StormTrooper Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 Our 1 yr old female newfoundland is a bit lonely during the day & we thought we might get a friend for her as this breed loves to have company. The breeder who we bought her from has offered us one of her male dogs ($2,000) - he is 2 yrs old & has won a couple of championships etc. The breeder is a good breeder & we thought this solution might be a good one because at least we wont have to go through the puppy stage & it could be dangerous with such a big dog leaving her alone with a puppy. My question is, has anyone else done anything similar & can anyone offer any advise when introducing two dogs etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Her Majesty Dogmad Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 A great idea to bring a similar aged dog in - have done it many times! Is the dog going to be desexed before he comes to you or is he already done? is your female desexed already or a showdog? Apart from that, always introduce dogs on neutral territory, can you have the dog on a trial period of say 2-4 weeks with a refund if it doesn't work for some reason? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 (edited) Our 1 yr old female newfoundland is a bit lonely during the day & we thought we might get a friend for her as this breed loves to have company. Pick me Pick meeeee - I love Newfies I should add that absolutely, if you are happy to skip the puppy stage, go for it! I've taken on a couple of adult Saints and successfully integrated them with my other pets. They were already well socialised and happy little munchkins. Ask the breeder if you can trial the dog first. Edited June 10, 2011 by Clyde Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsrawesome Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 i think its a great idea! :D photos are a must too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Life Of Riley Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 My Newfie is now a year old as well , we introduced a rescue dog into our home a few months ago (Wolfhound X)and within 30 seconds they were best friends We also have dogs regularly coming to stay and have never had a problem. Our Newfie just loves other dogs, I do find the smaller ones are a bit scared of her but come around really quickly as she is so gentle with them. I would also recomend an adult dog of a similar size if you will be leaving them alone together, the 2 year old Newfie sounds great, has he had his hip and elbow xrays? If the breeder is close by I would try and get a play date set up for them first just to make sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormTrooper Posted June 10, 2011 Author Share Posted June 10, 2011 thanks for all the replies. So, we are going on monday to meet him where he lives & we are bringing our dog along - i wonder if that is a good idea as it is not neutral territory? He lives with many other dogs though as his owner is a breeder so i am hoping he is well socialised. I am guessing he is not desexed as was an australian champion & i am guessing they normally breed them - but the breeder has since bought a new male dog & so the opportunity for us to buy him has some up. Our dog (i hate the word b*tch, so i'll refer to her as a dog) is not desexed, will this cause a problem???Apart from the obvious one of puppies:) I think its easier to get males done isnt it, so maybe its a good idea just to get him done. I havent had him checked for hip or other issues - do i need to do that & if so how do i tell? She gave us papers with our dog when we bought her as a puppy, so i am assuming we get papers for him. I have never bought a mature dog before so i really am a bit nervous about it but i think its the best thing for our girl. I think $2,000.00 is ok considering he is an australian champion, & he will therefore hopefully have a good tempermant (or am i wrong about assuming that?). But has anyone else any info on buying a mature dog pricewise that is. Geez, sorry for all the questions - i just dont want to make a mistake thats all - i have two little babies & i want to be reassured this big male dog will be ok with them when they eventually want to play with the dogs. Thanks for everyone's help & i will definitely post some pictures soon - of my girl that is - & if we buy the male i'll make sure i post pictures of him as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 TBH I think $2k is a lot for an adult Newfie but I guess it's just how much he is worth to you after meeting him. I wouldn't hold too much to the point that he's been titled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drumbeat Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 $2000 seems alot for a 2 year old but I have no idea of the price of Newfies. We recently adopted a 14 month ex showdog for the tiny amount of $250! