JB1824 Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Hey everyone, I recently was sent a diet sheet from my breeder (we're expecting the puppy in November) and just wanted to check that it's all okay, because I really have no idea about their requirements and what the nutrition of foods are. The breeder's dogs all seem very healthy though. Breakfast: The night before soak 75 grams of Barley & Oat Flakes (2 parts Barley Flakes to one part Oat Flakes) and 25grams Supercoat Puppy. In the morning mix in a Weetbix, a teaspoon of Almond Meal (or powdered almonds), 1/2 teaspoon ground Anise, one teaspoon Slippery Elm Bark powder, one teaspoon of Honey, one teaspoon Wheat Germ and one teaspoon of Desiccated Coconut, pour a little hot (not boiling) water over the Weetbix to soften then add milk, mix and serve. Warm Milk (120 ml) Dinner: 250 grams of RAW Meat (in 6 – 8 large pieces) sprinkle with one teaspoon powdered Kelp (seaweed), one dessert spoon Bran, heaped teaspoon Wheat Germ, 2 heaped teaspoons vitamised mixed herbs (mainly parsley and mint with garlic, carrot and any other green leafy herbs, spinach etc) a good sprinkle of Cayenne Pepper, level teaspoon of finely ground raw egg shell, 1 teaspoon cold pressed olive oil and one 500mg Vitamin C tablet (crushed), half a teaspoon celery seeds, teaspoon powdered stinging nettle. Mix all together, with a little bit of water, to coat the meat. 1 Bone (lamb or beef neck cut down the middle and across, chicken wings or rib bones rubbed with oil (or water) and rolled in bran. Supper: Mix the soaked Dry food with Milk (Prepare the milk as for Breakfast) a teaspoon of Slippery Elm Bark, a teaspoon of Desiccated Coconut, a teaspoon of Wheat Germ and a teaspoon of Honey. In a short while the Dry Dog Food will not need to be soaked. Chopped dried fruits (usually added to the cereal meal), vegetables finely chopped, raw egg (no more than 2 per week) occasionally add some creamed corn and sardines in oil, these are good additives for your puppy. The amounts would change depending on what the puppy (Labrador Retriever) needs. Do I need to include Weetbix in the diet? I've been reading a couple of threads/posts here that have said that it's just a 'filler', so is it even necessary to add? I've also read some posts here about not needing to moisten the puppy's food. Should I just follow the breeder's directions and just gradually stop soaking it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bedazzledx2 Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Not a diet I would be comfortable feeding.... If you want to feed raw I would suggest starting out with pre-prepared BARF patties from the vet or pet shop. That way at least you know it is somewhat 'balanced'. The only additive I would use would be a top quality biscuit. I used large dog Advance as I knew my boy would grow large and rapidly so to offset this I only used the puppy for a few months and then gradually switched over to raw. (His breeder had only fed biscuits) A couple of things stand out in this diet that makes me Weetbix....grains and sugar hmmmm. This diet does seem a bit overloaded in grains. I see no offal there either. Almond meal?!!!???? Cayenne pepper???? Slippery Elm is very usefull for digestive upsets for the short term over use can cause lots of problems. Lots of honey in there too....Maluka honey is useful occasionally....not something I would be feeding every day. Chopped dried fruits...ok but make absolutely sure there are no currents or raisins in there. Garlic is a member of the onion family and these days is not recommended for dogs. Cows milk is great for baby cows.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mim Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 x2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesn184 Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Well from what I've heard Weatbix is just a filler, if you include milk in your puppys diet make sure its lactose free otherwise your puppy will get the runs? I started with supercoat with my puppy and now I'm avoiding it like the plague. That diet seems a little overboard.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nekhbet Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 what in gods name is that why would you feed so much slippery elm ... and cayenne? Get a good premium dry food like Royal Canin Labrador Junior or Maxi Junior and some raw meaty bones, keep the dog lean and dont over exercise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussielover Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Very unusual, and not something I would personally use for a large breed puppy. Aside form the fact it doesn't appear to be nutritionally balanced; Does the breeder actually expect people to have the time and inclination to do all this??? It sounds like more effort than making a meal for myself! with a large breed pup like a labrador, I would feed a good quality premium kibble as it is just too much of a risk to play around with a homemade meal (especially one as weird as that!) when they are developing. You can supplement with things like raw egg, yoghurt, sardines and raw meaty bones if you wish. I found lamb flaps and lamb shanks to be excellent with a lab puppy. Some people also like chicken wings for a young puppy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Puppies do not need a lot of grains- they do not need sugar .. or coconut , or dried fruits ..... you may need to do it for a week or two though..while you gradually introduce your chosen food - just to avoid tummy upsets. BTW a lab puppy does not need soaked kibble .. they are quite capable of crunching dry food and bones at that age Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nekhbet Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 I just dont understand all that fiddle faddle ... then to be feeding something so rubbish like supercoat puppy and wheet bix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WreckitWhippet Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Breakfast: The night before soak 75 grams of Barley & Oat Flakes (2 parts Barley Flakes to one part Oat Flakes) and 25grams Supercoat Puppy. In the morning mix in a Weetbix, a teaspoon of Almond Meal (or powdered almonds), 1/2 teaspoon ground Anise, one teaspoon Slippery Elm Bark powder, one teaspoon of Honey, one teaspoon Wheat Germ and one teaspoon of Desiccated Coconut, pour a little hot (not boiling) water over the Weetbix to soften then add milk, mix and serve. Warm Milk (120 ml) Dinner: 250 grams of RAW Meat (in 6 – 8 large pieces) sprinkle with one teaspoon powdered Kelp (seaweed), one dessert spoon Bran, heaped teaspoon Wheat Germ, 2 heaped teaspoons vitamised mixed herbs (mainly parsley and mint with garlic, carrot and any other green leafy herbs, spinach etc) a good sprinkle of Cayenne Pepper, level teaspoon of finely ground raw egg shell, 1 teaspoon cold pressed olive oil and one 500mg Vitamin C tablet (crushed), half a teaspoon celery seeds, teaspoon powdered stinging nettle. Mix all together, with a little bit of water, to coat the meat. 1 Bone (lamb or beef neck cut down the middle and across, chicken wings or rib bones rubbed with oil (or water) and rolled in bran. Supper: Mix the soaked Dry food with Milk (Prepare the milk as for Breakfast) a teaspoon of Slippery Elm Bark, a teaspoon of Desiccated Coconut, a teaspoon of Wheat Germ and a teaspoon of Honey. In a short while the Dry Dog Food will not need to be soaked. Chopped dried fruits (usually added to the cereal meal), vegetables finely chopped, raw egg (no more than 2 per week) occasionally add some creamed corn and sardines in oil, these are good additives for your puppy. The amounts would change depending on what the puppy (Labrador Retriever) needs. Do I need to include Weetbix in the diet? I've been reading a couple of threads/posts here that have said that it's just a 'filler', so is it even necessary to add? I've also read some posts here about not needing to moisten the puppy's food. Should I just follow the breeder's directions and just gradually stop soaking it? Hows about a quality dry puppy food, such as Proplan, Advance, Artemis, Eagle Pack, Royal Canin or Canidea, there's plenty to choose from that are nutritionally balanced and you don't need to add anything. Feed your meat on the bone ( consumable bone ) such as lamb necks, roo tails, chicken wings, chicken neck, carcass, rabbit, lamb flap, etc If you want to add extra's and provide some variety, then chuck the pup a whole agg and give it a game at the same time, canned sardines or mackeral, a spoon of natural yogurt, a bit of grated cheese or left over vegies every now and then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 If the breeder uses that prior to puppies going home .. they'd be very busy doing all that for a couple of litters, regardless of how well intentioned it is !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karly101 Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 That is the bizarre-est diet I've read recently hahaa. So much honey? Almond meal? Creamed corn?? Coconut and to top it off Supercoat! 2nd what ReadySetGo suggests - pick a premium dry food and add good raw meaty bones, the occasional oily fish, egg, yoghurt, leftovers veg/pasta/meat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wuffles Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 1 Bone (lamb or beef neck cut down the middle and across, chicken wings or rib bones rubbed with oil (or water) and rolled in bran. It is just me, or does this in particular sound completely random? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussielover Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 1 Bone (lamb or beef neck cut down the middle and across, chicken wings or rib bones rubbed with oil (or water) and rolled in bran. It is just me, or does this in particular sound completely random? It sounds like some kind of gourmet meal... like a schnitzel or something :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussielover Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Re the chopped dry fruits- make sure that you don't add sultanas or buy a mix that contains sultanas as they can be toxic and cause kidney failure. (Not that the puppy needs dried fruits... ;) ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poodlefan Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Very complicated and I struggle to understand the science behind some of the ingredients. Another vote here for a quality kibble supplemented with raw meaty bones OR do your own research and feed a properly balanced raw diet. Feeding a puppy shouldn't be like an episode of Masterchef! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WreckitWhippet Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 (edited) Chopped and dried fruit are full of sugar... More alarming than the sugar content would be the Sulphur Dioxide Unless you find naturally dried fruit with no sulphur dioxide, it's not something I'd feed a dog. If you want to give your dog a little fruit, give him the end off your banana, or a slice of apple , whenever you have some. Dogs don't need fruit and it's really just a treat Edited September 14, 2011 by ReadySetGo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSoSwift Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 hmmmmmmm I would not feed that, apart from the fact it is waayyy too complicated it is not a balanced diet. I would feed what they have been feeding to a point, but would not worry about weetbix or dried fruit etc, And I definately would not feed Supercoat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mason_Gibbs Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 I would be afraid, is this a registered breeder you are buying from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mason_Gibbs Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 This is what my lab pup is getting atm. He is 9,5 weeks old. Brekky is a cup ROyal Canin lab junior - lunch is 250g of meat and a bone - dinner is another cup of biscuits with egg, sardine, yoghurt etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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