mumtoshelley Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Hi everyone I went to another butcher today and got 2 bags of there pet mince to try, I'm not sure it looks good but it looks to be fatty. 1 bag is chicken mince at $2 a kg and the other bag is cow cheek also known as ox cheek at $3:50 a kg. I also took a picture of the $2 a kg chicken mince next to a $1 a kg chicken mince from a different butcher. Please let me know what you think. If not I plan on going back to feeding human grade mince. The ox cheek mince Chicken mince other mince from a different butcher the $1 a kg bag The $2 a kg bag and the $1 a kg bag Out of the $2 a kg bag and the $1 a kg bag which one looks better? I know pictures can be difficult. The $1 a kg bag is a brownish colour where the $2 bag is fairly pink in colour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florise Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Yep, that's pet mince. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mumtoshelley Posted January 27, 2012 Author Share Posted January 27, 2012 Yep, that's pet mince. LOL I know that I just want people opinions on if it looks good to feed to the dogs. Like does it look to fatty? would you feed it or choose a healthier mince? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben and Jerry Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 With your dogs past history, wouldn't you be beter off feeding a leaner meat or human quality mince? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crisovar Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 I would happily feed the fattier mince to my dogs, if I was happy with the source and the content, my dogs however are not obese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flame ryder Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 yes the cheaper one is alot darker. I'd ask the butcher what they actually put in their minces. Get a feel for the butcher...is he dog savvy? Does he have his own dogs? Does he look shifty like he's putting any old crap in his pet mince to make money? The mince on the right looks exactly the same as what I buy and feed all my dogs and cats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwp4me Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 I wouldn't touch anything that is too cheap, especially fatty chicken mince, because once a dog has pancreatitis, he might not survive. I would buy roo mince from the pet shop, or the cheapest Aldi mince (human grade). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karly101 Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Why are you even feeding mince? If they have weight issues you are just wasting your money and its not even beneficial for them. You can see all the chunks of fat and there's no effort required to chew it. Buy some raw meaty bones at least you can see whats in it, get some with the least fat content and its fresher than what the butcher chucks in the mincer for pets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mumtoshelley Posted January 27, 2012 Author Share Posted January 27, 2012 I would but my mum believes too much bones isn't good for them. My guys get feed in the morning then again at night. In the morning I like to give them a raw meal then at night I give them premium kibble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben and Jerry Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 I would but my mum believes too much bones isn't good for them. But aren't they your dogs? So shouldn't the decision for more bones be your choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lavendergirl Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 I wouldn't feed any of those - they all look too fatty. I would stick to human grade - the "heart smart" or lower fat types such as kangaroo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
german_shep_fan Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Perhaps also you could try feeding some munched up chicken frames? They might be less fatty then the mince, also chicken necks might be ok too, just cut off any excess fat :) Either that or as others have said some human grade mince :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlc Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 It certainly looks fatty. Personaly I wouldn't feed it to my lot as they don't need extra fat. I used to feed raw and a cheaper kibble and any meat I used was always human grade for the dogs but also for my piece of mind so I knew exactly what they were getting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowgirl Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 I'm a bit confused hun, I thought you weren't going back to pet mince because your dogs were putting on too much weight from it. The mince in your pictures sure look pretty fatty... but that tends to be what you get with pet mince. Are the dogs still on the high fat kibble or did you find something lighter? You had some good input and suggestions in your other thread .. http://www.dolforums.com.au/topic/232823-have-some-questions/page__p__5685306__fromsearch__1#entry5685306... might be worth giving it another quick read. From what you've written previously, I don't think pet mince is the way to go for your crew, Missy might be okay, but the others didn't do well on it and gained too much weight. I know the price seems good, but in the long run it doesn't seem the best choice for your dogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Everythings Shiny Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 I don't feed mine mince due to my oldest girl gets enormous on it. I'd look at what some of the other guys have suggested :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mason_Gibbs Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Roo and goat are good its what i feed my older boy. Pup gets minced chicken frames plus roo and goat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandra777 Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Depends a lot on the dog. None of mine have issues with fatty meat but some dogs have pancrease (sp!) issues which means they must have lean. If this was the case chicken carcases mince wouldn't be the best bet because most of the time it's made from the carcases with the fat left on. My understanding is that dogs don't have the same issues with saturated animal fat that humans have. Fat from a healthy animal is an excellant source of nutrients for a carnivore. Weight control is a matter of reducing the food intake - feed the dog less food! If you need to reduce a dogs weight feed it's food in the "whole-est" form possible, lumps of meat rather than minced for example, to make it work for it's food and the longer it takes to eat it the more it will think it's had to eat ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crisovar Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 I wouldn't feed any of those - they all look too fatty. I would stick to human grade - the "heart smart" or lower fat types such as kangaroo. Why? Unless you have an obese dog or a dog with pancreatic issues they need fat in their diet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogsAndTheMob Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Does anybody have a copy of Peidje Vidler's border collie book? I can't find my copy , but I think it has a diet recipe for dogs, with meat, vegetables etc set in gelatin. It might be possible to feed the mince in small quantities by adapting this recipe. Feeding mince in a slurry with water when reducing portion sizes also helps the dog to feel satiated at the end of the meal. I must admit, however, that I tend to buy meat/chicken portions or meaty bones rather than mince, because I have found that some butchers dispose of old meat by selling it as mince, using preservatives to make it look and smell fresher. (I had a dog with preservative sensitivity, and I found it almost impossible to get preservative-free pet mince.) I believe it is illegal (at least in NSW) to put preservatives in mince for human consumption, but it does still happen, as evidenced by packages of mince that are nicely pink on the outside but brown inside. I think beef shin bones (but never lamb or mutton shin bones!) are good value for dogs... lots of chewing with relatively few calories. However, keep them on a hard surface when they are chewing these bones, as grit on the bones can wear their teeth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lavendergirl Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 I wouldn't feed any of those - they all look too fatty. I would stick to human grade - the "heart smart" or lower fat types such as kangaroo. Why? Unless you have an obese dog or a dog with pancreatic issues they need fat in their diet. I am aware of that - I thought the OP did have an obese dog? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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