal behaviour, management, welfare and training. I liked them and they were great with my dogs, everyone has their own likes and dislikes, but I like mine and can demonstrate the results with all my dogs ( me on the other hand still needs the odd reminder lol) ...and for 3what its worth I had many years in training and temp testing dogs through my work as a Dog handler, but its still just a bit of paper! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wazzat Xolo Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Well actually no....a qualified Behaviourist is a very highly trained proffession. The problem is people are calling themselves a behaviourist when all they've done is some kind of pet training course (the bit of paper) and calling themselves a behaviourist. Its a bit like doing a first aid course and then calling yourself a paramedic!!!!!! If you are seeking out a Behaviourist you need to see the university qualification! My pet hate, too! Can't stand TAFE qualified people calling themselves a BEHAVIOURIST. Pffft. And no, I have nothing against TAFE, I have done many years at TAFE myself, including starting their companion animals course a few years back. It's just a title people are claiming up way too easily and don't have the relevant university degree and experience to back it up. lolol thats like me saying I win the Xolo National every year here in Australia ( and I do) I hold it in my backyard and show them all myself! lolol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chichi_wawa Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 If you contact paw prints pet training, I highly recommend them don't know where abouts they do their classes in that area but they are accredited dog trainers running a puppy class rather than vet nurses. Just thought I'd highlight that bit, very important to remember that vet nurses aren't qualified to teach anything at all. (i should know, I am one) I wasn't even taught calming signals or anything at uni. So I strongly urge you to find someone accredited. I can vouch for paw prints pet training also. I got in touch with Paw Prints, pup starts classes next week. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mashlee08 Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Well actually no....a qualified Behaviourist is a very highly trained proffession. The problem is people are calling themselves a behaviourist when all they've done is some kind of pet training course (the bit of paper) and calling themselves a behaviourist. Its a bit like doing a first aid course and then calling yourself a paramedic!!!!!! If you are seeking out a Behaviourist you need to see the university qualification! My pet hate, too! Can't stand TAFE qualified people calling themselves a BEHAVIOURIST. Pffft. And no, I have nothing against TAFE, I have done many years at TAFE myself, including starting their companion animals course a few years back. It's just a title people are claiming up way too easily and don't have the relevant university degree and experience to back it up. lolol thats like me saying I win the Xolo National every year here in Australia ( and I do) I hold it in my backyard and show them all myself! lolol Hehehe, had a good laugh at this lol. I have seen your dogs before, and my initial reaction was " I wonder how many people have them" lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rach... Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 J at least at the Xolo national Mak and I would have less questions to answer and wouldn't have to say xoloitzcuintle a million times ahha :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wazzat Xolo Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Well actually no....a qualified Behaviourist is a very highly trained proffession. The problem is people are calling themselves a behaviourist when all they've done is some kind of pet training course (the bit of paper) and calling themselves a behaviourist. Its a bit like doing a first aid course and then calling yourself a paramedic!!!!!! If you are seeking out a Behaviourist you need to see the university qualification! My pet hate, too! Can't stand TAFE qualified people calling themselves a BEHAVIOURIST. Pffft. And no, I have nothing against TAFE, I have done many years at TAFE myself, including starting their companion animals course a few years back. It's just a title people are claiming up way too easily and don't have the relevant university degree and experience to back it up. lolol thats like me saying I win the Xolo National every year here in Australia ( and I do) I hold it in my backyard and show them all myself! lolol Hehehe, had a good laugh at this lol. I have seen your dogs before, and my initial reaction was " I wonder how many people have them" lol thats why I win the Xolo National, kick my own butt at every show! lolololol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirawee Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 So which dog can you prefix with BISS though, WX? <G> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pie Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 For anyone interested Cleanrun have free shipping on isqueak and cuz balls including the crackle ones as well as other toys like air kongs, and regular kongs, and kong wubbas, looks like basically every kong toy is on there! :D :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RosieFT Posted October 18, 2012 Share Posted October 18, 2012 i was disapointed with the kong wubbas animal headed ones. They did not last long at all, before the heads came unstitched. Think i will stick to the regular ones that last for ages. thanks for the heads up. ugh. :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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