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormTrooper Posted June 10, 2011 Author Share Posted June 10, 2011 $2000 seems alot for a 2 year old but I have no idea of the price of Newfies. We recently adopted a 14 month ex showdog for the tiny amount of $250! yes, i think 2k is alot also, but when we bought our newfie as a puppy she cost 2k - so i suppose that is why she is charging us this amount. I wish ours was only $250..... Its alot of money & money we need as we have another baby due in 10 weeks, but part of me thinks - well we would have paid the same amount if we bought a puppy & we dont have all the hard work involved with a puppy & iassume he is trained as he is a show dog......but the other hakf thinsk OMG 2k for a 2 yr old dog. What do others think of the price thing? Are we being silly paying that much - i have no idea how much other newfies cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 we dont have all the hard work involved with a puppy & iassume he is trained as he is a show dog... He'll be lead trained but probably won't know SIT, and might not know DROP. The dogs might not be indoor dogs so you will need to house train him - I'd look in to that. I remember bringing an adult Saint home and the size of the wee on my floors With one of my Saints I went to obedience, just to bond with her and teach her SIT, I was pregnant at the time like you. I can remember people worrying I had such a big dog and a baby on the way but they needn't have worried - never a more gentle dogs with babies. I find it odd that she's charging you the 2K you paid for a pup. He will cost a fair bit to desex too, being so big. But, if you know her dogs and trust the temperament then I would do it - can't really put a price on safety with your baby. I would definitely ask if you could trial him for a month first though. Or something along those lines anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJean Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 (edited) thanks for all the replies. So, we are going on monday to meet him where he lives & we are bringing our dog along - i wonder if that is a good idea as it is not neutral territory? He lives with many other dogs though as his owner is a breeder so i am hoping he is well socialised. I am guessing he is not desexed as was an australian champion & i am guessing they normally breed them - but the breeder has since bought a new male dog & so the opportunity for us to buy him has some up. Our dog (i hate the word b*tch, so i'll refer to her as a dog) is not desexed, will this cause a problem???Apart from the obvious one of puppies:) I think its easier to get males done isnt it, so maybe its a good idea just to get him done. I havent had him checked for hip or other issues - do i need to do that & if so how do i tell? She gave us papers with our dog when we bought her as a puppy, so i am assuming we get papers for him. I have never bought a mature dog before so i really am a bit nervous about it but i think its the best thing for our girl. I think $2,000.00 is ok considering he is an australian champion, & he will therefore hopefully have a good tempermant (or am i wrong about assuming that?). But has anyone else any info on buying a mature dog pricewise that is. Geez, sorry for all the questions - i just dont want to make a mistake thats all - i have two little babies & i want to be reassured this big male dog will be ok with them when they eventually want to play with the dogs. Thanks for everyone's help & i will definitely post some pictures soon - of my girl that is - & if we buy the male i'll make sure i post pictures of him as well. Well you made a point about the price twice now, so I guess that's your issue. Why dont you buy a mature dog who fits in with your idea of what a mature dog should be priced at? Do you want to have puppies from your female? Edited June 11, 2011 by lilli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJean Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 $2000 seems alot for a 2 year old but I have no idea of the price of Newfies. We recently adopted a 14 month ex showdog for the tiny amount of $250! yes, i think 2k is alot also, but when we bought our newfie as a puppy she cost 2k - so i suppose that is why she is charging us this amount. I wish ours was only $250..... well find a dog that will cost you $250 then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDaz Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 I totally disgree the OP has an issue with price, I dont think there is any harm in knowing you are not getting ripped off. Some people on this forum may have plenty to throw around but I know I dont. Have you thought of just getting a Rescue Dog, you would get out of it cheaper and save a life. The unkown may be the temprament which could be an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gayle. Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 I introduced a 5yo rescue Aussie into my pack earlier this year and for the most part it went pretty smoothly. My older boy and her went head to head a few times over food, but once we started feeding them separately, peace reigned. He has always been top dog and mooches from the other dogs bowls and they let him, but the new dog didn't like that and she wouldn't back down. Now we don't give him the opportunity to pinch her food. I think $2000 is a lot for an adult dog, unless the dog is going to be used at stud the champion title means nothing. And being a show dog doesn't mean he's trained to do anything except stand still. Often they aren't housetrained because they live in kennels and not as family dogs. The upside is that there's no puppy stage, he'll more than likely be very easy to bath and groom, and you'll already be able to see his adult temperament (although once again, a show career doesn't guarantee good temperament). My rescue dog came with a pedigree, and a very nice one it is too......she was never a show dog, but she is main registered and has a pretty registered name. She was housetrained, basic obedience trained, lead trained and she's a very easy girl to live with. She didn't cost me anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal House Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 To be honest, with a baby due in 10 weeks, I wouldn't take on another giant breed of dog. Especially one that is costing so much. Newfies are lovely dogs, but it means twice the food, twice the grooming/exercise, twice the vets fees. I'd wait, and look for another breed, or even Newfie rescue in 6 months or so if you still want another dog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJean Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 (edited) I totally disgree the OP has an issue with price, I dont think there is any harm in knowing you are not getting ripped off. Some people on this forum may have plenty to throw around but I know I dont. Really? What posts are you reading then. If the OP wants to know if they are getting ripped off or not why don't they just say so. In fact, why don't all buyers make a post about the puppy/dog they are buying and if the breeder should charge them that amount or not. Because the collective DOL who dont know the dog or the breeder, are the fair price yardstick, isn't it? Have you thought of just getting a Rescue Dog, you would get out of it cheaper and save a life. The unknown may be the temprament which could be an issue. At this point the OP's sights are on a young Aust CH Newfoundland male from a reputable breeder, whose lineage and judgement they trust as their first Newfoundland has worked out so well. But if you take away all the knowns the OP has the benefit of, you get back down to a rescue price, so perhaps rescue is what the OP should be looking at. Edited June 11, 2011 by lilli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 (edited) Gosh . That's a) an awful lot of money. b) IF he needs desexing/housetraining/supervising ... an awful lot of extra work c) Another VERY large dog's needs/space to consider when manouevering a new baby workload around .... d) a plunge into unknown territory... it sounds like he is kennelled with other dogs .so he may not mind where he pees- or have good eating manners ..or be good at sharing space 24/7 with humans.. before you make the drive.. ask the breeder to scan/send you his hip scores ,and results of any other tests he's had.Also ask her what experience he has had with baby humans !! I just think it's odd, that if he is a 'champion' and is only 2 and just mature- that they are offloading him ..presumably entire . You haven't asked them if he is entire or not? ( then again I know not much about the show world) and, no, HIS kennel area is not 'neutral' territory for a first meeting. That goes for human meet & greets too ;) Often a dog, surrounded by his kennelmates/familiar territory will be VERY different than when he is removed from all things familiar and safe. Oh - have you owned a male dog before? Especially an entire/ freshly desexed one around an entire bitch who may come in season soon? Even if you desex him ..and your girl comes in season shortly after you get him .. he may well try & mate with her ..or be a pest. Do you have plans to separate them during this 3 week period? ...and/or somewhere she can be kept safe from other dogs ..as he may become very protective of her as well. Edited June 11, 2011 by persephone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anna Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 With a baby due in 10 weeks, I would definitely, definitely wait. Is this your second baby or third (you mentioned you have two little babies)? I found the jump from one baby to two babies HARD work. Throwing a new dog into the mix as well would have done me in! $2000 is always handy to have with a new baby as well. I'd wait at least 12 months if I was in your position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gayle. Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 Just re-reading the opening post, she says he's "won a couple of championships", which doesn't mean he's titled, he's probably just won a couple of challenges. I could say the same about my retired show girl.....she won a couple of "championships" too.....however, she never beat another dog (they were 6 point challenges). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJean Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 Just re-reading the opening post, she says he's "won a couple of championships", which doesn't mean he's titled, he's probably just won a couple of challenges. I could say the same about my retired show girl.....she won a couple of "championships" too.....however, she never beat another dog (they were 6 point challenges). I am guessing he is not desexed as was an australian champion & i am guessing they normally breed them - but the breeder has since bought a new male dog & so the opportunity for us to buy him has some up. Our dog (i hate the word b*tch, so i'll refer to her as a dog) is not desexed, will this cause a problem???Apart from the obvious one of puppies:) I think its easier to get males done isnt it, so maybe its a good idea just to get him done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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